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View Poll Results: Who would win between the USA and the rest of the world
The USA 23 15.23%
The rest of the world 53 35.10%
Stalemate 7 4.64%
Mutually Assured Destruction 68 45.03%
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Old 11-19-2006
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Re: USA vs the world, who would win

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Seeing as how you are one of only 3 or 4 countries that have defeated a global superpower yes please lets here your ideas

Also remember we have our own version. It may not be a stylish as yours, but it has a certain lethality to it

Jep, a prime example of the Bowie knife. Some might say this one is the U.S. traditional knife.
Didn't the man fall in the Alamo?
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Old 11-19-2006
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Jep, a prime example of the Bowie knife. Some might say this one is the U.S. traditional knife.
Didn't the man fall in the Alamo?
Yep, al0ong with quite a few other famous Americans. I was just donw in San Antonio over the summer and went to the Alamo. Some people we suprised at how small it was, until they realized the city of San Antonio occupies most of the space where the original Alamo stood. What amazed me was how many non Americans fought on the side of the Texans in that battle. I think as I looked at the plaques of who died at the battle I saw almost every European nation listed, some repeatedly.
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Old 11-19-2006
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Re: USA vs the world, who would win

Okay, all in good fun then Gort.

I'm tryin to imagine a situation where US would attack Europe and as a part of the invasion they would invade Finland.. somehow I think they would have the problem of running out of targets. Though I would be happy that US would have to go through Sweden before hitting us =) After that we could just surrender and say that all our objectives in the war have been achieved =)

First of all in a conflict with US we would lose a big chunk of our export markets, and that would alone cause a recession, US would have to attack fast before we would fall into the hands of IMF. sorry.. this is too funny.. and I'm too tired to continue right now..
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Yep, al0ong with quite a few other famous Americans. I was just donw in San Antonio over the summer and went to the Alamo. Some people we suprised at how small it was, until they realized the city of San Antonio occupies most of the space where the original Alamo stood. What amazed me was how many non Americans fought on the side of the Texans in that battle. I think as I looked at the plaques of who died at the battle I saw almost every European nation listed, some repeatedly.
Intresting. Mecenaries, perhaeps? For Bowie himself was sometimes on the other side of `legalŽ.
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Intresting. Mecenaries, perhaeps? For Bowie himself was sometimes on the other side of `legalŽ.
I don't think they were mercenaries. They knew this was comming and the call for volunteers went out as I understand it. I don't think Texas had any money to pay mercenaries at the time, and it wasn't the US government paying the freight. Davy Crocket was one of the defenders. If you want more information here it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo
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Thank you.
As you take pride on your guns, we feel the same about our Puukko-knives.
You can quite easily tell number of things about induviduals knife.
More decorations, bronze and silver in the handles and sheats, the more wealthy household.

If intrested, this sums up information quite nicely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puukko

My puukko being rather plain:http://www.lahjamaailma.fi/WebRoot/L...kipuukko_m.jpg
I'm gonna search for a place to order one or two.....I have knives too, I have a small show case with some in.
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Old 11-19-2006
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No, LOL. He said something like "We will prevail."

The Talibans and Saddam are not in power anymore, but there is still war in both countries and the USA are far from "prevailing".

To have the biggest army in the world is not enough when what you are facing is guerilla war, inner resistance and civil strife.
The ease in which Iraq can be "civilized" is inversely proportional to the level of morality of the conquerers. The biggest army in the world could end the terrorism tomorrow if it was willing to practice barbarism on the terrorists. The Romans proved the effectiveness of that.
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Beautiful craftsmanship. Thanks for the links.
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Edit: Oh, and if we feel that any normal citizen has no need for gun, then our laws fit quite nicely. Hunters and woodsmen, marksmen, soldiers and such do have a reson for owning a gun, thus they havee it easily.
I see. So, you have the freedom to own a gun as long as the majority of people agree with your reason for doing so.
That doesn't exactly sound like personal freedom to me. It sounds like collectivist thinking.
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I'm gonna search for a place to order one or two.....I have knives too, I have a small show case with some in.
The local newspaper ran a story about some muggers
who were fucked up enough to rob people in their own
parking lots. I don't have a gun. I do have a hell of a
kitcken knife I have been keeping bedside for a while now.

It is completely and totally dark when I go to bed.

A knife outa be enough if somebody breaks in
since I know the place better.

So far, though, I have not considered taking the knife with me
when I leave the house. In broad daylight a knife is less useful.

I still don't have any plans to get a gun.
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Okay, all in good fun then Gort.

I'm tryin to imagine a situation where US would attack Europe and as a part of the invasion they would invade Finland.. somehow I think they would have the problem of running out of targets. Though I would be happy that US would have to go through Sweden before hitting us =) After that we could just surrender and say that all our objectives in the war have been achieved =)

First of all in a conflict with US we would lose a big chunk of our export markets, and that would alone cause a recession, US would have to attack fast before we would fall into the hands of IMF. sorry.. this is too funny.. and I'm too tired to continue right now..
I like your sense of humor. In no way should this thread ever be considered serious. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to take their meds and see their shrink. In spite of what you may hear, the US certainly isn't a warmongering Imperialist nation. We do, however, believe in peace through strength. I can guarantee you that we wouldn't start WWIII, but we damn well might end it.
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Re: USA vs the world, who would win

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The local newspaper ran a story about some muggers
who were fucked up enough to rob people in their own
parking lots. I don't have a gun. I do have a hell of a
kitcken knife I have been keeping bedside for a while now.

It is completely and totally dark when I go to bed.

A knife outa be enough if somebody breaks in
since I know the place better.

So far, though, I have not considered taking the knife with me
when I leave the house. In broad daylight a knife is less useful.

I still don't have any plans to get a gun.
Never underestimate the use of a knife, even in daylight. If you are being mugged, a knife is just as deadly if not more so than a gun.....That is, if you obtain training on proper defensive techniques.....When I'm not carrying a gun, I have my knife with me........
Gun or knife, they both need practice and training.
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I like your sense of humor. In no way should this thread ever be considered serious. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to take their meds and see their shrink. In spite of what you may hear, the US certainly isn't a warmongering Imperialist nation. We do, however, believe in peace through strength. I can guarantee you that we wouldn't start WWIII, but we damn well might end it.
agreed......No one should take this thread serious.
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Intresting. Mecenaries, perhaeps? For Bowie himself was sometimes on the other side of `legalŽ.
Many of our "Wild West" heroes walked on both sides of the legal fence.
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Okay, all in good fun then Gort.

I'm tryin to imagine a situation where US would attack Europe and as a part of the invasion they would invade Finland.. somehow I think they would have the problem of running out of targets. Though I would be happy that US would have to go through Sweden before hitting us =) After that we could just surrender and say that all our objectives in the war have been achieved =)

First of all in a conflict with US we would lose a big chunk of our export markets, and that would alone cause a recession, US would have to attack fast before we would fall into the hands of IMF. sorry.. this is too funny.. and I'm too tired to continue right now..
Oh but see that is all part of the master plan. Ok this is super secret, but we actually envy you for the gorgeous women. Not that we don't have our own, but lets be honest here a nation, especially a super power like us, can never have enough georgeous women. Secondly since you brought to our attention that nice knife, we can't simply allow you to stay independant and compete with our Bowie knife. And of course as a side thought we will get the resources in the North Sea after we take Norway ,and what natural resources was it you and Sweden had again?

Ah yes and once we have captured the scandinavian countried, not entirely sure if that will include Denmark or not, it seems that might be more trouble than it is worth, besides we can always make a day trip of it on our way to Germany, we will turn toward Russia. See depending on whether Bush and Putin have made up by then we have two plans. If they have made up we simply reenact the Moletov Ribbentrop agreement of 1939 and give 1/3 of poland to Russia and we take two thirds. Of course 2 years later we will go to war with Russia and take it all, but SHHHHH don't tell oleg ok? And since we are smarter than the Germans were we will attack just as spring is starting so it can be all over by the time winter hits again. Of course that was our double super secret plan. You know the whole global warming thing? Guess what NO RUSSIAN WINTER TO CONTEND WITH!!!!! Didn't see that one comming did you.

Of course once we have Russia and Poland we will simply recreate the 1939 invasion of Poland in reverse. By the time we get to France they will have had time to call a UNSC meeting in which I am positive they will veto our invasion of France. Now, and here is the all important part. If Hillary is President we will abide by the French veto and not invade. If George has decalared himself king of America, Canada, and all that he can see, byt then the French can veto till they turn blue and we will still invade.

(Pretty neat plan so far huh! But wait the best part is still to come.) See once we take all of Europe, We figure England will join us as soon as George declares himself Emporer of all he percieves, you know how the British love royalty, We can turn our attention to the far east because really how much difference will Africa make anyway. To be quite honest it, much like Denmark, seems to be more trouble than it is worth. I know I am by passing the middle east here, but bear with me it is all part of the grand plan.

So we have now captured all of Europe, a lot of it made possible becuase of our initial move into scandinavia, which is how we will rename your countries because it is easier for us to remember. The rest of Europe will simple become known as Euros, but since we don't really think of you guys as Euros anyway Scandis seems more apropo don't you think? OK now where were we? Oh yes we were heading to the far east. Well first of all we will make like we are going after those pesky Japanese, besides since Toyota is about to overtake GM as the worlds largest auto manufacturer we have to put them in their place anyway. But wait that was just a feint. Instead we will make a left turn followed by a sharp right turn when we get to the soutern most island and haed straight for China. Since they are all trying to make money, at least that is what Luke tells me, and getting ready for the olympics anyway we should be able to take them by suprise. Once we have secured China, I know there is the little issue of a peske billion man army, but really do you think they are any competition for outr bowie knife equipped troops, especially after we add that very cool Finnish knife to the equipment? I don't think the Chinese have anything like you knife let alone the bowie knife. I suspect they will see how much better prepared we are and simply give up. Then we can go back to prevent Toyota from overtaking GM as the worlds largest car company. After we nuke North Korea, lets face it we want to anyway, South Korea will fall into line. Vietnam. Hmmm now here is a tough one. I think we will prbably leave them alone. God knows we tried to take them once already and failed certainly do not want a repeat. Australia? Well lets face it they are simply British with funny accents.

OK now I said we had a plan for the middle east. Once we have taken the rest of the world, minus Vietnam, the middle east will have no choice but to join us. After all Vietnam can only use so much oil.

Pretty cool plan huh? And all made possibel because we were smart enough to invade the Scandis first. I think it is doable, but only if we keep that mean Hillary from agree ing not to invade France after they veto it in the UNSC.
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Never underestimate the use of a knife, even in daylight. If you are being mugged, a knife is just as deadly if not more so than a gun.....That is, if you obtain training on proper defensive techniques.....When I'm not carrying a gun, I have my knife with me........
Gun or knife, they both need practice and training.
Nah, I can't be bothered to take a weapon
when I leave the house. I'll just have to think
about what I might be able to do with my mind
and my bare hands, if I can think of anything.

Chances are I should be safe around where I live.
It's been mostly clean, and where it aint been
I dont know of too much loss.
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