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View Poll Results: How you think we should attack IRAN?
Air Force air assult 4 13.33%
Air Force and Navy Missle Strikes 17 56.67%
Navy Missle Strikes 0 0%
All out war and hell with ground forces 9 30.00%
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Old 02-03-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

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I know what im talking about. You dont remember those days of 1938.Thats when it all started.It started with Diplomacy.And Hitler loved Diplomacy and he used it to set up WWII.Same thing with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,He knows all the UN Talk will do nothing.He knows the US hands are tied because of the UN. And Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is setting this up to wipe isreal off the map.
Yes, well. Should you choose to start an argument with me conserning history, I'd advice you to grab a few books from the library and get google ready. I am a history student. Cultural history, common history and history of warfare are the things I really enjoy to study.
So, which part of the 1938 events would you like to talk about?
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Old 02-03-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

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Yes, well. Should you choose to start an argument with me conserning history, I'd advice you to grab a few books from the library and get google ready. I am a history student. Cultural history, common history and history of warfare are the things I really enjoy to study.
So, which part of the 1938 events would you like to talk about?
The part that the british tried to negotiate for peace back in 1938 and hitler went home and laughed afterwards and then later invasion of france begun. The point is the west didnt take hitler seriously and then war got started and alot of people died between 1938-1945.Samething with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Europe isnt taken this guy seriously and one day the unthinkable will happen and then who we blame? the UN?
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Old 02-03-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

I agree that Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but ...

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Iran is actually a democracy - Pakistan is not.
Iran is a democracy?? How so?



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Pakistan and India have been on the verge of war for many, many years now, and are more unstable than Iran.
I'm not sure about Pakistan, but India's far more stable in this regard.
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Old 02-22-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

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I think IRAN needs to get attacked because of their nuclear weapons program.IRAN SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS! EVER!! So we should bomb the hell outta them with Missle Air Strikes.Sanctions dont hurt IRAN a bit and they dont care what kind of sanctions you put on them.So the only thing to do now is WAR!!!!
if you can figure out a way to secure the persian gulf and the countries of the middle east from retaliation from iran, and ensure that 100% of iran's nuclear programs are destroyed, all without putting more troops on the ground, please share it with us.

'Missile Air Strikes' aren't going to affect hardened bunkers at all. please stop crying for more war, especially when you aren't going to be a part it.
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Old 02-22-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

Word.

Hope you're keeping safe out there. Even those of us who disagree with the war don't want ANY harm to come to you guys.
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Old 02-23-2007
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The part that the british tried to negotiate for peace back in 1938 and hitler went home and laughed afterwards and then later invasion of france begun.
Western allies did not want war, but Hitlers goal was war, he had lifted the battered Germany on loan, he desperatly needed war, BUt he also needed time to build up and develope more weapons and equipment. But West was not as big of a problem than East, the Soviet Union, largest nation in the World.
Soviets also saw war in the horizon and they too needed time to build up for it, thus Hitler and Stalin signed pack not to assault one another, and while they were at it, they split up Europe. Stalin got nations in the East, to make them as a buffer-zone against Germany, and Hitler got rest of the Europe.

Of course both intended to assault as soon as other matters were settled, so this packt was a solution to buy more time.

Both nations launched invasions upon their neighbours, and Both Britain and France realized the possibility of another world war. Neither was ready for it, and both feared similar war than WW1, so they tried to negotiate, peace at the expence of smaller nations. Hitler played along, he needed the time.

Stalin kept his end of the bargain and took one nation at a time in the Eastern Europe, but Winter War against Finland was a resounding humiliation for the Soviets. (russians still see this as a minor skirmish and point at Soviet-era information of the war) The mighty Red army failed to conquer small nation and Hitler saw this as a sign of the true weakness of the Red Army.
Western Alliance was reluctant to help, in the fear of full world war, and Germany acted according to the packt and allowed Soviet aggression.

If I recall correctly, Hitler stalled the invasion againt France for 30+ times. When it finally happened, it was a close call. Defeat of the France was due to the poor co-operation between military-branches and downright backstabbing of other field of military. In addition the strategy was outdated.
Britain expedition force was also thrown back, and was forced off in Dunkirk.

(Propaganda has shaped general view of this event, but it was indeed utter defeat. All military hardware was lost and British sometimes used Bayonets to keep other nations soldiers away from the ships and safety. Also, vast majority of troops were in fact evacuated in the docks by destroyers, the small boat-armada did really little to help.)

French rearGuard bought three days and eventually all British and large number of other nationalities were evacuated from the Beaches.

Britoins continued by shooting at and sinking French naval assets in port. Truly admirable and nobel alliance..

Now Hitler was free to use troops against Soviet Union. Battle of Britain was not so glorious and important as it might seem.

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The point is the west didnt take hitler seriously and then war got started and alot of people died between 1938-1945.Samething with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Europe isnt taken this guy seriously and one day the unthinkable will happen and then who we blame? the UN?
One cannot compare Iran and Germany during that time in any way. THere are little to none similar.
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Old 02-23-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

Funny, I've never seen any SteveOx Polls where there are a full range of options.

None of the above would be my vote.
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Old 03-23-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

I like war, but I think we should better wait for sanctions to produce their effects. And above all for the rising opposition against Ahmadinejad to kick him out. His opponents are stronger every months, as a growing number of Iranian are realising their nuclear capability build-up that no one could deny) only worsen Iran’s economic crisis.
We still have at least 2 years until Iran become a nuclear power. If in the coming 6 or 12 months Ahmadin… is still in power, then Iran nuclear capability should be destroyed.
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Old 03-28-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

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I think we should use all out airstrikes with Air Force and Navy. If IRAN strikes isreal Then we call the Nuclear Silo in Kansus to send missles to Tehran.
What's the point of that? I mean, a nuke is a big thing to call down on people. I say we just take a pre-emptive action against them. One that DOESN'T lead to a war (like Iraq). Just do what Israel did when Iran tried to get nukes more than a decade ago: bomb the nuclear facilities.
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

iraq not iran. If attack on Israel (with regard to the small size of this country) is too devastating, Israel itself will launch a nuke. On teheran.
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Old 03-30-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

LOL, Kansus.
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Old 03-30-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

Send Ahmadinejad quail hunting with Dick Cheney.
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Old 03-30-2007
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Iran, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, actually has a functioning military.
Yes, indeedy. For instance, their Navy is downright awe-inspiring:

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Old 04-13-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

Nuke them to glass, strap fatback to our feet and skate across their country.
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Old 04-16-2007
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Re: How you think we should attack IRAN?

Answer to OP"WITHOUT WEAPONS"
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