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Old 09-05-2008
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Obama such a great leader for change.....

Yup the only change he has created in Chicago is for the worst! A community leader who has failed his community. If Obama cannot control the violence in his own backyard how will he handle controlling the whole nation?

More people were killed in Chicago than fighting a war in Iraq.

Maybe Obama needs to be impeached for his incompetence.

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125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer
Total Is About Double The U.S. Troop Death Toll In Iraq
CHICAGO (CBS) ¯ An estimated 125 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

In May, cbs2chicago.com began tracking city shootings and posting them on Google maps. Information compiled from our reporters, wire service reports and the Chicago Police Major Incidents log indicated that 125 people were shot and killed throughout the city between the start of Memorial Day weekend on May 26, and the end of Labor Day on Sept. 1.

According to the Defense Department, 65 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq. About the same number were killed in Afghanistan over that same period.
In the same time period, an estimated 247 people were shot and wounded in the city.
Police department spokeswoman Monique Bond disputed the numbers, saying in an e-mail that sometimes shootings are re-classified as accidental. She said the CBS 2 analysis did not match official department statistics, but she did not provide details. CBS 2 has asked for that information.

"The department officially releases crime statistics on a monthly basis to ensure the proper investigations are thoroughly conducted to determine manner and motive which also may result in reclassifications, '' Bond said.

Violent crime reports available on the department's website do not break down shootings by month. However, the latest report shows that the murder in the city is up 18 percent from last year. From January-July, the department reports 291 people were murdered, compared with 246 for the same period in 2007.

Bond said gang-related violence presents the most serious danger to Chicago residents.

"Gang and gun violence continue to be the dominating threat on our streets," Bond said in an e-mail. "Up to 60 percent of the shootings are gang related. More than 90 percent of the offenders have criminal histories and up to 80 percent of the victims have criminal histories."

For total shootings, the South Side's Englewood District, which includes the Englewood and West Englewood neighborhoods on the city's South Side, fared the worst over the summer. A total of 11 people were shot dead there, and 46 were shot and wounded.

The highest homicide totals came in the Grand Crossing District, which includes the South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor and Grand Crossing neighborhoods on the South Side, 13 people were killed and 24 were injured.

Also hit severely by gun violence over the summer was the Harrison District on the city's West Side, where 11 people were shot dead and 25 were shot and wounded. In the Southwest Side's Chicago Lawn District, 12 people were shot and killed and 15 were shot and wounded. In the Ogden District – which includes the Near Southwest Side's Lawndale and Little Village neighborhoods – nine people were killed and eight were injured.

The South Chicago District on the Southeast Side saw nine people killed and 18 injured, almost all concentrated in the South Chicago and Avalon Park neighborhoods at the north end of the district.

The Far South Side's Calumet District – including the Roseland, Fernwood and Pullman neighborhoods – saw nine killed and 23 injured.
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Re: Obama such a great leader for change.....

For the sake of humanity I think Chicago needs BHO more than the country...

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Re: Obama such a great leader for change.....

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For the sake of humanity I think Chicago needs BHO more than the country...

Yo Hill ! Back to work !
Obama cannot even fix his own state yet he wants to screw up the rest of the country.
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Re: Obama such a great leader for change.....

Is or was Obama ever the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois?
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Is or was Obama ever the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois?
So, let me understand. You are saying he doesn't have a record of accomplishment because he doesn't have a record of ever having responsibility. Is that about it?
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So, let me understand. You are saying he doesn't have a record of accomplishment because he doesn't have a record of ever having responsibility. Is that about it?
Nope. I'm just pointing out that your argument is bogus.
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Nope. I'm just pointing out that your argument is bogus.
Actually, you made the OP's point as well as he did.
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Is or was Obama ever the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois?
Or anything else, for that matter?

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Is or was Obama ever the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois?
no he wasn’t but I’d say his record on "crime” and the legislation he helped fight or enact are relevant, such as his lonely ( only 2 other people agreed with him) to attempt to strip out a provision in a crime bill that had gang members on probation had to stay away from other gang elements while on probation....I'd say thats not quite logical, at least to me.
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Or anything else, for that matter?

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Nope, he's just a senator-his only executive work is in Charity. Oddly enough John McCains only executive work is...actually, he dosn't have any. The only person in this campagn with executive experience is Palin.
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Nope, he's just a senator-his only executive work is in Charity. Oddly enough John McCains only executive work is...actually, he dosn't have any. The only person in this campagn with executive experience is Palin.
That's what has surprised me so much about this election. We only have two senators from whom to chose (if we vote for one of the two parties, that is). And, Senators haven't fared well in past elections against those who were governors (not since 1960, that is).
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That's what has surprised me so much about this election. We only have two senators from whom to chose (if we vote for one of the two parties, that is). And, Senators haven't fared well in past elections against those who were governors (not since 1960, that is).
Especally when they're both running on 'washington outsider' tickets as well. Its one of the reasons why I think that the whole 'experience' issue is a non-issue-neither have experience in this kind of job and Palins is at best limited. TBH you can't really have experience to be President-its the biggest job in the world, no ones really prepared for it.
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Is or was Obama ever the mayor of Chicago or the governor of Illinois?
Carefull....somebody might think you are suggesting that a mayor or governor has more responsibility than a mere community organizer, state legislator, or U.S. Senator!
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Carefull....somebody might think you are suggesting that a mayor or governor has more responsibility than a mere community organizer, state legislator, or U.S. Senator!
Wasnt Palin both a mayor and Gov....

So by Donkey own words, someone that hold those govt titles has more powers thus more experience and know how to run the govt than a mere senator......
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Wasnt Palin both a mayor and Gov....

So by Donkey own words, someone that hold those govt titles has more powers thus more experience and know how to run the govt than a mere senator......
Ah... no.
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