I think atomicbeandog and this guy would get along swimmingly.

Poll figure is a tool manipulated by the Inside Group. They make it around 30% for Bush right now to tease you while the real approve rate may be well below 20%. So what if it's 29%? Bush still sits in his chair. It doesn't affect him a bit at all. Any time they can pull him back to 50% or higher with another "terror bombing".

But they make you gathered at the door to peep inside. Happy or sad with the change of a number. Like teasing a child with a candy, or teasing a dog with a bone.

Don't behaved like a fool. Leave it alone.

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The rest of the world looks at US politics and has a bit of a laugh... Seriously its not very democratic... There is realistically only two parties that can win.... Personally I would vote for either... There is too many ones and zeros...

What if your a guy who want low tax but also believes in abortion and gay marraige... Who do you vote for....

A Duopoly....

Nearly every other country using PR/Single Vote transfer we go to the poll knowing our vote is useful to 5-6 candidates..... Elections are usually fought with more civillity due to the lack of winner takes all result.... Most parties have to talk turkey before the goverment is formed....

P.S. Have to ask this question.... If the right wing believe is small goverment and large goverment interferring in our live so much why do they believe in interferring with the right of a woman to choose...

Check and balance.

Bush administration can do what they want to do without check and balance. The situation was created by the Inside group, they control the media and intelligence. Thus they controll how to select a candidate and the public opinion. Bush is only a puppet.

Clinton did a good job. When he left in 2000, there was a big surplus in budget. There was no reason that voters want a change. But for the inside group, their interest is to have war in Mid-east. So they developed a controversial election in Florida in 2000. Thus creating a condition that they could make a deal with the candidates. Who would start a war could be selected the president. Bush got the deal. He sold his soul to the devil.

911 was a created justification for the war.

As a matter of fact, majority are against war. War benefits a little interest group. People are always the losers. They always have to bear the suffering of money and lives. So Bush never has been approved by majority. But the media is in the hands of the Inside group. From time to time, they push out a poll to convince you that Bush has an approve rate around between 36% to 63% while the real figure may well below 20%.

Because the Inside group also control the intelligence, they control the voting result too. That's how Bush could be selected. To make the war policy easy for Bush to carry out, even it was against the will of public, they let the GOP control the House and Senate. This is what you see now there is no check and balance to the Bush administration.

The point is people lose the control of election. It is rigged by intelligence. And the result was justified by the fake poll of media.
To make US a real democratic country, the only way is to make the vote more transparent and be monitored by public.

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Moussaoui hoax (2)

Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.

He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.

Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?

Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.

The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.

Is it a chaotic show?

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Moussaoui hoax (3)

The background why Moussaoui is put on court at this time. It's when Charlie Sheen had his opinion that 911 is likely an inside job and other experts in succession suggest that 911 was manipulated by this administration as another Pearl Harbor. Bush government is in a trough of untrustworthy. They need help. So they push out Moussaoui.

Moussaoui's "I am Al Qaida." became the big title of media. He admitted his mission was to fly the fifth plane to hit the White House. That's what government wants. How convenient they got the evidence to prove it's an Al Qaida's work not their's.

But question comes again. How could Moussaoui hijack a plane by himself? How could he control the passengers while flying a plane? Where is other team member? So now government must find some other puppets and create some stories to support this 5th plane's story.

What a circus. Still we saw government releasing the conversation between the WTC victim and 911 emergence dispatcher, or let out a new film of "flight 93". At this time, it was used as a tool of psychological influence. You can see how government control public's mind if you stand at a higher level and watch over these news.

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Moussaoui hoax (4)

FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation

Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002

The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.

What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.

There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html

When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.

But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?

That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.

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Government released a cockpit tape. It could be a fake from the "disinformation strategy office" of intelligence. As cheap as Bin Laden's tape and Nick Berg's beheading tape. To produce one like that is as easy as to produce a film "Flight 93".

Appeals to Fabricated Evidence

The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings, allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door. Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally broken open using a drink cart."

Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!"). Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these! They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God, Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.

Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies "Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial appears to be following a script.

Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Prof. James Fetzer
218-726-7269

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cg...677;title=APFN

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The actual events were created hoax. Cheney knew it before news reported it. All this was pre-planned.

Quote, "Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
Sat Apr 15, 2006 00:06
64.140.158.37
Flight 93: The New Media Campaign

by Russell Pickering
russellpickering@bresnan.net

Why has Flight 93 suddenly taken center stage? Plain and simple it is the last resort of the perpetrators to hide. As 9/11 Truth groups successfully move forward with the goal of awakening Americans to the facts of the four events that occurred that day, only one is in a remote, obscure field. Only one was unavailable for real inspection (even in photos) until the trial. Only one is embedded in a legend of heroism.

Is there any evidence that the story of heroism was a pre-planned cover story? Yes there is. In an interview with CNN's John King in the vice president's office on September 11, 2002 Cheney was reported to have made a very interesting statement.

"Word came that Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Aides frantically called the White House to find out whether a military jet had shot it down.

"'The vice president was a little bit ahead of us,' said Eric Edelman, Cheney's national security advisor. 'He said sort of softly and to nobody in particular, 'I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane.'" (1)

In the context of having just given shoot down orders they received word that Flight 93 had crashed. They had no idea why as evidenced by the fact they were trying to determine if a military jet had shot it down. But Cheney in an underground bunker with confusion raging everywhere and no knowledge beyond what his aides were telling him says, "I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane."? Wait a second…..what could he have possibly based that statement on?

Even his aide noticed Cheney was, "a little bit ahead of us". I would go so far as to say he was a lot ahead of everybody. There was absolutely no possible way that Cheney was aware of the alleged cell phone calls and most certainly he had not heard the cockpit voice recorder. Where did he get his idea from?

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cg...501;title=APFN

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Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 described by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a single engine Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?

Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...

At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.

However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html

Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."

May 4, 2002, Saturday

A Trainee Noted for Incompetence

By JIM YARDLEY (NYT) 592 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 10 , Column 2

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...AC0894DA404482

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Good lord this guy is trying to get to 500 posts using this thread alone.

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Nah, he's got this one, too:

Law enforcement agency, a threaten to U.S. democracy

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The government is more clever than you thought. The reason why it has been so successful is that it co-opts its most effective challengers. Anyone who challenges the sanity of the government's policies or its insitutitions is immediately mentally manipulated. That person then becomes a bulwark for the establishment. This is what makes it important to check for any erratic and sudden changes in the behavior of our leading grassroots figures.


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Mind Control
The Ultimate Terror

[Editor's Note: May 31, 2006. Somewhere between May 18 and May 30, 2006, this mind control index page was surreptitiously erased from my web server and even from my hard drive. Apparently, someone doesn't want this topic ventilated before the public. I had to retrive an old copy of this Mind Control index page from a disc which I had saved in November 2005, therefore the more recent articles which I had posted on this page up to April 2006 will not appear in this version, but will be restored shortly after I've had a chance to retrive this page from a mirror site which was recently established in Europe. Thankfully, the synchronistic offer to set up the mirror site in early May from a very thoughtful person in Switzerland, came at just the right time. I will publish the url of the mirror site as soon as I find the e-mail sent to me by the person who set up the mirror site. ..Ken]

By Ken Adachi <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

The topic of mind control is elaborate, multifaceted, and multi layered. For the casual reader, it can quickly become numbing, overwhelming the senses and creating a desire to exit the topic, but avoiding this subject is the most foolish thing you could possibly do since your only chance of surviving this hideous and insidious enslavement agenda, which today threatens virtually all of humanity, isto understand how it functions and take steps to reduce your vulnerability.

The plans to create a mind controlled workers society have been in place for a long time. The current technology grew out of experiments that the Nazis started before World War II and intensified during the time of the Nazi concentration camps when an unlimited supply of children and adults were available for experimentation. We've heard about the inhumane medical experiments performed on concentration camp prisoners, but no word was ever mentioned by the media and the TV documentaries of the mind control experiments. That was not to be divulged to the American public. Mind control technologies can be broadly divided into two subsets: trauma-based or electronic-based.

The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers.

The second phase of mind control development was refined at an underground base below Fort Hero on Montauk , Long Island (New York) and is referred to as the Montauk Project. The earliest adolescent victims of Montauk style programming, so called Montauk Boys, were programmed using trauma-based techniques, but that method was eventually abandoned in favor of an all-electronic induction process which could be "installed" in a matter of days (or even hours) instead of the many years that it took to complete trauma-based methods.

Dr. Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety was the principle developer of the trauma-basedMonarch Project and the CIA'sMK Ultra mind control programs. Mengele and approximately 5, 000 other high ranking Nazis were secretly moved into the United States and South America in the aftermath of World War II in an Operation designated Paperclip. The Nazis continued their work in developing mind control and rocketry technologies in secret underground military bases. The only thing we were told about was the rocketry work with former Nazi star celebrities like Warner Von Braun. The killers, torturers, and mutilators of innocent human beings were kept discretely out of sight, but busy in U.S. underground military facilities which gradually became home to thousands upon thousands of kidnapped American children snatched off the streets (about one million per year) and placed into iron bar cages stacked from floor to ceiling as part of the 'training'. These children would be used to further refine and perfect Mengele's mind control technologies. Certain selected children (at least the ones who survived the 'training') would become future mind controlled slaves who could be used for thousands of different jobs ranging anywhere from sexual slavery to assassinations. A substantial portion of these children, who were considered expendable, were intentionally slaughtered in front of (and by) the other children in order to traumatize the selected trainee into total compliance and submission.

I see him posting this exact same stuff on other forums to.

It's amazing he has carried it on for so long. It's almost like Forrest Gump, he's just running.

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