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Old 08-14-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

The real terrorist

The war on terror is created by the Inside group. It is a terror war on people. Al Qaida is a puppet tool of US intelligence. A lot of people have recognized 911 was a false flag "terror attack". That's why you saw 911 attack targetted at civilians, even the victims in Pentagon were mostly civilian staffs and contractors. The Bali bombing targetted civilians' night club. Madrid bombing targetted at civilians, so did London bombing. And most evident case are the bombing case in Iraq. Al Qaida used to bomb the market, causing hundreds deaths of innocent people. All the bombers died in attack, no one survived. We were told by government they were Al Qaida. Is that too convenient to attribute all the crimes to someone unknown? This government can do whatever they want. For what reason Al Qaida focus at innocent people? There is only one reason: to instigate the indignation so the ruling class can get whatever they want.

Can Iraq return to peace? Yes, if CIA and Pentagon controlled Insurgence and Al Qaida stopping to attack people. But then US has no reason to stay in Iraq. Remember, they need troops there for more war: Iran and Iraq.

Can US remain safe? Yes, if US and Israel intelligence stopped activate false flag terror attack at people. But then the Inside Group lost its way to squeeze power and money from people.

I need power and money, you don't give me? All right, then taste 911 attack, anthrax attack, DC sniper shooting spree. ...... You have to approve "Patriot Act", "Iraq war authorization Bill", double Pentagon Budget, release military fund for Iraq......

They can achieve victory at any time if they needed (by stopping false flag attack) to save its popularity and win President election. But they can also start "terror attack" at any time to ask for more power and money. That's the truth of US politics.
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Old 08-16-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg

THIS is the proper "angle" you should be seeing U.S. Politics from.
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Old 08-16-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

If you're Kathaskung, maybe....



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Old 08-16-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

So many angles, so little time!
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Old 08-17-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

So much typing, so little point!
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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Our current US policy of relying on the anarchy of politics to provide for the general Welfare, and domestic tranquility of the United States, is less efficient than could otherwise be accomplished by a more bureaucratic implementation of public policy decisions by a UN level of interstate federal government.
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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Quote:
Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
This time the inside group like Bush to stay in 2nd term of president because he is obedient.
Obedient to whom?
The illuminati? The Masons? Satan?

Please tell us!
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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Why did the Peoples' Committee of the Inside Group, get Clinton elected? Wouldn't they be upset because we actually ran massive surpluses, instead of creating massive deficits, or spending exorbitant expensive amounts of superpower invading second and third world countries? Were they really upset that scheduled maintenance on the printing press at the US mint was less of an issue when making fiscal policy decisions?
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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Quote:
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Obedient to whom?
The illuminati? The Masons? Satan?

Please tell us!
Clearly it's all of the above.

Well, them plus Up With People.
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Old 08-26-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Who support insurgence?

In message "458. The execution of Saddam (12/30/06)", I wrote:

"You can view Saddam as a shrine of Sunni Muslim. Kill Saddam is to pour oil on a fire. It will flame a civil war.

What excuse the Neocon uses to have US troops staying in Iraq? Insurgence and riot. Although some people said Iraq war is like Vietnam war, it is not. There were two big countries: Soviet Union and China behind the Vietnam. It was their support of weapons and economic aids which helped North Vietnam to win the war. There was none such support for Iraq. Iran and Syria, are much weaker and smaller than Soviet Union and China then. They themselves know they are the next target of the Neocon. They dare not to offend US by supporting the Iraq insurgence. To stay in Iraq, Neocon try to make a mess in Iraq - they need a civil war of Iraq. "

Then who support the insurgence and militias the weapon they need? To my analysis, there is only one suspect: US. which has motives and ability.
The following news proved it's no others than US supplied weapon to the Iraqi insurgence and militias, though media use the word of "missing".

Quote, "ABC News: 190,000 AK-47s Sent to Iraq Are Missing

A young boy aims an AK-47 assault rifle during clashes between ... The Pentagon cannot account for 190,000 AK-47 rifles and pistols given to Iraqi ...

ABC News: 190,000 AK-47s Sent to Iraq Are Missing
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Old 09-06-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Karl Rove's resignation.

Karl Rove probably doesn't want to take any responsibility of "activating a 911 style terror attack on US and start another war in Mid-east". Let Cheney bears all. It may indicate a terror attack and Iran war is imminent.

Cheney Determined To Strike In US With WMD This Summer: Only Impeachment, Removal or General Strike Can Stop Him
<http://www.911truth.org/article_for_printing.php?story=20070724182855127>
By Webster G. Tarpley
7-21-7

"The greatest threat now is 'a 9/11' occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities."
-- Dick Cheney on Face the Nation, CBS, April 15, 2007

A few days ago, a group of lawyers from western Massachusetts met with the local congressman, Democrat John Olver. Their request was that Olver take part in the urgent effort to impeach Bush and Cheney. Olver responded by saying that he had no intention of doing anything to support impeachment. He went further, offering the information that the United States would soon attack Iran, and that these hostilities would be followed by the imposition of a martial law regime here.

According to reports in the British press, the Cheney war party has gained the upper hand in the secret councils of the Bush White House, pushing aside the purported hesitations of Miss Rice, Secretary Gates, and the NATO allies to chart a direct course towards war with Iran:

'The balance in the internal White House debate over Iran has shifted back in favour of military action before President George Bush leaves office in 18 months, the Guardian has learned. The shift follows an internal review involving the White House, the Pentagon and the state department over the last month. Although the Bush administration is in deep trouble over Iraq, it remains focused on Iran. A well-placed source in Washington said: "Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo." at a meeting of the White House, Pentagon and state department last month, Mr Cheney expressed frustration at the lack of progress and Mr Bush sided with him. "The balance has tilted. There is cause for concern," the source said this week. "Cheney has limited capital left, but if he wanted to use all his capital on this one issue, he could still have an impact," said Patrick Cronin, the director of studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.' ("Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran; Military solution back in favour as Rice loses out; President 'not prepared to leave conflict unresolved'", Guardian, July 16, 2007.)

Deluded supporters of the Democratic Party may soon have to throw away their pathetic countdown clocks, those self-consoling little devices that remind them of how much time remains until noon on January 20, 2009, the moment when it is thought that Bush will finally leave office. These countdown clocks make no provision for the Cheney doctrine, which calls for a new super 9/11 with weapons of mass destruction in the US, to be used as the pretext for a nuclear attack on Iran and for martial law at home. Those who think the Republicans cannot hold the White House in 2008 have forgotten that neocons always prefer a coup d'etat to an election. As Cheney told Bob Schieffer of CBS's Face the Nation on April 15, 2007:

'The greatest threat now is "a 9/11 occurring with a group of terrorists armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities."'
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Old 09-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Soap play (9/11/07)

Surge is working.... Surge failed..... tamed sheep argue in web site. The inside group is happy. They push out a general to flame the debate to make it a soap play.

The fact is: the surge is for Iran war. Bush needs more troops for the war so they invent a "surge". That's what you saw in follow stage:

1. When Democrates who newly controlled the House and said they would fight against Bush's Iraq war policy suddenly surrendered in May and released the Iraq war fund to Bush. The Inside group has made up their mind to start war on Iran. The politicians follow up the order.

2. The troops were increased in Iraq the following month. It was planned to be used for Iran war but the surge is in the name to surpress the insurgence in Iraq.

3. When the troops was ready, there was a three months plan for the war. (July to September)

(1) Bush needs an excusee to attack Iran. A massive terror attack will justify it.

(2) The terror attack is likely a dirty bomb attack or a real nuclear bomb attack. To justify the source of nuclear material, they had a secret deal with Russia. Russian leader Putin was invited to Bush's private ranch in Main in early July. After that, Russian escalates its cold war action by sending its strategy bombers to Guan and England. It's an operation to cover up the secret collaberation of two countries.

(3) The terror attack was planned in early September. That's why we saw terror case in Germany and Bin Laden released his tape at that time. We also knew the inside group planned to make a fortune in stock market on that terror attack .

4. When that plan seems go soured, they let out a general to prolong the stay of US troops in Iraq. The Inside group still prepare for another new plan.

It's a pitty to see the tame sheep busy to debate on surge - a fake issue.
Here is their three month plan:

Re:
U.S. Terror Attack - 'Ninety Days at Most'

Jul 02 10:20:33 2007
Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.

Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?

I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.

FOXNews.com - U.S. Terror Attack — 'Ninety Days at Most' - FOX Fan

Quote, "$4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks

Anybody have a clue as to what these 'investors' are expecting?
August 26, 2007

CRIMES AND CORRUPTION OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS: $4.5b bet on another 9/11 within 4 weeks
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Old 09-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Quote:
1. When Democrates who newly controlled the House and said they would fight against Bush's Iraq war policy suddenly surrendered in May and released the Iraq war fund to Bush. The Inside group has made up their mind to start war on Iran. The politicians follow up the order.
Does the People's Committee of the Inside Group (PCIG) have a rationale, for wasting more taxpayer money exporting democracy to potential red states that have not requested it (in the form of socialized wars), or do they simply operate in a vacuum?
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Old 09-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Other than private profit for the PCIG, what would the US gain from another expensive war in the Middle East?
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Old 09-25-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Don't mislead people about the conception of war. War is expensive to people because tax payer pay for it. War is always profitable for Inside Group. DOD got fat budget, DOJ got expanded police power, oil group, military industry group.... how can you say war is expensive to them? That's why anti-war soldiers be killed. (or rather: be murdered)

Pat Tillman killed for anti-war?

This is a dark country. They kill to silence dissenters.

Quote, "Were War Critic Soldiers Killed To Send Message?

Two soldiers who wrote op-ed that contradicted Patraeus report die in strange accident, while another is shot in the head in case that bears chilling resemblance to Pat Tillman story

September 14, 2007
Paul Joseph Watson

The mother of a soldier who died in an apparent vehicle accident shortly after writing a New York Times op-ed critical of the war in Iraq is demanding to know the truth about what happened to her son, while another author of the piece was also shot in the head in a case that bears a sinister resemblance to the murder of Pat Tillman.

Like Tillman, 28-year-old Sergeant Omar Mora enlisted shortly after 9/11 in the belief that he was fighting to protect his country from terrorists.

However, after the invasion of Iraq Mora became increasingly skeptical of the true agenda behind the war and in August he, along with six other active duty soldiers of the 82nd Airborne Division, wrote a stinging New York Times op-ed that slammed the occupation as "flawed," "absurd," and concluded that the sentiment of the Iraqi people renders the ultimate withdrawal of American troops inevitable.

The op-ed directly contradicts the foundation of the Patraeus report and characterizes the occupation as doomed to failure if the Bush administration's current policy is continued.

Just over three weeks after the op-ed was published, two of its authors, Mora and Sgt. Yance T. Gray, were killed in an apparent vehicle accident when their truck veered off an elevated highway in western Baghdad and fell about 30 feet, the military said.

Was this a simple accident or another Pat Tillman style cover-up? Was a message being sent to other soldiers who are considering speaking out against the war that dissent has deadly consequences?

Even if we are to dismiss the truck wreck as nothing more than an accident, another factor that has received next to no press attention should send red flags up for everyone.

A third author of the letter was also shot in the head in a separate incident during the time when the op-ed was being written. Though Staff Sgt. Jeremy Murphy survived and is expected to make a full recovery, the fact that three of the seven authors of the op-ed were either killed or received life-threatening injuries shortly before and after the publication of the piece is highly suspicious.

Sergeant Mora's mother certainly has questions - and is now demanding the Army provide a full account of the circumstances that led to her son's death.

After the op-ed was published Mora became depressed and wanted to return home. "He told me, 'Mama, I am tired, I am so tired. I want to come home,' " his mother, Olga Capetillo, recalled of a recent phone conversation," reports the Houston Chronicle .

As we reported in July , the revelation of astounding new details surrounding the death of Pat Tillman clearly indicated that top brass decided to execute the former pro football star in cold blood to prevent him from returning home and becoming an anti-war icon.

Medical examiners concluded that the Army Ranger was shot with an M-16 three times in the head from a mere 10 yards away. The close proximity of the bullet holes raised suspicions that foul play was involved but attempts to launch a proper investigation were stymied by higher-ups and a cover-up ensued.

Were War Critic Soldiers Killed To Send Message?
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