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Old 09-25-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

I guess, the only good thing about democracy, is that we get to change the people in charge every so often.
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Al Qaida works for US intelligence
Because OBL is an asset of CIA. The so said Al Qaida is a puppet tool works for US intelligence. They work to the demand of US intelligence.

Iran doesn't work for US.

When you try to frame a case, how can you make it look like a real one? With the help of your own puppets or with your enemy? It will be much difficult to have a false flag case in Iraq because Iran won't cooperate to frame themselves in. The puppet Al Qaida will do. That's how you saw, the only 911 survived suspect Mousaoui (the only prepared witness) cried in court: "I'm Al Qaida". But is there anyone here can give us the story how Maosaoui joined the 911 attack? Even though Moussaoui was arrested before 911, at least there was a plan, how he joined the team. But nobody knows. Maossaoui's case was a soap play.

What did Al Qaida do? (the major one which caused public attention)
1. Bombing WTC in 1993. Six people died.
2. Bombing US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzabua in 1999. Though 2 hundred people died, only 12 of them were Americans.
3. Bombing USS Cole in 2000. 17 US sailors died.

None of these was big enough to touch off a war. Because the casualty was small or the target was government.

Then Al Qaida (or its master) changed its tactic. They targetted at people. This strategy change happened after Bush took over the office. Or you can view it as the mastermind of the Al Qaida change its strategy when Bush is in power.

4. 911 attack in 2001. 3 thousand people killed. Most were Americans. (The motive was to give Bush an excuse to start Mid-East war.)
5. Bali bombing in October 2002. 2 hundred people killed. Most were Australians. (Same month when the House passed a bill to authorize President Bush Iraq war power. The motive is to push Australian joining the Iraq war.)
6. Madrid bombing in 2004. 2 hundred people killed. Most were Spanish. (To push Spanish people supporting an US ally, Aznar, in election.)
7. London bombing in 2005. Killed 52 Britons. (planned to justify coming terror attack in US.)
8. Since 2005, when Al Qaida bombed Iraq Shiite Shrine in Samarra, a civil war started in Iraq. Then we saw many bombings each of which often killed tens to hundred of innocent civilians.

We can see after 2001, Al Qaida mainly targets at innocent people. Why? Because thus people in panic willingly gave up their constitutional rights and and power and money to the ruling class.

All these attackers after 2001 were died. Mostly unnecessary. (The bombers could leave the bomb there and ignit it by remote control.) Why? Because these "suicide bombers" were innocent, they didn't know they were sacrifice in the plot. Many of them might be informants of the government. But that was the best result for mastermind. A witness of their crime eliminated.

It doesn't make sense to bomb innocent people. Even for religious extremest. What could Al Qaida get from killing innocent civilians?
Kill poor people, what for? It only benefits those people who want to provoke hatred and conflict for more war.

The flaw in 911 attack caused many suspicion from people. So this time the Inside Group prepared a big one - nuclear bombing which will caused the damage of the whole city and million's casualty. At the hope that people won't believe government will activate such big attack.

But they will. Because how big the attack is, the loser is always people. And, the government is always the winner - power and money. Don't you see what Bush and his group got after 911?


2. Al Qaida mission in Iraq - to provoke the conflict between Sunni and Shiite.(10/2/07)
Al Qaida (bear the mission to work for US intelligence) bombed Cole and US embassies in Africa, tried to give US a war excuss in Mid-east. It failed in Clinton's regime. Clinton only approved a missle bombing of Afghanistan. He knew war is an important issue not a toy, couldn't play it too easy. He wass punished by Lewinsky scandal and almost be impeached from his seat.

So the inside group changed another president, Bush, who is eagerly to follow up the order of Inside Group. Al Qaida, once again, attacked on 911. (though I believe the attack was done by the insiders, Al Qaida only took over the responsibility in the name.) Bush started the war in Mid-east, (Afghanistan and Iraq). Al Qaida's mission (to cause a war) was done.

What is Al Qaida's next mission? You know the Road map in Mid-east for the Inside Group is more war. (Iran and Syria) So US troops must stay there until more conqure is done. A peaceful Iraq surely won't justify the occupation of US Army. That's why we saw Al Qaida once again take up its second mission - to make a mess in Iraq. Al Qaida bombed Shiite's shirine in Samarra. Its' suicide bomber killed a lot of innocent Iraqi civillians, dozens to hundred died in each bombing. How could Islam shirine and Muslim became the targets of Al Qaida? It doesn't make sense at all. But watch from the side of US intelligence, you know what is it.
They tried to provoke a civil war in Iraq so US troops has an excuse to stay, even to increase the troops there.

The recent situation is a good sample. Bush planned Iran war in early September. The troops he needed for war has been sent to Iraq in June in the name of "surge". The excuse for Iran war is another super 911- a nuclear attack in US on 8/30. That was when a US B-52 "mistakenly carried 6 nuclear missle" flied over states on 8/30. The plot went soured. And Bush pushes out a General to conclude "surge" is necessary in September.

What is Al Qaida's mission, you still are not clear?
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

What is not clear, is how the US will benefit from another expensive war front in the middle east.

I am sure the PCIG knows you can only get so many golden eggs from the goose before it stops producing eggs.
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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Al Qaida works for US intelligence
Because OBL is an asset of CIA. The so said Al Qaida is a puppet tool works for US intelligence. They work to the demand of US intelligence.

Iran doesn't work for US.

When you try to frame a case, how can you make it look like a real one? With the help of your own puppets or with your enemy? It will be much difficult to have a false flag case in Iraq because Iran won't cooperate to frame themselves in. The puppet Al Qaida will do. That's how you saw, the only 911 survived suspect Mousaoui (the only prepared witness) cried in court: "I'm Al Qaida". But is there anyone here can give us the story how Maosaoui joined the 911 attack? Even though Moussaoui was arrested before 911, at least there was a plan, how he joined the team. But nobody knows. Maossaoui's case was a soap play.

What did Al Qaida do? (the major one which caused public attention)
1. Bombing WTC in 1993. Six people died.
2. Bombing US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzabua in 1999. Though 2 hundred people died, only 12 of them were Americans.
3. Bombing USS Cole in 2000. 17 US sailors died.

None of these was big enough to touch off a war. Because the casualty was small or the target was government.

Then Al Qaida (or its master) changed its tactic. They targetted at people. This strategy change happened after Bush took over the office. Or you can view it as the mastermind of the Al Qaida change its strategy when Bush is in power.

4. 911 attack in 2001. 3 thousand people killed. Most were Americans. (The motive was to give Bush an excuse to start Mid-East war.)
5. Bali bombing in October 2002. 2 hundred people killed. Most were Australians. (Same month when the House passed a bill to authorize President Bush Iraq war power. The motive is to push Australian joining the Iraq war.)
6. Madrid bombing in 2004. 2 hundred people killed. Most were Spanish. (To push Spanish people supporting an US ally, Aznar, in election.)
7. London bombing in 2005. Killed 52 Britons. (planned to justify coming terror attack in US.)
8. Since 2005, when Al Qaida bombed Iraq Shiite Shrine in Samarra, a civil war started in Iraq. Then we saw many bombings each of which often killed tens to hundred of innocent civilians.

We can see after 2001, Al Qaida mainly targets at innocent people. Why? Because thus people in panic willingly gave up their constitutional rights and and power and money to the ruling class.

All these attackers after 2001 were died. Mostly unnecessary. (The bombers could leave the bomb there and ignit it by remote control.) Why? Because these "suicide bombers" were innocent, they didn't know they were sacrifice in the plot. Many of them might be informants of the government. But that was the best result for mastermind. A witness of their crime eliminated.

It doesn't make sense to bomb innocent people. Even for religious extremest. What could Al Qaida get from killing innocent civilians?
Kill poor people, what for? It only benefits those people who want to provoke hatred and conflict for more war.

The flaw in 911 attack caused many suspicion from people. So this time the Inside Group prepared a big one - nuclear bombing which will caused the damage of the whole city and million's casualty. At the hope that people won't believe government will activate such big attack.

But they will. Because how big the attack is, the loser is always people. And, the government is always the winner - power and money. Don't you see what Bush and his group got after 911?


2. Al Qaida mission in Iraq - to provoke the conflict between Sunni and Shiite.(10/2/07)
Al Qaida (bear the mission to work for US intelligence) bombed Cole and US embassies in Africa, tried to give US a war excuss in Mid-east. It failed in Clinton's regime. Clinton only approved a missle bombing of Afghanistan. He knew war is an important issue not a toy, couldn't play it too easy. He wass punished by Lewinsky scandal and almost be impeached from his seat.

So the inside group changed another president, Bush, who is eagerly to follow up the order of Inside Group. Al Qaida, once again, attacked on 911. (though I believe the attack was done by the insiders, Al Qaida only took over the responsibility in the name.) Bush started the war in Mid-east, (Afghanistan and Iraq). Al Qaida's mission (to cause a war) was done.

What is Al Qaida's next mission? You know the Road map in Mid-east for the Inside Group is more war. (Iran and Syria) So US troops must stay there until more conqure is done. A peaceful Iraq surely won't justify the occupation of US Army. That's why we saw Al Qaida once again take up its second mission - to make a mess in Iraq. Al Qaida bombed Shiite's shirine in Samarra. Its' suicide bomber killed a lot of innocent Iraqi civillians, dozens to hundred died in each bombing. How could Islam shirine and Muslim became the targets of Al Qaida? It doesn't make sense at all. But watch from the side of US intelligence, you know what is it.
They tried to provoke a civil war in Iraq so US troops has an excuse to stay, even to increase the troops there.

The recent situation is a good sample. Bush planned Iran war in early September. The troops he needed for war has been sent to Iraq in June in the name of "surge". The excuse for Iran war is another super 911- a nuclear attack in US on 8/30. That was when a US B-52 "mistakenly carried 6 nuclear missle" flied over states on 8/30. The plot went soured. And Bush pushes out a General to conclude "surge" is necessary in September.

What is Al Qaida's mission, you still are not clear?
Excellent post!!

It is still amazing that there are still people that prefer to subscribe to "fairy tales" after all this. What you have here certainly makes far more sence than what the MSM and the Whitehouse spews at us everyday.

What concerns me the very most , is how many innocent people will still have to die before we all wake up.

With your permission, I would like to post this on some other message boards.

Thank you.
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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What is not clear, is how the US will benefit from another expensive war front in the middle east.

I am sure the PCIG knows you can only get so many golden eggs from the goose before it stops producing eggs.

The U.S. won't benefit.

There is another country who already has and will until this madness stops.

Guess which one?

Hint: It is NOT Iran or Syria.
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Is it Big Rock Candy Mountain? Is it Fantasyland? Is it the wonderful land of Oz? Is it Pretendistan? Is it Jewsdid911khan? Is it WakeupNeobrook?
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Old 10-05-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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The U.S. won't benefit.

There is another country who already has and will until this madness stops.

Guess which one?

Hint: It is NOT Iran or Syria.
I think all of the countries in that region are not benefiting from better trade relations.
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Old 10-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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Excellent post!!

It is still amazing that there are still people that prefer to subscribe to "fairy tales" after all this. What you have here certainly makes far more sence than what the MSM and the Whitehouse spews at us everyday.

What concerns me the very most , is how many innocent people will still have to die before we all wake up.

With your permission, I would like to post this on some other message boards.

Thank you.
Yes, everybody has the permission to spread my articles.
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Old 10-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Giuliani got booed in Yankee game.

That's quite unusual. Rudy is painted as a 911 hero by media. He was New York mayor. How could a New York hero be booed by New Yorkers? Rudy is also said by media as leading in GOP's candidates in President campaign. Does it mean Bush's party is really unpopular, or media used to cheat public by false propaganda, or both? Or people won't believe the fairy tale of media anymore?

Quote, "Yankee Fans Hate Rudy

By: Jane Hamsher

The most frequent use of mixing politics and baseball at Yankee stadium is Steinbrenner’s promotion of right wing extremist Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani gets a front row, unimpeded view of Yankee games because these seats are given to him by Steinbrenner. Then Yankee stadium officials and the networks try to plaster Rudy Giuliani’s face all over the big screen and the television. This amounts to millions of dollars of free advertising, something quite beneficial when you are running for President.

But Steinbrenner overplayed his hand. Giuliani got roundly booed at Yankee Stadium and this will play out on the campaign trail.

Firedoglake - Firedoglake weblog » Yankee Fans Hate Rudy
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

I'm really sick and tired of this fairty tale that Giuliani is somehow strong on terrorism. He has no record. It's all macho bravado cock-waving phoney outrage from another right-wing candidate who sees everything in black and white and believes that America should just go on torturing and capturing people at random. To go along with him you'd have to debase yourself into being a "Good German" American who is a sympathizer for torture prisons and illegal detentions.

As for war with Iran, I'm afraid that Americans are simply lulled into believing everything their leaders say. Hillary Clinton along with 74 other senators voted on that resolution to say that the Iranian Revolution Guard are terrorists. Great. More black and white thinking. No nuance. Their beating the drums of war again and giving Bush a blank check to do it. America has no credibility whatsoever and yet Americans are going to work, going shopping, eating, watching reality shows, imperveous to any thought of waking up about this it seems.

Who knows, maybe America will surprise me, but right now all the alarm bells should be going off because precisely the same thing was happening before Iraq that is now happening in regards to Iran.
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Old 10-15-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

I think the Democrats are better off abstaining from foreign entanglements. Their forte was in domestic policy, not foreign policy, when they were running massive surpluses.

The Republicans already have ample claim to being incumbents who have no solutions to US socioeconomic issues, and have to resort to forms of anarchy, when the UN has a legal and moral mandate to promote and provide for the general Welfare of any red states external to the US.

According to Aristotle, "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime." Since revolution and crime can be considered forms of terrorism, why would anyone want to sponsor terrorism, for free? Isn't it better to simply pay people to be more market friendly and less privateering or terroristic? Having massive surpluses in the public treasury would make it much more convenient to implement better public policy.
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Old 10-25-2007
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Re: Al-Qaida Plans Nuclear Attacks on 7 U.S. Cities
NewsMax Wires

Seasoned investigative reporter and former FBI consultant Paul Williams reveals the alarming potential for nuclear terrorism on U.S. soil and the sinister connections among organized crime, illegal immigrants, and al-Qaida. [Editor's Note: Get Paul Williams' explosive "The Day of Islam" FREE -<http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nms/showdetl.cfm?DID=6&Product_ID=2281>.]

Recently, FBI Director Robert Mueller, in an interview with NewsMax, confirmed Williams' main claim. Mueller said al-Qaida's paramount goal is clear: to detonate a nuclear device that would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.

Mueller told NewsMax that at times, the threat feels so real he lies awake at night thinking about the prospect.

Williams maintains that al-Qaida is not content on blowing up one nuclear device or even simply a "dirty" nuke - but wants to explode real nuclear devices in seven U.S. cities simultaneously

The Day of Islam

A typical misinformation from intelligence' strategy office to justify a false flag "dirty bomb" attack. This time they activated former FBI consultant Williams and FBI director Mueller.

Iraq's Saddam, tried his best for WMD, he even couldn't get a little bit of uranian. (Plame's case).

Iran, with all its effort, still far from nuclear bomb.

These two, both are rich with oil money and have the power of the state, failed for their ambition of nuclear weapon.

How can Al Qaida, with no tank, vessel, military planes, even can't defend themselves and is said to run "from cave to cave". Can get whatever they want even Iran and Iraq couldn't have?

This evil government, to loot more oil in Mid-east, activate a 911 attack in the name of Al Qaida to justify their invasion in Iraq and Afghanistan. For war on Iran, they will have another super 911 to justify it. The coming "terror attack" will be a dirty bomb attack. That's why you see there is such kind of propaganda. A psychological operation to pre-conception your mind. That how mouse become threat of cat. Think with your brain.
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Why would we want to start forms of nuclear warfare, if a goal of statism is to ensure the domestic tranquility of the state?

Why not simply give the UN interstate government (in its present form of statism) a funded mandate to promote and provide for the general Welfare of any red states external to the US.
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Just remember one thing only.......................

Al-Qaida=Mossaud. ("By deception thou shalt do war!")

That is all you need to know.
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

You know, I am not usually big on rules until it comes to quotes...and I swear to [insert-deity-here] that this place needs a rule that states ANY true quote sourced from within or without this site SHOULD utilize the ACTUAL quote-function/tool.

What a freakin mess this thread is.

How freaking hard can it BE to highlight your damned cut-paste and CLICK THE QUOTE BUTTON?

Christ.
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