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Old 12-30-2008
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

13. Harassment from Feds (12/28/08)

I said oil price started to drop after my article of July 4th. When the planed Iran war went soured in August, the Inside group planed a financial crisis to stabilize the dollar. It started on 9/14, when Leman Brothers went bankruptcy.

Though some people don't believe it's my revelation that caused oil price drop, I felt it strongly. Not only by the swift reaction of the oil price change, but also by the heavy persecution from Feds. 9/14 (Leman Brother's bankruptcy) signals the start of financial tsunami. Next day I was blocked to post in internet. From 9/15 to mid December, in three months, for more than two months I was blocked from internet. In later October, someone intruded my front yard, doing some perpetual work on the phone connection box. I had to call phone company for a repair to revive the function. I failed to post in many web forums. Worst of all, my ISP AOL cancel the homepage service in October where I used to post my journal article "The dark side of US" every five days. They also announced the close of the MSN web sites where I post in more than a dozen groups.

Why do they do such an unusual, weird work? Because my analysis is very correct, Feds are afraid of it.

Re: 573. Big operation to censor my message (10/17/08)

I learned that the MSN web sites are abandoned by microsoft. It proves what I said in last message "other web site which having my aricle will be attacked too". It may also indicts that a big operation is coming. The top goal of the Feds is to eliminate my revelation. My message is too true to exist in this information world.

Re: "Confirmed: Microsoft Gives Up On MSN Groups, Hands It Off To Multiply
Jason KincaidTechCrunch.com
Wednesday, October 15, 2008; 3:59 PM

We've received confirmation that Microsoft is handing over the reins to its MSN Groups property to the social network Multiply. Microsoft is planning to release a new service called Windows Live Groups in November, and apparently doesn't want to compete with itself. Oddly enough, Microsoft has chosen not to allow groups to transition between the two services, and instead is going to offer a migration tool that will allow users to take groups over to Multiply, which currently bills itself as the world's 8th largest social network.
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The Microsoft post also states that users will have until February 21, 2009 to migrate their groups over to Multiply, after which point the site will cease to exist.
This just seems weird - why would Microsoft abandon a sizable (but dwindling) chunk of users to an entirely unrelated social network? It's nice that they aren't leaving their users out in the cold, but why not just cut off new signups to MSN Groups and allow the legacy users to continue on in peace? Microsoft may appear to have made the gesture in good faith, but it's likely that the company is hoping users will scoff at the idea of having to migrate, and just sign up on the new Live service when it launches.
Whatever Microsoft's intentions, Multiply is sure to be happy with the deal, as it has just been handed millions of new users (we're trying to contact Microsoft for the exact number). "
Confirmed: Microsoft Gives Up On MSN Groups, Hands It Off To Multiply - washingtonpost.com

The purpose of this oddly and weird decision is very clear for me - to censor my long time journal style revelation - "The dark side of US" and other messages. There will be a framed drug case prepared in November. So once Kat Hak Sung is eliminated in the framed case, he couldn't transfer (or in their word: migrate) the file to new site, this is why both AOL and Microsoft will clear the old site - no trace of "the dark side of US" will leave for people. That's a typical style of Feds.

AOL and Microsoft are two big firms. Their decision is unreasonable which will hurt their fame and popularity. The timing is not a coincidence. It will match the coming framed drug case which may come with some other big events as distraction. No one except the Feds can force the two giant firms to make such a weird decision.

Re: Dear AOL Hometown/FTP user,

We’re sorry to inform you that on Oct. 31, 2008, AOL® Hometown and FTP will be shut down permanently. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Though you will be able to modify your Hometown site and access FTP until this date, we urge you to save your AOL Hometown/FTP content immediately, and consider other options for hosting your site. ........
The AOL Hometown Team

(I wrote #533 on 10/17/08. I was blocked to post it for two weeks until today - 11/3/08))
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Old 01-11-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Oil 14. Orderly bankruptcy, an intimidation to investors (1/10/09)

On 5/17/08, Congress passed the bill to raise the cap of jumbo loan rates on mortgage from previous $417,000 to $729,750 in high priced parts of the country . . On same day, Funnie Mae announced new rule to reduce down payment from 10% to 5%. It may reflect what Bush said at that time, the economy of US was basically sound.

But two months later Federal officials said they needed a bailout to rescue the mortgage giants. What happened? Certainly it was not because of new rule. It was less than two months after the new regulation. New house buyers may have started their application procedure but have no time to enjoy the new benefit yet, let alone to go new foreclosure. The collapse of Funnie Mae and Freddie Mac was manipulated, on the purpose to touch off a financial crisis to cover up "Dollar crisis" caused by excessive petro dollar. Remember I revealed it on 7/4. The oil price turned around its rising curve and started its descending since then. And one week later, on 7/11, a new project to stabilize the dollar was done - to create a financial crisis. Then we saw a series of psychological operation - news propaganda on "troubled real estate giants" even though two months ago it was full of confidence to save the housing market. Government is the sponsor of FunnieMae and Freddie Mac. It controls and directs the business of the two. If Feds wants the two going bankruptcy, they went bankruptcy. Outsiders never know the truth.

But Funnie and Freddie are limited to real estate only. To push up a financial tsunami, the Insiders need another big name - Leman Brothers became victim. Though real estates loan was an important business for Leman Brothers, it also packed various other kind of loan to investors. The bankruptcy of Leman Brothers vastly effects in financial area -banks, mutual funds, insurance company, money market ... Feds could have saved Leman Brothers like they saved Bear Stern. The cost would be much smaller compare to 700 billion they used in later rescue plan. But they leave it alone. The bankruptcy of Leman Brothers is a necessity to push up a financial tsunami.

It is a very successful plan. All investment fund, or speculating money, or petro dollar, are locked in a balloon of US bond. Feds has whips in hand. Any one dares to invest in other area are beaten. Foreign currency? Most devalued to dollar. Stock market? Anytime will lose several hundred points. Real estates? No one knows where is the bottom. Feds also has intimidation in hand: media predict more lay offs, more bankruptcy. One interesting thing is Media's propaganda on Auto giants' bankruptcy. They say US auto industry is inefficient and deserve a shut down. But Government still gave the Auto giants a little money to survive several months. What for? If you have a boat, and know there is a big hole in the bottom and the sinking is inevitable, will you spend more money to paint it or decorate it? Why not use the money to buy a new one? But they still spend money on a sinking boat, says it is an "Orderly bankruptcy". Is that ridiculous?

"Orderly bankruptcy" is a sword of Damocles. It warns you that if you dare to invest, the sword will drop on you any time. By announcing the bankruptcy of Ford or GM, Feds could create another stock market earthquake. The purpose is to maintain the balloon of the US bond. Keep the money from leaving.

Feds plans to keep that balloon for months, no longer than one year.
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Old 01-13-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Dude, you got out of jail, that's great.

Nice to have you back.

Maybe someday, like when hell freezes over, I will attempt to wade through your posts.

I do thank you for your efforts though. Your posts actually make mine seem more reasonable.
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Old 01-13-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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I do thank you for your efforts though. Your posts actually make mine seem more reasonable.
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Old 01-14-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

No Norrin, you make his posts look more reasonable.
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Old 01-20-2009
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No Norrin, you make his posts look more reasonable.
Please. I at least make specific points.

While I admit my posts are often too long and I often times present too much information, I do address points made by others and I do not simply drone on and on and on.
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Old 01-27-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Norrin, Kathak has stood the test of time on this forum. He is the longest running active poster behind the owner of the site, and has been here longer than anyone. In his time he has constantly stayed dedicated to his threads about the views he has from both the dark side and from the other angle and has not been put off one iota by anything (warnings he has received, ridicule from other members, lack of responses from other members etc) thrown his way. When you can boast even a remote fraction of that then you might think you're even in the same league as him as far as conspiracy theorists go, and then maybe you could rival the fact he does this not just on this site but multiple sites and has his own refference in a dictionary. And to top it off, he doesn't actually believe a word of this, its all for fun.
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Old 01-31-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Oil 15. Maintain the crisis until Iran war coming (1/15/08)

US economy takes a lot of advantage from Petro dollar. So when Iran abandons dollar as oil trading currency, it hurts dollar foundation significantly. To save the green back, the war on Iran is inevitable. The latest attempt to war on Iran was failed in August 2008. Next month, a financial crisis is created to save the dollar. The financial crisis push people to change the investment into cash - the dollar, and drives the dollar into a balloon - US bond. The Inside Group will keep that balloon until the Iran war break out.

I said so is out of a decision made by the President elect - Obama. He decides to let Bush's Defense Secretary - Robert Gates to stay in chair for one more year. It means the Inside group still wants to finish Iran war within a year. They keep that dollar balloon from popping until the war comes.

Robert Gates is a well selected neo-con follower, no other than Rumsfeld, Bush and Ashcroft. He has been chosen to command the Iran war of 2008 August which was failed to activate. No one is more familiar with that war project then him. No one will work better than him with that military official group inside Pentagon which developed the Iran war project. If Bush can't stay in President seat, Gates is the right person to stay for the war.

Barak Obama won the president election by his slogan "change". One important reason he won the campaign is because he said he opposes Iraq war. But when it touches the interest of the Inside Group, he has to obey. Pentagon is an area needs an utter "change", Obama reacts with "un change". He says he opposes Iraq war, because the bird is in hand already. It doesn't cost anything to do a lip service. But when his master gave an order, he will hug another war.

Politicians are picked up from the followers of the Inside Group. High ranking politicians have been all screened tier upon tier. They are all the same even though they sticking a different sign of donkey or elephant on their clothes. When people are tired of a white wolf, they gave you a black one. But on the core it's the same. Wolf won't change its habit to eat lamb.

There is a Chinese fable: Three for breakfast and four for super. It says a monkey keeper gave his monkey four nuts in breakfast and three for supper. Monkey felt hungry and protested. The keeper thought for a while than pretended compromise. He said, "OK, you win, I will give you three nuts in morning and four in the evening." Monkey thought it won because the keeper changed three into four for supper. So when Obama gives you four nuts for supper but three in the morning, do you think there is a change?
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Old 01-31-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

I think it depends on what is accomplished. Eliminating official poverty could be considered a significant accomplishment for our first world, political-economy. Simply transitioning to a welfare-state economic model from a warfare-state economic model could help the rest of the market in our global economy, since market based economics are more conducive to improvements in standards of living through the use of mutually beneficial trade.
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Old 02-11-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

For Oil 16, see "585. A super 911 to justify Iran war (1/30/09)" in my other thread "The dark side of US" in forum "political parties, campaigns & election".

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Caroline's withdraw (1/22/09)
President Kennedy was assassinated by the Feds. To prevent his family members to rise in power to investigate the truth of murder, the other member of Kennedy's family either was murdered or intimidated when they dare to gain power politically.
So we saw Robert Kennedy was murdered before he could win a president campaign. And a scandal prevented Senator Ted Kennedy to join a president election. Jacklin died early in her 60s because she knew something about her husband's death. Jr. Kennedy died in a misterious air plane accident.
Now Kennedy's daughter was intimidated when she tried to test that forbidden area. On 1/20, Ted Kennedy was sent to hospital after he had a seisure in Obama's Inauguration Ceremony. The warning was the result of an high tech. EM wave weapon. One day later, we saw the news:
Quote, "Kennedy Drops Bid for Senate Seat
1/22/09
A person who worked closely with Caroline Kennedy says her decision to abruptly withdraw her bid for New York's Senate seat was unrelated to the poor health of her uncle, Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy.
Why Did Kennedy Drop Senate Seat Bid?

Is that particular description - "unrelated" ridiculous?
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Old 02-23-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

For Oil 17, see "587. A nuclear bombing to justify Iran war (2/10/09)" in my other thread "The dark side of US" in forum "political parties, campaigns & election".

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Fat cat profit from Iraq war

When they attacked Daschel on his tax problem, GOP never talked a bit of how much money they embezzled from Iraq. That may be the reason why GOP is so fond of "war on terror". Because they always profit from a conflict, from fat budget of defense to profitable contract.

Ordinary people pay tax. Selected politicians vote for war. Fat cats make profit. That's US politics.
Quote, "A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff

Senior US soldiers investigated over missing Iraq reconstruction billions
By Patrick Cockburn in Sulaimaniyah, Northern Iraq

In what could turn out to be the greatest fraud in US history, American authorities have started to investigate the alleged role of senior military officers in the misuse of $125bn (£88bn) in a US -directed effort to reconstruct Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

The exact sum missing may never be clear, but a report by the US Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) suggests it may exceed $50bn, making it an even bigger theft than Bernard Madoff's notorious Ponzi scheme.

"I believe the real looting of Iraq after the invasion was by US officials and contractors, and not by people from the slums of Baghdad," said one US businessman active in Iraq since 2003. ....

The end of the Bush administration which launched the war may give fresh impetus to investigations into frauds in which tens of billions of dollars were spent on reconstruction with little being built that could be used. In the early days of the occupation, well-connected Republicans were awarded jobs in Iraq, regardless of experience. A 24-year-old from a Republican family was put in charge of the Baghdad stock exchange which had to close down because he allegedly forgot to renew the lease on its building......

Often sums paid out in cash were never recorded. In one case, an American soldier put in charge of reviving Iraqi boxing gambled away all the money but he could not be prosecuted because, although the money was certainly gone, nobody had recorded if it was $20,000 or $60,000.

A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff - Americas, World - The Independent
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Old 02-24-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

What is the opinion of the morals and ethics of artificial wars that do not provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States, but still require the coercive use of force of the State to implement and waste money on?

With a welfare-state economic model, we could have simply helped build better infrastructure and have less expensive fuel by now, and possibly be further along with renewable fuels.
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Old 03-05-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

For Oil 18, see "589. Regime change to control nuclear bomb of Pakistan (2/22/09)" in my other thread "The dark side of US" in forum "political parties, campaigns & election".

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Quote, "Poor Joe the Plumber Looks Lonely at His Own Book Signing

Posted by Melissa McEwan February 27, 2009.

Wow.

The event was scheduled to last three hours, but ended after 55 minutes, with Joe having sold a total of five books.

Poor Joe the Plumber Looks Lonely at His Own Book Signing | PEEK | AlterNet

How media to cheat public

Though media makes him a popular figure, he is actually not a welcome man. Or he doesn't represent the grass root people. His story is only a soap opera conducted by GOP for their campaign. He became popular because media is controlled by Republican and they need to show that Republican Party supported by grass root people. But all that is only a propaganda. A book signing tells it all. After all Republican Party is for the interest of rich people, they are minor in US. They could win the election because they control the media and the intelligence. They selected politicians such like Bush by rigged election (becuase they control intelligence) and justify the result by fake poll. (they control media).
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Old 03-15-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

For Oil 19, see "591. Driving Iran into a nuclear weapon trap (3/5/09)" in my other thread "The dark side of US" in forum "political parties, campaigns & election".

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Quantanamo detainees (1/27/09)

Quote, "The Defense Department has said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees -- about 11 percent of 520 detainees transferred from the detention center and released -- are believed to have returned to the fight."

washingtonindependent.com/26969/those-61-gitmo-recidivists-keep-popping-back-up -

1. These people were released under Bush regime. So Pentagon had purpose on it. Do you think the people like Rumsfeld and Bush would free extremists to fight against them? They are famous for torture, illegal detaining. More likely these are false flag "terrorist" trained by Pentagon's Guantanamo college. They will work for the interest of US intelligence.

2. How do you know they were not brain washed, or recruited by US military or intelligence? The dirty bomb suspect, Padilla, was once designed to be the witness to prove Iraq related to dirty bomb plot, was recruited in prison. (The plan was soured after my revelation)

3. When people are aware of that 911 was a false flag attack, this becomes a typical model that government manipulate the "terrorists" to squeeze money and power from people. European country has reason to refuse those Gitmo prisoners. They are likely false flag "terrorist" working for Pentagon and US intelligence. They will play the role like Bin Laden.
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Old 03-26-2009
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

For Oil 20 and 21, see "593. Payment to North Korea (3/15/09) and 595. Push Iran to swallow a bait (3/25/09)" in my other thread "The dark side of US" in forum "political parties, campaigns & election".

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Quantanamo detainees (1/27/09)

This news may prove what I have said that Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. They are protected and supported by Pentagon and Feds and work as a false flag to the US interest. That's why they are from Bin Laden (CIA trained Majahidden) Saudi, Pakistan (US allies) and US Guantanamo. And none was from Iraq (Saddam's regime) Iran or Syria.

61 released Guantanamo detainees return to fight, it only proves Guantanamo becomes a big train center of the false flag terrorists.

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.
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