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Old 11-17-2004
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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"We have lost nothing. We gained our independence from the fascist, sick terror freaks who attack everyone on the planet. "

When were we dependant on "the fascist, sick terror freaks who attack everyone on the planet."?
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Old 11-27-2004
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

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If you believe that exit polls are accurate, you might want to look at the results of the democratic primary in New Hampshire. Exit polls showed it close, but Kerry won with a 13 point advantage.
There was no conflict there. All election were rigged, either it's final or primary. So the exit polls were all different from results. All the winners were the favourite of Inside group not of people. Inside group needs war, that's why they made Kerry a winner over Dean. Kerry votes for Iraq war and Dean is anti-war. And between Kerry and Bush, they choose the most evil one.
That's why you see exit poll favors Kerry but he lost 48% to 51%. And you saw a close tight in primary but Kerry won 13%.

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Bush was elected not by people but inside group (3) (11/26)

Bush sold his soul to devil

The fraud in 2004 election was vast and wide spreaded. And almost all of them favored Bush and GOP. It was a well planed rig. No other group then intelligence could carry out such an operation.

As a matter of fact, there might have been a long history to manipulate election. Only at that time it was covert and in small scale. It became evident in 2000 election when inside group create a suspending case in Florida. When Clinton left White House, he left for us a historical budget surplus. Demo did good in economy. There was no reason for people to change regime.

But good economy was not the interest of D.O.J.. What they needed was an expanding police power. For that power they had created Oklahoma bombing. They failed to pass a bill similar to Patriot Act after the Oklahoma bombing. They prepared for a bigger one - 9/11. But needed someone to carry it out.

That was why there was a pending case in Florida. The situation gave inside group a base to negotiate a deal with candidate. The merchandise was a terror attack and war, the payment was the seat of Presidency. There was a month long process for the negotiation. Bush won the deal at last. He sold his soul to the devil. He promised to activate Iraq war if he became President. He got it.

In the book "The Price of Loyalty" written by former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill which provided about 19,000 pages of documents. It revealed Bush determined to go to war in Iraq even before the 9/11 attack.

That was why we saw Bush behaved so unusual after 9/11.

Re: "On the evening of Sept. 12, 2001, according to a newly published memoir, President Bush wandered alone around the Situation Room in a White House emptied by the previous day's calamitous events. Spotting Richard A. Clarke, his counterterrorism coordinator, Bush pulled him and a small group of aides into the dark paneled room.

"Go back over everything, everything," Bush said, according to Clarke's account. "See if Saddam did this."

"But Mr. President, al Qaeda did this," Clarke replied.

"I know, I know, but . . . see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred."

Reminded that the CIA, FBI and White House staffs had sought and found no such link before, Clarke said, Bush spoke "testily." As he left the room, Bush said a third time, "Look into Iraq, Saddam."

At last, Bush using a fake "WMD" to start the Iraq war. He fulfiled the deal and proved he is a royal puppet. That was probably why he was chosen again in election 2004.
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Old 11-27-2004
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Bush sold his soul to the devil. Good one, I thought he gave it to the devil.
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Old 11-28-2004
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Well, Kathaksung, I am very impressed by your line of arguments in this thread. And I am not suprised why so few of our neocon friends could keep up with it.
the reason none of us have responded to this thread is because we all forgot to bring our rabbit eared tin foil beany caps to the meeting tonight.

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Old 12-07-2004
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Bush sold his soul to the devil. Good one, I thought he gave it to the devil.
I said "sold" because it was a deal. "activating a war" to exchange "winning President campaign".

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Ohio 2004 plays the same role of Florida 2000

Bush was elected not by people but inside group (4) (12/7)

Tasted the sweet of advantage of a pending competition, Inside group created another one in election 2004. It is in Ohio.

The media created a situation that the country was divided by red and blue. And the result of election depended on some undecided states. It was a psychological gimmick. They manipulate the public to focus on a few states but neglect the others. Did the state real vote red and blue as they said? Not necessarily. It only made the rigging work easier for Feds. It made covert job easier in fixed states because people believe it was colored by red and blue already. Feds could concentrate their resource in the key state.

The key state was Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. Feds created a situation that the output of the key state decided the result of US election.

This year people found serious election fraud in Florida and Ohio. Florida was the key state in 2000, but not the planned one this year. The manipulation would be too obvious if Feds set the same state in controversial focus for consecutive two elections.

It was because people were alarmed by election 2000 so they had a tight observation on Florida. They found unusual phenomenon. But the suspicion was eliminated quickly by Feds. Florida is not in their plan this year. It is Ohio.

Then we can see vote controversy in Ohio. Media reported vote challenges in Ohio continue. Jassie Jackson; third party candidates, Democrtics.... request a re-count. All these build up a pressure on Bush. It is a warning to him, "if you do not obey, then anytime we can overturn the result of election."

What is the ransom D.O.J. wants this time? Likely the control of the whole intelligence force of USA. D.O.J. not only control FBI, DEA, they want to control CIA too. And with it the fat budget of military intelligence.

The bill of re-organization of intelligence has been blocked in House. Bush worked hard, even pushed his GOP collegue to pass it. Once it is passed, Americans will face a terrible intelligence monster. And you can expect the freedom and civil right are threatened.

Feds build up a pending case in election. (Though Ohio is more covert one than Florida of 2000) At the purpose to squeeze most from candidate. Americans are naive to think they have a democratic system. Their mind, as well as the election, are manipulated by Inside Group through media and intelligence.
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Oh Joy! I didn't know that there was another thread by Kathaksung. I like his/her other thread better...the one that resembles the diary of a mental patient...more entertaining.
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Oh Joy! I didn't know that there was another thread by Kathaksung. I like his/her other thread better...the one that resembles the diary of a mental patient...more entertaining.
You actually read it???
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You actually read it???
Nah...I started to read the latest entry but I stopped when I got to the "My urine turned red this morning" part. I can't believe this guy has been posting those entries once a week for almost 4 years now.
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Nah...I started to read the latest entry but I stopped when I got to the "My urine turned red this morning" part. I can't believe this guy has been posting those entries once a week for almost 4 years now.
He probably does it when he gets his once a week pass from the asylum!
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Old 12-17-2004
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

Cover up rigging election (12/17)
Bush was elected not by people but inside group (5)

On 11/28 there was an article in San Jose Mercury News to justify the Florida 2004 election.

"New vote count confirms Bush's north Florida win"

"How did the Republicans win so heavily in counties stocked with Democrats?

Last week, the Miami Herald went to see for itself whether Bush's steamroll through north Florida was legitimate. Picking three counties that fit the conspiracy-theory profile - staunchly Democratic by registration, whoppingly GOP by voting - two reporters counted more than 17,000 ballots over three days.

The conclusion: No conspiracy."

The whole story is like this. Teacher accused student cheating in final exam that he copied the answer from the book. A judge was assigned for the case. He came checking the exam paper. and found the answer was right. The conclusion: No cheating.

The judge only repeated what the teacher had done - Found the answer was all right. He didn't check the accusation that the answer was copied. He didn't answer the question. How did the student who had no knowledge of the content of test could have a perfect exam result.

Some media said because it was Bush's morale value which moved voters.

What made people register as a Demo or Rep? Their moral value. People generally vote to their morale value in election if there is nothing particularly happened. What made them switch vote to the candidate of the other party? When the party he registered did some thing disappointed him. e.g. if the candidate did bad in economy which hurt voter's pocket, then they changed to choose the other one. That's not for moral value because otherwise he wouldn't register as a Demo or Rep.

But what good has Bush done in his first term? Economy is bad. Civil right eroded. The war is a opposed by most people. People lost so much in his administration. There is strong reason to have a regime change. .

Media use the moral value to justify Bush's victory. That's a gimmick. Moral value is why people registered to a party. If people is conservative he won't register as a Demo. Then the question came back again. "How did the Republicans win so heavily in counties stocked with Democrats?"

The answer is simple. Intelligence switched the votes to their favor. This is how insider group manipulate American election. They steal it by intelligence covert job. (Those who controlled intelligence, they controlled election office) And make people believe the result is reasonable by media propaganda. Even if the result contradicts strongly to the reality.
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Old 12-20-2004
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Probably my only response on this silly thread.

If anyone here is also registered at Democratic Underground they really ought to send Post #26, "How to Make A Tin Foil Hat", over there. Those folks are in big trouble and could use the help a lot.

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Old 12-27-2004
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I have some question if you can solve it for me. A destroyed face played the propadanda to its utmost.

1. Most poison were used to hurt victim's health, on the purpose to take their lives. A poison to destroy someone's face is rarely heard. Does Dioxin only influence the skin of victim's face? Or the skin of all body? Though I don't know what happened to Yushchenko's body, it seems the skin of his neck and hands are all right.

2. Yushchenko vigorously active in election. It seems the poison didn't hurt his health much.

3. Yushchenko and Western media beat the drum said that he was poisoned. It seems the poison was selected for propaganda much more than killing.

4. Motive is important in any case. Who benefit from this election if the victim having a destroyed face?

5. Is perpetrator an amateur who selected a wrong poison to let others know that Yushchenko was obviously poisoned? Or just want to have a propaganda?

Is Yushchenko a superman? Or is new KGB too incompetent? Or something else?
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I have some question if you can solve it for me. A destroyed face played the propadanda to its utmost.

1. Most poison were used to hurt victim's health, on the purpose to take their lives. A poison to destroy someone's face is rarely heard. Does Dioxin only influence the skin of victim's face? Or the skin of all body? Though I don't know what happened to Yushchenko's body, it seems the skin of his neck and hands are all right.

2. Yushchenko vigorously active in election. It seems the poison didn't hurt his health much.

3. Yushchenko and Western media beat the drum said that he was poisoned. It seems the poison was selected for propaganda much more than killing.

4. Motive is important in any case. Who benefit from this election if the victim having a destroyed face?

5. Is perpetrator an amateur who selected a wrong poison to let others know that Yushchenko was obviously poisoned? Or just want to have a propaganda?

Is Yushchenko a superman? Or is new KGB too incompetent? Or something else?
Dioxin causes a form of acne probably caused by excess growth in cell linings that leads to the production of more facial oils. I would think that it's possible that he got it on his back also as it's also a common place for acne. I heard on the news that he also suffers from liver and spleen problems and gastric ulcers.
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Old 01-06-2005
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Re: See US politics From another angle .

That still didn't answer my question. Why the perpetrator choose a poison which functioned more on propaganda than killing.

Is Yushchenko a superman who is poison proof? Or is new KGB too incompetent to pick up a poison? Or something else? Who benefit from it?
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That still didn't answer my question. Why the perpetrator choose a poison which functioned more on propaganda than killing.

Is Yushchenko a superman who is poison proof? Or is new KGB too incompetent to pick up a poison? Or something else? Who benefit from it?
For someone who's thread is titled "US politics From another angle" all I have seen from you is unanswered questions.
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