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Many of these groups are rampant with far left advocates. I hate to stereotype them but this is what you find in many of these advocacy groups. I know this is off topic but I have run across these protester types. PBS was on post filming war stories from some of the guys who had been in Iraq and Afghanistan. They had long greasy hair and they seemed to look like they had been sleeping in their clothes because of all of the wrinkles and lint that was in it. They seemed to be fairly sociable but I got the feeling that they were just using us to make some perverted story about the military. I told the guys to be careful what they told them because they were just looking for dirt. What was really shocking was that a government sponsored station would be populated by leftists. You would think that they would be more conservative or more professional at least in their appearance.
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Don't get me wrong. I love watching horse races. I love the Kentucky Derby. I'm just glad that this year is one year that I missed it. I don't think any excitement about the event would be lost if the rules were re-examined and the ages of the horses raised to allow for better development of these noble beasts' bones. Racing is a big industry. If one actually has a Derby winner, they most likely will immediately retire them after that win (and after racing at Pimlico and Belmont) at age three for future breeding, rather than take the chance of losing their value in a fatal or debilitating injury. I don't know what the ramifications of rule changes would be on the state of the current industry in an economic/job-security sense. That should be examined when considering rule changes to this sport with repsect to age.
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I would like to add just one more comment about basic horsemanship.
In most horse-related sports other than racing, if your horse shows any signs of lameness, the general rule of thumb is to immediately pull them up and investigate the cause of the lameness before continuing. Lameness can be a temporary thing (cramp, a local inflammation, etc.) or something more serious and lasting. Thus, good horsemanship involves looking after the general welfare of your horse as taking priority over a win. After recently going to a race (harness), I saw plenty of horses warming up before the race who showed signs of lameness. The jockeys/drivers would pull them up, but rather than doing a examination of the cause of that lameness, many of the jockeys/drivers would simply walk the horse for a bit, then continue with the warm-up and race, in the hope that the lameness was just a cramp. Many horses have what we call "heart" and will continue on doing what they are supposed to do, even if they have a fracture (as we've seen occur in races in the past). Thus, the better part of valor, IMO, is for the racing community not to count on signs of lameness simply being a cramp. Just don't race if the lameness (temporary or not) manifests just before a big race.
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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition
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First of all, fuck PETA.
If every member of PETA caught fire, I wouldn't piss on them to put them out. It does seem as though, lately, there has been a marked increase in the number of horses having to be put down. I don't know whay this is, but I've heard people comment on two things: track surface and horseshoes. If changes to the track surface can help alleviate the problem, I'm all for it. If racing them without horseshoes helps, I'm all for it. I don't know a lot about horses. I've ridden in the past, and will ride in the future, but those horses belong to people who know a Helluva' lot more about them than I do. But, again, as far as PETA is concerned, I wouldn't give them, or what they want, a penny's worth of consideration...
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Sunday a poor innocent horsey broke both of his ankles while racing and, in an act of mercy, was put down. How did this happen? Now we are learning that the poor innocent animal was forced to run! PETA has informed me that "Running" is not natural to horses. They'd rather be in front of a TV set with a beer, or laying down in a barn. Forcing these animals to run against each other is animal cruelty! BAN HORSE RACING!!!
 In a related incident, yesterday, a loving and innocent nine year old child who lives on my street fell down and severely scratched his tender little knee while playing hopscotch. If we banned hopscotch he wouldn't have to endure the pain of that injury! His poor little patella is not even fully developed and is subjected to this cruel and inhumane trauma!! He might be scarred for life and then all of society will have to pay the price. We need to act now!! BAN HOPSCOTCH!!!! BAN PLAYING!!! BAN FUN!!!
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If a wild horse trips, falls, breaks a leg, and dies in the wild where there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound?
There is a big deal being made about this because it happened on a big stage. It was an accident and not a murder..... I didn't see any maltreatment or abuse of the horse that led to it's death. Horses are beautiful animals... but they are just animals.
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No offense.
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However, IMO, they need to also examine the long term costs of their current practices. They are doing no genetic favors to the breed in the long run. Also, by allowing a longer period for the horse to further develop, investors will be in a better position to see what the more mature horse consistently is able to do (at the track). Right now, when investing in a racing prospect, buyers are mostly motivated by the pedigree (and, if they know a bit about conformation, they can guess if the horse will develop into the preferred conformation for racing). Investing in race horses as the auctions currently exist is about on par with betting on them at the track. It's not the wisest investment, IMO. By betting on the pedigree (and some other, more minor factors to them) in registered T-breds, one is virtually guaranteed to have a highly inbred animal. Also, the number of track rejects is high (other equestrian sports enthusiasts buy these horses very cheap, relatively). So, someone has spent a large sum of money at a racing auction, only to sell that reject at basement discounts. These are some other reasons why many wonder about the current practices in T-bred racing. (BTW, I agree with what PETA can do to itself and where they can go. They have a history of practicing terrorism.)
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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition Last edited by Si modo; 05-06-2008 at 03:38 PM.
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Considering the number of races around the country, I'd say there isn’t a "problem" vis a vis this being an issue encountered often enough to warrant any changes, it was an unfortunate tragedy. I remember clearly watching the match when Ruffian, who many believe was the greatest filly ever, broke her leg in a match race at Belmont against Foolish Pleasure, that years Derby winner, she bumped her shoulder hard at the gate but was a length ahead and the first qtr mile dropped in a scorching 22 and a fifth...she would have beat him, I am sure of it...but she was hobbled and leaning on her right side after the bump and she blew apart her right foreleg, ripping the skin etc... These horses are bred to run and love to run.....I have read many books on thoroughbred racing and the stories you read tell you so, horses are very aware of the track their status and the fact is they hate to lose and will run even in pain and after being pulled up by their jockey.
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I'm very against you and your family being raped, tortured, and murdered. Is that now somehow a good thing, too?
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