Thread: Has marijuana use changed in tha last 40 years?

Originally Posted by lutherf

I'm just curious. I was reading about Arnold's signing of the bill in CA that would make possession of less than an ounce of weed an "incident" instead of a misdemeanor and ran across this comment on another board:



I bolded the part that made me scratch my head. I mean, it's been a few years but a days use of weed, from my recollection, rarely if ever approached an ounce....even with a dozen or so friends. Am I missing something or has pot gone the way of rock and roll and devolved into some amorphous, wussified vestige of what it once was?

That guy is either the world's biggest pot head or buys the world's shittiest weed. Marijuana, as I understand it, has gotten quite a bit more potent over the decades. An eighth of an ounce should last a daily smoker about a week, less if mooching friends are involved.

Why? Aren't people still smoking it?

Baking it in brownies?

I'm no expert... not for at least 30 years... and even then not so much... but I don't think the use has changed.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

That guy is either the world's biggest pot head or buys the world's shittiest weed. Marijuana, as I understand it, has gotten quite a bit more potent over the decades. An eighth of an ounce should last a daily smoker about a week, less if mooching friends are involved.

I recall reading High Times, back in the late 70's and they were saying then, that weed was so much more potent than the 60's. Which may be correct, not really sure.

But, I am very doubtful about today's weed being more potent than the weed of the late 70's. If there are any old guys reading this, do you recall the Panama Red, the Acupulco Gold, the Oaxacan(sp?) the Hawaiian, like Puna Buds, Mouia Wowee(sp?) of the late 70's? Or real deal Thai Stick? The buzz was a different buzz than you get today with the higher end weed, which I assume comes from the strain of the 70's. I smoked my last joint, about 20 years ago, some really beautiful hydroponic weed from the North West US. Real costly, as I recall. While it tasted great, looked great, the buzz was not as good as the old Gold weed from South of the Border. Heck, if you got ahold of some good Gold back then, you could even see colors when using it. And even have mild hallucinations to boot.

I was even a grower of weed in the late 70's. Made alot of extra spending money doing it. But, I could never grow anything close to the really good weed from South America, although what I grew was indeed good stuff. Later on, I even got some seeds from Amsterdam, via a friend, and grew some Early Girl and Early Pearl. I was shocked when the still not mature plants starting budding out in July!!! I then found out what they meant by the "early". It was beautiful and very buddy, but was too young for a good buzz.

An oz per day? Don't see how that is possible, unless it was indeed what we used to call rag weed, or bunk. Really good pot goes a long way, as the buzz is intense and lasts a long time.

These days, I don't touch the stuff at all. But if it were legal, I might partake, but only on occassion. As I grew up, I figured smoking weed was not worth the risk. The legal risk that is. Heck, in these parts, you get more time for selling weed than for killing someone! Now, that is so screwed up. But it stopped be from growing it, and even smoking it.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

But, I am very doubtful about today's weed being more potent than the weed of the late 70's.

Being born in 1981, can't really make a direct comparison, myself.

From what I understand, though, as indoor growing equipment has become much, much cheaper, it's allowed for a lot more experimentation in the growing and cultivating of marijuana. Which, of course, leads to the growing of better pot.

Add in the fact that decriminalization isn't rare in the US these days, means growers can spend more time worrying about making more potent weed and less time worrying about the cops knocking down the front door.

Then again, this is just from my reading. I'm guessing the only way we'll know for sure is if you, you know, do a little experiment for us...

Originally Posted by speakeasy

being born in 1981, can't really make a direct comparison, myself.

from what i understand, though, as indoor growing equipment has become much, much cheaper, it's allowed for a lot more experimentation in the growing and cultivating of marijuana. Which, of course, leads to the growing of better pot.

Add in the fact that decriminalization isn't rare in the us these days, means growers can spend more time worrying about making more potent weed and less time worrying about the cops knocking down the front door.

Then again, this is just from my reading. I'm guessing the only way we'll know for sure is if you, you know, do a little experiment for us...

1981?


H8 u

Originally Posted by pramjockey

1981?


H8 u

Hey, I turn 30 next year, that's not a position anyone wants to be in.

I really wish they'd stop pussy-footing around legalization and just legalize the stuff already. The added revenue from taxation, the money said from frivolous criminal charges, not to mention the un-American policy of banning something that only has to do with with one's self is more than enough reason to go for full legalization. As much as I appreciate stepping in the "right direction", it's absurd that we have to be so ginger in this stride at all.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Hey, I turn 30 next year, that's not a position anyone wants to be in.

Actually, I'd kill to be 30 again....was in the best shape of my life and head the best job I've ever had(not the most money but definitely the best "benefits"!)..... I had hair too.

It's been a long, long time since I've gotten high with any degree of regularity, but I seem to recall an ounce of pot; even shitty pot, lasting more than a couple of days...

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Hey, I turn 30 next year, that's not a position anyone wants to be in.

Ahhhh... to be 30 again... You know, that's 3 wives ago, right?

The potency of marijuana changed drastically in the early eighties, and stabilized in the mid nineties; the potency of "good" weed was the same in 2009 as it was in 1999. This is mainly due to the effects of indoor cultivation, which as noted did not begin in earnest until the eighties. And if it floats your boat, you can still find lower quality pot with seeds and stems and all for very cheap, it's just most people prefer high grade sinsemilla. It's also worth noting that in many areas of the south, one cannot find high grade pot, and in effect smoke the same stuff that people were puffing on in the 70s.

For me 1/16th of an ounce (or $20 worth) lasts a little over a month. I have a couple of friends who can smoke 1/8 of an ounce in about a week, but that's pretty extreme in my opinion, roughly the equivalent of smoking 2 packs a day.

Edit:
So in other words, yes, the OP is correct. 1oz is no where near 1 day's supply (even for a regular smoker, 1oz is probably more like a year's supply). In fact I doubt very many people could actually smoke an oz in a day, even with some huge reward as motivation (like if someone offered me a $1M for smoking 1oz in 24 hours, I doubt I could do it. The most I was ever able to smoke in 1 day was nearly 1/8th of an ounce over a few hours in 9th grade; simply to see how much I could smoke. It's odd though, it's not like Alcohol where you get sick, or something, I just remember being so high that inhaling from the pipe, while lighting the bowl was just too awkward to do, so I zoned off watching TV, and then had no desire to continue smoking).

Originally Posted by phungus

The potency of marijuana changed drastically in the early eighties, and stabilized in the mid nineties; the potency of "good" weed was the same in 2009 as it was in 1999. This is mainly due to the effects of indoor cultivation, which as noted did not begin in earnest until the eighties. And if it floats your boat, you can still find lower quality pot with seeds and stems and all for very cheap, it's just most people prefer high grade sinsemilla. It's also worth noting that in many areas of the south, one cannot find high grade pot, and in effect smoke the same stuff that people were puffing on in the 70s.

For me 1/16th of an ounce (or $20 worth) lasts a little over a month. I have a couple of friends who can smoke 1/8 of an ounce in about a week, but that's pretty extreme in my opinion, roughly the equivalent of smoking 2 packs a day.

Edit:
So in other words, yes, the OP is correct. 1oz is no where near 1 day's supply (even for a regular smoker, 1oz is probably more like a year's supply). In fact I doubt very many people could actually smoke an oz in a day, even with some huge reward as motivation (like if someone offered me a $1M for smoking 1oz in 24 hours, I doubt I could do it. The most I was ever able to smoke in 1 day was nearly 1/8th of an ounce over a few hours in 9th grade; simply to see how much I could smoke. It's odd though, it's not like Alcohol where you get sick, or something, I just remember being so high that inhaling from the pipe, while lighting the bowl was just too awkward to do, so I zoned off watching TV, and then had no desire to continue smoking).

Am I reading this correctly? You spent $20 for 1/16th oz of pot? Good grief!! Back in the day (70's, upstate NY) we'd get a lid of good stuff for that much.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Hey, I turn 30 next year, that's not a position anyone wants to be in.

/guts speakeasy like a trout