Visit the Archives for U.S. Politics Online -- U.S. Politics Online . net


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21

Thread: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

  1. #1
    Porras's Avatar
    Porras is offline Secretary of State
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    4,108
    Rep Power
    0

    I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    I'm a little bit of a fatty. Six feet tall and 210 pounds.

    The equation to determine BMI is kg/m^2. For me, this means 95/3.3489. That's a BMI of 28.36 with the healthy weight scale being 18.5-25.

    Now since I'm a bit of a fatty, you don't immediately notice the problem with the BMI until you look at what I'd have to lose to get to the bottom of the healthy range. 3.3489*18.5. That's 61.95 kg or 136 lbs. Basically that means I'd have to lose every ounce of fat on my body and probably every ounce of muscle. I'm pretty sure that's not healthy.

    Does anyone else see a problem with this?
    All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
    -Eurosocialist

  2. #2
    ThorHammer's Avatar
    ThorHammer is offline Vice President
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Twin Cities
    Posts
    9,846
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    You have hit the problem with the BMI on the head: it doesn't determine health. The formula doesn't do a damn thing to determine the condition of one's body, as it cannot tell the difference between bone, muscle, fat, etc....

    Interesting article on the BMI: Top 10 Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus : NPR
    "The spirit must be the firmer, the heart the bolder,
    courage must be the greater as our might fails"

  3. #3
    Speakeasy's Avatar
    Speakeasy is offline Proud Virginian Administrator!
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    43,014
    Rep Power
    206

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Oh, Jesus Christ, not another math thread...
    "Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us -- and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along." -Carl Sagan

    For 5 little cents per day, you can view the forums w/o advertising, search the forums endlessly, feel good about keeping this place up and running, among the other benefits that are offered to contributing members.

  4. #4
    Evil_inKarlate's Avatar
    Evil_inKarlate is offline Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    1,120
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    It wasn't BMI in particular, but I had a similar experience when the ex-wife tried to get me to go to Weight Watchers with her - They wanted me to get to a weight Below what I weighed in high school. I'm admittedly chunky now, but in HS I was on the track team and if anything a little bit on the skinny side IMO.

    Looking at BMI, my HS weight would have been at the high end of 'healthy'. And I'm not even sure some of my skinny friends (at the time) would have managed to hit the low end of healthy. The healthiest I've ever been (a summer I worked an off shift and so had time to swim laps, plus was eating healthy) would still have been over their 'healthy' range.
    Today's forecast: Government corruption.
    Tomorrow's forecast: 100% chance of more 'politics as usual'

    Maybe it's finally time to vote Libertarian

  5. #5
    Jefe's Avatar
    Jefe is offline President
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Gun Wavin' New Haven
    Posts
    16,423
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Porras View Post
    I'm a little bit of a fatty. Six feet tall and 210 pounds.

    The equation to determine BMI is kg/m^2. For me, this means 95/3.3489. That's a BMI of 28.36 with the healthy weight scale being 18.5-25.

    Now since I'm a bit of a fatty, you don't immediately notice the problem with the BMI until you look at what I'd have to lose to get to the bottom of the healthy range. 3.3489*18.5. That's 61.95 kg or 136 lbs. Basically that means I'd have to lose every ounce of fat on my body and probably every ounce of muscle. I'm pretty sure that's not healthy.

    Does anyone else see a problem with this?
    Six feet tall and 136 lbs doesn't sound very healthy to me. That's pushing anorexia territory.

  6. #6
    MattInFla's Avatar
    MattInFla is offline Legend of USPO!
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    39,844
    Rep Power
    1070

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    I went to school with a guy who got kicked out of the army because his BMI was too high.

    This guy was a health nut. He was just massive. Huge ass arms, huge legs, lifted and worked out constantly.

    But his BMI was too high, and out he went.

    BMI in and of itself is not a useful measure.

    Matt
    Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. - Senator Barack Obama, March 2006 (Congressional Record, p S2237)

    Does this post contain speech critical of the President? Report it to attackwatch.com. It's your duty as an American!

    I'm kind of busy today, so if you could go ahead and offend yourself on my behalf, that would be great....

  7. #7
    Traveler is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    30,489
    Rep Power
    921

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jefe View Post
    Six feet tall and 136 lbs doesn't sound very healthy to me. That's pushing anorexia territory.


    I am 5'7 and between 85 and 100 lbs these days. I would say some people are just built small/aren't very heavy. Its not neccessarily an eating disorder or anything.

  8. #8
    Jefe's Avatar
    Jefe is offline President
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Gun Wavin' New Haven
    Posts
    16,423
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post


    I am 5'7 and between 85 and 100 lbs these days. I would say some people are just built small/aren't very heavy. Its not neccessarily an eating disorder or anything.
    Sorry, Trav, didn't mean to imply that everyone on the lighter side has some kind of eating disorder! I was just thinking out loud.. someone 6 foot tall @ 136 lbs would be pretty damn skinny.. compared to me, anyway. But I'm getting pretty damn fat (6'3" 245 lbs), so I should probably just shut up now, lol..

  9. #9
    Traveler is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    30,489
    Rep Power
    921

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    No worries. I didnt take it personally but when a lot of people see me they suddenly think "wow he must be annorexic" for some reason.

    But don't worry you have a slight advantage being 6'3 and 245 lbs - you can say whatever you want and and i certainly won't be back chatting you given our size difference.

    *Hides away in corner*

  10. #10
    Porras's Avatar
    Porras is offline Secretary of State
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    4,108
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post


    I am 5'7 and between 85 and 100 lbs these days. I would say some people are just built small/aren't very heavy. Its not neccessarily an eating disorder or anything.
    I don't think I've ever known anyone that small. Here I am wishing I was only twice your weight.
    All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
    -Eurosocialist

  11. #11
    Traveler is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    30,489
    Rep Power
    921

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Yeah but don't forget you have almost half a foot in height over me as well. See at my height my weight is not so bad, at your height that would probably be a bit too low.

    I guess ultimately the weight is not the biggest concern, so long as you're healthy. There are people who weigh as much as me who literally have the worst lifestyles possible. There are some closer to your weight who are the beacon of good health. Honestly i wouldn't worry about it if you are healthy and feel good.

  12. #12
    Porras's Avatar
    Porras is offline Secretary of State
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    4,108
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Oh, I'm definitely not healthy, but the cause and effect of weight versus health are reversed.
    All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
    -Eurosocialist

  13. #13
    Traveler is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    30,489
    Rep Power
    921

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Ahh...

    I've never really known anybody personally to suffer from it but they do say a lot of excess weight gain can be for medical related issues (thyroid problems and what not). I have never once taken the BMI seriously as i would be too low to even make it on the thing apparently but that doesn't worry me at all.

    Have you spoken to a doctor about some of the concerns?

  14. #14
    Porras's Avatar
    Porras is offline Secretary of State
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    4,108
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    Not recently. My weight isn't directly related to my medical problems. (I'm only thirty pounds heavier than when I was fit) I have an orthopoedic condition which initially led to giving up my physically active job to delivering pizzas and then led to not even doing that. Really easy to pack on the pounds that way.
    All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
    -Eurosocialist

  15. #15
    Disillusioned_1's Avatar
    Disillusioned_1 is offline Vice President
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Montana
    Posts
    9,143
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: I'm beginning to understand why teenagers have body image issues.

    I'm 6'5" and 215lbs, the Nintendo Wii (the Wii Fit program does a BMI calculation) always shows me at the bottom of the overweight range (barely overweight). Your calculation would put me at 24.5 BMI which would seem to be in the 'normal' range. Truth be told, I'd rather be about 195-200 lbs, but I barely work out so I'm not too bothered by my weight. The heaviest I've ever been was about 225lbs. In high school I was a freaking stick 6'4" and 175 lbs. The healthiest I ever felt was when I was about ~195lbs in my 20's when I was very physically active.

    For me, College put on 10 lbs (worked out a fair amount).
    Having a long-term girlfriend helped me put on 10 lbs (comfort zone I guess)
    Getting married (to the girl above) made me put on 10 lbs (more comfort zone)
    Having kids made me put on 10 lbs (less active, and eating their leftovers).

    I think people's bodies tend to gravitate towards a value, and unless you're a huge over-eater or fitness freak you're gonna stay near that value.
    Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Is it a beginning of the fourth Rich
    By caledonia in forum International Politics
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: 08-24-2011, 05:31 AM
  2. Body Image Pressures on Women in America
    By Occam's Razor in forum Humanities Issues
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 03-19-2011, 12:48 PM
  3. Food Staples Beginning to Run Out on Egypt...
    By Sunshine in forum International Politics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-30-2011, 04:35 PM
  4. Blacks damage their own image
    By chassisman in forum Popular Crime Stories and Trials
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 07-10-2010, 02:40 PM
  5. Is this the beginning of a more civil political conversation?
    By compote_tom in forum Culture & Media Issues
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 04-08-2010, 07:57 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •