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Reply With QuoteNo, and how about their taxed enough already thing, how nutz is that?
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Donald Trump, I thought, rather bravely took a stand on the birth certificate issue and, surprisingly, the president caved when he had not before.
But that isn't good enough for some people. The Tea Party, in Arizona has convinced the local Sheriff there is cause to investigate the authenticity of that long from document.
Agreed, if it did prove to be faked, it would be a scandal of historic proportions and probably lead to annulment of every bill OweBama signed.
I just have a hard time buying into the idea of a fake birth certificate. It require a massive conspiracy with too many people involved who would stand to benefit in the millions if they revealed it.
MARICOPA COUNTY, Ariz. – At the request of tea party leaders in Arizona, famed Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has promised to investigate the validity of Barack Obama's purported long-form birth certificate in a determination of the president's eligibility for the county's 2012 election ballot.
Tea party leaders in Surprise, Ariz., met with Arpaio and WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi Thursday morning to express concern that a fake birth certificate would be used to document the president's eligibility to run in Maricopa County, where Arpaio is the chief law enforcement officer.
Arpaio's tough crackdown on illegal immigration has made him a national figure.
At a one-hour meeting in Arpaio's office, the tea party leaders presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech by Corsi the previous night. Corsi, author of a best-selling book challenging Obama's eligibility, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", presented evidence from numerous computer-imaging specialists who believe the document presented by the White House April 27 is not authentic.
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"Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it." Henry David Thoreau
Legend of USPO
No, and how about their taxed enough already thing, how nutz is that?
Take a good hard look, it's coming.
President
It's a call for national suicide, which looks pretty crazy to the reality based community.....Originally Posted by chassisman
Vice President
Just because they're not the sharpest tacks in the box doesn't mean we have to think they're crazy.
Or maybe this:
Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Yet while some say the Tea Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," most Tea Party supporters - 52 percent - say their taxes are fair, the poll shows.
Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.
Vice President
Really, hows all that spending working out for us?
Legend of USPO
Obama Is Not A Keynesian, He's An American! - YouTube
Just because they're not the sharpest tacks in the box doesn't mean we have to think they're crazy.
Or maybe this:
Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
I love these sharp tacks..........The hysterical lard ass woman is the best! Please note near the end, old guys rule.
Secretary of Defense
It is funny, but apropos of absolutely nothing.Obama Is Not A Keynesian, He's An American! - YouTube
I love these sharp tacks..........
The average conservative voter is just as clueless.
I ♣ Ideologues!
U.S. Senator
Never over estimate the intelligence of the voter
"Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it." Henry David Thoreau
Citizen
A fake birth certificate? I find it hard to believe in this day of unlimited ability to communicate, and investigate, that someone who worked for those plutocrats who hate Obama, could not find evidence of an absolute nature. I am not a fan of Obama, although I stupidly voted for him, but come on, how asinine of his opponents to grab hold of this for so long, and when it looks to be resolved, some shmuck of a 3rd rate politician wastes the time, energy, and funds on another quest for the "Holy Grail" of presidential destuction.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
National suicide? So now we don't speak truth to power because it's national suicide? I am assuming that you think the Nixon thing would have been better left alone?
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher
U.S. Senator
Just because they're not the sharpest tacks in the box doesn't mean we have to think they're crazy.
Ah, its pretty clear they support a green agenda and all that. Obviously they have been using "herbal" remedies.
"Any fool can make a rule. And every fool will mind it." Henry David Thoreau
President
Setting an arbitrary limit on something like taxes, when all the evidence points to taxes being too low, is national suicide.
Why do so many advanced countries have higher tax rates than we do, and why did the country seem to be so much better off when taxes were higher?
Where is the logic that sets a tax rate so developed that you are willing to chisel that rate into the stone of the Constitution?
Secretary of State
Agreed, $14.5 trillion and counting is "a call for national suicide".
Oh wait, you haven't the faintest idea about what is really happening, and all you care about is keeping things patched together until you're dead, because you don't give a rat's ass about anyone else after you're gone.
Carry on, oh king of the short squeeze.
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Isaac H Tiffany (1819)
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
The teabaggers, genuine though many of them may be, have certainly created problems for the Republicans at this point.
By acting like an angry mob, they radicalized (or got radical Republicans off the couch) a pretty sizable segment of the Republican party. These are the guys booing at the debates at things like questions about DADT from a soldier or applauding when someone suggests someone who cant pay for their medical care should be allowed to die. Now that these people feel comfortable enough to participate in the electoral process without looking like COMPLETE lunatics, they're going to splinter their party.
Because they're so vocal and make such a scene, candidates feel like they have to cater to these people. Except you cant cater to them without torquing-off moderate Republicans and moderate swing voters. If a candidate tries to appeal to both these radical Republicans AND moderates, he makes a poor showing to both and looks populist. What we have now are candidates that are trying to pull a Bush and carry the nomination based on a small (but highly motivated) number of base groups. Bachmann is riding the teabagger, social conservative, and evangelical horses pretty hardcore and doesnt seem real interested in reaching out to the middle.
That's not a winning strategy; radicals dont win elections, especially in the US. It's moderates, the middle, and swing voters that make or break an election. Only exceptionally rarely do you carry an election by relying on one or two bases that are way off to the left or right, Bush won his first election largely on the Evangelical Christian base and even that he only won because of the Electoral College (He lost the popular vote). What candidates like Bachmann (and Palin if she decides to run) will do is suck votes away from stronger candidates that have an actual chance of beating Obama. They also poison the atmosphere against the Republicans by pushing the vital swing voters and moderates away from the Republicans entirely.
Perry is a prime example; he's trying to play both the far right and the center right, his fellow Republicans dont seem to be accepting that very well.
When I gave food to the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why they are poor, they called me a Communist.
-Bishop Hélder Câmara
"I like to pay taxes. With them, I buy civilization"
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Vice President
EVERYONE knew this would happen, INCLUDING Trumps and even Obama himself. There is no way in hell the birthers will accept ANYTHING as proof because, in their minds, it is simply impossible for God to let a black run anything, (it's in the Bible you know) and even if God himself came down and said, in a giant thundering voice that all in the world could hear, "...you're all a bunch goddamed lunatics, he was born in America, I say so, and your bigotry means none of you will go to heaven"..." they'd all just wonder how much George Soros and/or the Illuminati had paid off God. IMO Obama shouldn't have caved in to Trumps at all, ever, or maybe saved it as an October surprise to make the teabaggers look even more idiotic on the eve of the election
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