Thread: Occupy Wall Street protesters in comparison to the Tea Party movement

I think the OWS speaks with one voice ... dissatisfaction with the status quo.

Originally Posted by michael h

I think the OWS speaks with one voice ... dissatisfaction with the status quo.

If that's your opinion--you didn't listen too--or watch the video's I just linked.

Originally Posted by Oreo

We have protest occupiers on Wall Street and in many states and towns across this country--and all of them--in my opinion speaking a different language. You can ask 5 different Wall Street occupiers what it is that troubles them-or what they are protesting--and you will get 5 different answers.

Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking of the teabaggers.

The Tea Party movement in this country--has no leaders--but you have MILLIONS of Tea Party members

Try again. 70,000 is not "millions"

that speak with one voice--no matter which state--which city--which town--no matter where you find them through-out this country.

Yes, they all recite the same three lines and none of them can explain them.

And therein is the difference between the Tea Party movement in this country and the Occupiers of Wall Street.

Strictly speaking, there is no difference.

The Occupy Wall Street people are an angry mob. Yes they have some direction, they have similar grievances, and parts of them are directed, but by and large it's a large group of angry people.

The teabaggers are no different. They're an angry mob that managed to rage their way into short-lived success and are now pretending that they were an organized movement all along.

The groups are of the same breed, just different plumage.

They are both angry mobs, the difference is the OWS wasn't promoted by FOX news.

Originally Posted by goober

They are both angry mobs, the difference is the OWS wasn't promoted by FOX news.

That's about the long and the short of it.

So a grassroots group that managed to hand Democrats their largest defeat in modern history, with no violence, is the same as a disorganized mob that runs around naked,defecates on police cars, has hundreds arrested, has sex in public, and is bought and paid for by the likes of George Soros, are the same? No wonder the Left is losing elections left and right.

Originally Posted by stretch351c

So a grassroots group that managed to hand Democrats their largest defeat in modern history, with no violence, is the same as a disorganized mob that runs around naked,defecates on police cars, has hundreds arrested, has sex in public, and is bought and paid for by the likes of George Soros, are the same? No wonder the Left is losing elections left and right.

What's more to pity, they think they are right about it, and don't see where they are so wrong.

IMO, I can see similarities between the tea partiers and the OWSers. Tea Partiers decry the government having too much power. OWSers decry corporations having too much power and too much influence with the government that the tea partiers think is too big and powerful.

In other words, the two groups really aren't as far apart in some regards as a lot of the left-right catalogers would like to think. Both groups are effectively protesting because they feel ordinary people have lost influence and everything is dominated by large powers (corporate or government).

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking of the teabaggers.


Try again. 70,000 is not "millions"


Yes, they all recite the same three lines and none of them can explain them.


Strictly speaking, there is no difference.

The Occupy Wall Street people are an angry mob. Yes they have some direction, they have similar grievances, and parts of them are directed, but by and large it's a large group of angry people.

The teabaggers are no different. They're an angry mob that managed to rage their way into short-lived success and are now pretending that they were an organized movement all along.

The groups are of the same breed, just different plumage.

Then if they're just 70K--you'll have to explain why it is that Herman Cain is ahead in several polls over RNC favorite Mitt Romney--LOL You see that's the POWER of the Tea Party Movement in this country--and they're a hell of a lot more of them than 70K. There's approximately 70K Tea Party members in Denver, Colorado alone.

2 million tea-partiers.jpg

This is just 2 million of them.

Originally Posted by stretch351c

So a grassroots group that managed to hand Democrats their largest defeat in modern history

Except it wasnt the teabaggers driving that effort and it was the first election after a Democratic presidential election. The first election after a presidential election usually goes very well for whoever didnt get elected, it's been that way since the Civil War.

with no violence is the same as a disorganized mob that runs around naked,defecates on police cars, has hundreds arrested, has sex in public

Geriatrics are usually so much more civil

and is bought and paid for by the likes of George Soros, are the same? No wonder the Left is losing elections left and right.

I'd like to see some proof that this group was "bought and paid for" by ANYONE. Yes there are people who have organized groups of people to go, but the entire group itself is a hodgepodge of smaller groups and individuals. No one person or group directs anything.

Originally Posted by Oreo

Then if they're just 70K--you'll have to explain why it is that Herman Cain is ahead in several polls over RNC favorite Mitt Romney--LOL You see that's the POWER of the Tea Party Movement in this country--and they're a hell of a lot more of them than 70K.

An angry mob is very powerful, I agree. However I dont agree that Cain can attribute his short-lived success to the teabaggers and I dont see any justification for drawing the conclusion that Cain's success is due to the teabaggers as there is no way to separate them out from the other voters in the polls.

It might interest you to know that the teabaggers have, quite single-handedly, severely damaged their Republican party. They may have even handed Obama a second term.

And yes, 70,000 is accurate.

This is just 2 million of them.

Funny that that picture only seems to show up on right-wing websites and...nowhere else...

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Except it wasnt the teabaggers driving that effort and it was the first election after a Democratic presidential election. The first election after a presidential election usually goes very well for whoever didnt get elected, it's been that way since the Civil War.


Geriatrics are usually so much more civil


I'd like to see some proof that this group was "bought and paid for" by ANYONE. Yes there are people who have organized groups of people to go, but the entire group itself is a hodgepodge of smaller groups and individuals. No one person or group directs anything.


An angry mob is very powerful, I agree. However I dont agree that Cain can attribute his short-lived success to the teabaggers and I dont see any justification for drawing the conclusion that Cain's success is due to the teabaggers as there is no way to separate them out from the other voters in the polls.

It might interest you to know that the teabaggers have, quite single-handedly, severely damaged their Republican party. They may have even handed Obama a second term.

And yes, 70,000 is accurate.


Funny that that picture only seems to show up on right-wing websites and...nowhere else...

There are approximately 70K Tea Party Members in Denver, Colorado--alone. The Tea Party movement in this country is the ONLY political bi-partisan group in this country--consisting of republicans--democrats--and independents. 40% which consists of democrats and independents.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...s-dem-or-indie

And if November 2010 didn't tell you anything--after Democrats got dealt an historic 70 YEAR loss--then God help you in 2012. They are extremely powerful--and a real threat to both parties--just ask Mitt Romney tonight--LOL

And they did it too--and plan on doing it again in 2012. The Tea Party movement has changed the political landscape of this country--for decades to come.

Originally Posted by Oreo

There are approximately 70K Tea Party Members in Denver, Colorado--alone.

Proof?

The Tea Party movement in this country is the ONLY political bi-partisan group in this country--consisting of republicans--democrats--and independents. 40% which consists of democrats and independents.

Then why are all your political representatives except 1 Republican?

And if November 2010 didn't tell you anything--after Democrats got dealt an historic 70 YEAR loss.

This has been explained time and time again.

They are extremely powerful--and a real threat to both parties--just ask Mitt Romney tonight--LOL

That's not a good thing. Extremists tend to get edged out in politics.

And they did it too--and plan on doing it again in 2012. The Tea Party movement has changed the political landscape of this country--for decades to come.

If they have, it isnt in their favor. They had short-term gains and they could have kept them and done well, had the Republicans not turned into the party of no.

Originally Posted by Oreo

And if November 2010 didn't tell you anything--after Democrats got dealt an historic 70 YEAR loss--then God help you in 2012.

That basically means nothing since they had their biggest wins in 2006 and 2008 in at least that long of a time-frame. In other words, 2006 and 2008 were high tides for the dems (mainly because the GOP was so shitty), and thus could be expected to recede significantly in 2010 and probably in 2012 too. Don't confuse that with the GOP being good. Both parties are shit, voters just have 2-4 year memories about which party screwed things up the worst.