Thread: What is Occupy All About? What Do They Want?

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

What percentage of Tea Partyers show up at rallies?

Try reading what I typed. I pointed out it is tricky guessing how many people truly support a movement when folks can really only do so by keeping tabs of what can be observed in public gatherings.

Originally Posted by John Drake

Again, like I asked CBM (and his reply was basically that he had just pulled it from his ass but it was right because he said so) where and when have these rapes taken place? If there are 41,000 of them you surely should be able to find ONE that comes from a credible source and is a fairly credible accusation

here's one, it took a couple seconds to find it.
Tonye Iketubosin Arrested At Occupy Wall Street For Alleged Rape and Sexual Assault

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Is there even a question about that? The platform is about being against corporations, demanding free education -- while complaining that the education you get doesn't get you a job, and railing against the rich. And the manner of protest is to "live in" a public space, defecating on cop cars and urinating on people. Sounds like the typical left to me.

ahoy C-B-M,

thats actually incorrect, matey. the primary goal 'o this nascent movement be to get the corruptin' influence 'o money outta politics.

congress and the presidency ought not be fer sale.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy C-B-M,

thats actually incorrect, matey. the primary goal 'o this nascent movement be to get the corruptin' influence 'o money outta politics.congress and the presidency ought not be fer sale.

- MeadHallPirate

Wow, and you got that from where? I've never heard of any organized laid out platform from the tents in NY. Maybe you can post up some real back up to your comment. And if your claim is right they are protesting the wrong people, "wall street" instead they should be protesting the Whitehorse. It is the Whitehorse and congress that is letting any influence into politics. Example; if you own a home you can let in who you want and keep out those you don't. In your claim of the tents you are saying they are protesting the people that want into your house rather than you to keep them out. Now tell me how stupid are they.

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

Becasue becasue it's not the truth. The Fox news talking heads did not create the Tea Party movement they rode it hard for ratings.

You can try to deny it all you want, but it is quite obvious to any impartial observer that Fox News largely created and blatantly promoted the Tea Party for its own political agenda. This is certainly no secret except to those who wish to ignore the obvious.

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

Yes the lefties are worse they have been subverting liberty and liberal movements for years. I know where the foxoids are coming from they are pretty f'n transparent being of weak and shabby guile as they are. Socialist, Commies and Marxists will lie and scheme and undermine every movement they can parasite in their bids for power while pretending they are doing it for the people. I recall my father throwing a commie agitator out our home during a meeting to unionize where my father worked, oddly enough the commie only let folks know motives and methods when in secret meetings, otherwise he was red white and blue and fighting for the American worker.

So your point is the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree?

The "lefties" certainly pose no more threat or menace to this country than the far-right does, and they represent about the same percentage of Americans. The Cold War is over. There really was no dire socialist or communist threat. It was largely concocted by essentially the same group that continue to propagandize and lie for their own obvious political agenda. Fearmongering is nothing new in this country. What is surprising is how gullible some people are that the same disinformation campaign can be reused so frequently without them even becoming aware of it.

Are regarding Fox News "weak and shabby guile" is concerned, they have been spewing essentially the same nonsense since their inception:

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

You can try to deny it all you want, but it is quite obvious to any impartial observer that Fox News largely created and blatantly promoted the Tea Party for its own political agenda. This is certainly no secret except to those who wish to ignore the obvious.

Try paying attention here: I agree Fox news hyped the tea party for it's own profit. It did not create the movement.

Originally Posted by Forplay

Wow, and you got that from where?

ahoy Forplay,

well, i drove down to the OWS protest in Charlotte NC, read thar literature and spoke to some folks thar.

i heard and saw it meself.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by JDJarvis

Try paying attention here: I agree Fox news hyped the tea party for it's own profit. It did not create the movement.

Try paying attention here. The Tea Party was essentially nothing until Fox News started hyping it for their own obvious political agenda, which was almost immediately.

Would you kindly stop trying to derail this thread with the Tea Party / Fox comments?

The topic of the thread is what the Occupy movement is about and what they want.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Formaldehyde

Try paying attention here. The Tea Party was essentially nothing until Fox News started hyping it for their own obvious political agenda, which was almost immediately.

Gee... keep ignoring reality all you want. Lies will not change reality only how the gullible want to perceive it. Fox news has an agenda...to get people to watch their broadcasts. What do you imagine the agendas of CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN and such are? How has their agendas shaped the news coverage of the OWS movement and it's agenda?

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Forplay,

well, i drove down to the OWS protest in Charlotte NC, read thar literature and spoke to some folks thar.

i heard and saw it meself.

- MeadHallPirate

Well then, they are protesting the wrong people, "wall street" instead they should be protesting the Whitehorse. It is the Whitehorse and congress that is letting any influence into politics. Example; if you own a home you can let in who you want and keep out those you don't. In your claim of the tents you are saying they are protesting the people that want into your house rather than you to keep them out. Now tell me how stupid are they.

Originally Posted by Forplay

Well then, they are protesting the wrong people, "wall street" instead they should be protesting the Whitehorse. It is the Whitehorse and congress that is letting any influence into politics. Example; if you own a home you can let in who you want and keep out those you don't. In your claim of the tents you are saying they are protesting the people that want into your house rather than you to keep them out. Now tell me how stupid are they.

ahoy Forplay,

yer takin' the name 'o thar protest too literally....it would be like me sayin', "why do they want to talk about havin' tea?" regardin' the Tea Party, matey.

they be protestin' the influence 'o big monies on congress and the white house.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Forplay,

yer takin' the name 'o thar protest too literally....it would be like me sayin', "why do they want to talk about havin' tea?" regardin' the Tea Party, matey.

they be protestin' the influence 'o big monies on congress and the white house.

- MeadHallPirate

Do you understand anything I said? If they are protesting big monines on congress, then they should not be protesting wall street but the Whitehorse and congress. Do you not understand it is congress that allows this money to be given to them, and it is the people that vote in the people in congress. It is the Whitehorse and congress that is the only entity that has the power to stop accepting anything from anyone. Now do you get it?