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    The American Conservative (Continuing Series)

    Another in a series of Midcan's explications of the American Conservative (AC)

    We already know the AC repeats the same cliches about government, taxes, markets, the founders, the Constitution, and freedom over and over again, but what makes them tick, what drives their souls to such simplistic worship of empty abstractions? Is it just a self centered bubble mentality that assumes their limited knowledge is all there is to life? Is it too hard for them to step outside this bubble and see the world for what it is? A world more complicated than their simple finger pointing?

    Liberals and other commentators miss the point when they laugh at the AC constant repetition of glorious abstractions that never were or when the AC accuses the liberal or the progressive of the very failures that are at the heart of conservative inaction and their worship of words. In these repeated cliches are contained a code of language that allows an easy categorization of life, a simple view that removed the complexity which is in all of life but was once perfect if only for .... it is this piece that contains the crux of the conservative.

    So what's on the menu for today but a return to the time of 'Leave it to Beaver' in which June perfectly coiffured with two boys, practiced rhythm, for surely June did not practice birth control, the horror of it. While it is unfair to point out the dream world of 'Beaver,' it does present an interesting historical commentary, imagine yourself at that time in history, unwed and pregnant, or gay, or black...which brings me to today's insight into the American Conservative, their recent obsession with birth control.

    American conservatives gush over life, they proudly claim they are pro life, imagine them raising ten or fifteen of the little angels on a Walmart worker salary and you've gone too far and introduced reality into their dreamworld. Ask the AC to support life in more than just words, and you are faced with the paradox that is at the core of the American Conservative, they only care when the idea remains an abstraction. Ask the AC to support the children they love so much at conception with early childhood support, or lunch programs, or with education, and you've gone too far. Abstractions then turn to sticks.

    So why is this? The answer is simple, the American conservative is never for doing things, they are always against doing things. What you say? Quite simple, if real equality existed, or fairness existed, or a level playing field existed, the AC would be lost, for it is privilege and power that is at the heart of this empty worship of ideas. Their empty ideas do nothing and everything, for they support the status quo, and it is the status quo the AC loves. It is why a woman's right to healthcare in the form of contraception or even equal pay is taboo. Change challenges the way things are. If you doubt this consider that no one brought up Viagra as healthcare. Men must still be in charge.

    When Mitt Romney said recently it is their turn, he really meant, go away, go back, that is stay where you belong, for privilege only rests with us, the elite, and fairness for all is not something we believe in. The American conservative believes only in power and privilege and they fight to keep it that way. Again if in doubt consider the early years of the Clinton administration and now the Obama administration.

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    Mr. American Conservative

    He is a new breed of Republican conservative. He says that he supports the Constitution. In this, he is a “strict constructionist,” and although he has never read the Constitution, he knows what it says; and he doesn’t need any Supreme Court to tell him what it says. “It says what I say it says,” he says.

    He is a proponent of that reactionary movement that lauds itself as the “moral majority”, for he considers himself to be a person of high moral character and principles. He is also quick to condemn anyone whose character and principles do not exactly coincide with his own.

    He professes to be deeply religious, but he would be pressed to expound in depth on the articles of his faith; suffice it to say that he believes in the literal truth of holy scripture - whatever that means. “I got no truck with that modern mo’rality,” he says dogmatically. But he has no qualms about mixing his “old-time religion” with present-day politics. He believes, he says, in freedom of religion - so long as it’s the right religion. “It’s got ‘In God We Trust’ right there on the dollar,” he says as though making his point.

    He is steadfast in his convictions, even when he is wrong. His cardinal virtues are arrogance, bigotry, and uncompromising stupidity. He knows what’s right is right; and no one dare tell him it’s not. “The law’s the law!” he says, pounding his fist for emphasis. Besides this, he is ill-tempered and intolerant of others. He gives short-shrift to his judgments of others, and he has no patience for any exceptions to the rule.

    He is a staunch advocate for educational reform. He demands that “Creationism” be taught in the schools - none of that evilution monkey business for him! - and that the Bible be used as the text for biology class. “That’ll learn’em,” he says self-righteously.

    He is a firm believer in family values, although he himself was just recently divorced for the second time. (This is a sore subject with him.) And he is absolutely against abortion; there can be no excuse for abortion - not under any circumstances. (Curiously, he has a great number of excuses for why he has not paid his child support; but that is another matter.)

    He has many other qualities too numerous to mention, but when all is said and done, he believes - honest to God - that he is a good person, and that Jesus loves him. Need must this be so - for Christ’s sake - for no one else does.
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    I like what President Harry S. Truman said in 1948:

    "Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
    President Harry S. Truman
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    Re: The American Conservative (Continuing Series)

    I sure hope you guys know more about fornication than you do about conservatives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    I sure hope you guys know more about fornication than you do about conservatives...
    Conservatism is the manifestation of parental suppression as a youth. It creates a view of the world based on fear, bias and insecurity.

    Q: What is conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

    Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

    These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.
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    Re: The American Conservative (Continuing Series)

    The real difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are those that are too liberal for their own good; while conservatives are those that are only liberal for their own good. Either way you want to look at it, neither come out looking very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Conservatism is the manifestation of parental suppression as a youth. It creates a view of the world based on fear, bias and insecurity.

    Q: What is conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

    Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

    These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.
    Thank you for making my point for me...

    BTW: Why is it that it's always the 'liberals' that are limiting rights? Healthcare, smoking, trans-fats, the list is near endless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Thank you for making my point for me...

    BTW: Why is it that it's always the 'liberals' that are limiting rights? Healthcare, smoking, trans-fats, the list is near endless.
    Liberals? The liberal era began with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. From the late 1960's forward has been the conservative era.

    Conservatives created the biggest 'nanny state' in human history. The US Has 5% of the worlds population, and 25% of world's prison population.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Liberals? The liberal era began with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. From the late 1960's forward has been the conservative era.


    We are still living with the fucking Great Society and the New Deal... they never ended...

    You have to know more about fornication than you know about conservatism.

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    We are still living with the fucking Great Society and the New Deal... they never ended...

    You have to know more about fornication than you know about conservatism.
    Fornication would be your expertise. As I said before: Conservatism is the manifestation of parental suppression as a youth. It creates a view of the world based on fear, bias and insecurity.

    It also creates repression: if you're told you can't have this, then you want it more.

    Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers


    Those states that consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption.

    "Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by"

    Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year's presidential election.

    Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage.
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    Re: The American Conservative (Continuing Series)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Q: What is conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
    Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
    A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.
    Which is why America is in decline and perhaps even doomed. Anybody with a clue knows that American Liberals aren't really liberals. (That's the libertarians.)

    The truth is that We have 2 conservative political parties - the only difference is which set of aristocrats is given more power to rule and exploit the masses.
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    Which is why America is in decline and perhaps even doomed. Anybody with a clue knows that American Liberals aren't really liberals. (That's the libertarians.)

    The truth is that We have 2 conservative political parties - the only difference is which set of aristocrats is given more power to rule and exploit the masses.
    Spot on and a history of legislation exists to back that premise.
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    Re: The American Conservative (Continuing Series)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Liberals? The liberal era began with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. From the late 1960's forward has been the conservative era.

    Conservatives created the biggest 'nanny state' in human history. The US Has 5% of the worlds population, and 25% of world's prison population.


    You're not seriously claiming a vast prison population is evidence of a nanny state are you?
    That would seem to suggest some people are in prison for the free food and lodging which I seriously doubt as I've heard the wine selection in prison is pretty poor and the choice of breakfast severely limited.

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    We should only treat our elderly as well as our prisoners.
    NYS 55K/year per prisoner.
    Doesn't make the incarceration picture any prettier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterUK75 View Post
    You're not seriously claiming a vast prison population is evidence of a nanny state are you?
    That would seem to suggest some people are in prison for the free food and lodging which I seriously doubt as I've heard the wine selection in prison is pretty poor and the choice of breakfast severely limited.
    Besides the fact that our budget supports a police state ... is there no reason to look at the incarcerated and wonder why?
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