Thread: Three days until North Carolina Amendment One and Marriage Protected

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I always find it interesting that people always quote the Jewish scriptures and act like that is what governs Christianity.

Yeah, totally different god, the two have nothing in common......

So where in the New Testament is the scathing denunciation of polygamy, I must have missed it

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I always find it interesting that people always quote the Jewish scriptures and act like that is what governs Christianity.

I'm sorry, when did Christianity dump the Old Testament?

Originally Posted by fishjoel

In 1 Timothy and in Titus it mentions being the husband of one wife.

I said 'overtly' condemn. You sure that wasn't in reference to becoming deacons or leaders in the church.

In either case, the NT is a sidebar to the debate?

Originally Posted by goober

Yeah, totally different god, the two have nothing in common......

That's not what I said. What I said is that you're talking about the Jews. They were under a different dispensation (basically a contract) than what Christians are. It existed for a specific reason.

So where in the New Testament is the scathing denunciation of polygamy, I must have missed it

In the post right before the one you quoted.

Originally Posted by Sluggo

I'm sorry, when did Christianity dump the Old Testament?

Christianity is not governed by the OT, not that we've dumped it.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Christianity is not governed by the OT, not that we've dumped it.

Wait a minute, so the Old Testament is not read? Not studied? Not accepted or governed by? If not governed by then does that mean we can finally ignore "creation?" Or are you saying that the Old Testament is not dumped, but is there to make the Bible just look bigger?

Originally Posted by Sluggo

but is there to make the Bible just look bigger?

That made me laugh. Kind of like padding the sentences in a book report to get to the needed length? I'm trying to picture Athanasius saying "there must be something I can throw in here to give it a little more heft"

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Christianity is not governed by the OT, not that we've dumped it.

EXCEPT, Leviticus is in the Old Testament, and that's the part that people conveniently refer to when it comes to discussing homosexuality. This is exactly what I mean when I talk about the hypocrisy of The Bible, and people who follow it. If you're going to throw out the Old Testamemt then fine, but you then can't turn around and use it make an argument against the morality of homosexuality, or evolution etc.

Wrong-o. Ain't nothing blessed about homosexuality.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

Wrong-o. Ain't nothing blessed about homosexuality.

I don't know about that; I drop to my knees to worship my partner on my occasions. Occasionally he enjoys it so much he screams out "oh jesus christ!"

Leviticus states concerning the ACT, NOT the person.
Most of the time men are not lying down with men as they would with a woman.
Most of the time men are watching football, posting on USPOL, going food shopping perhaps.

The Jewish Scriptures understands that people are not perfect and it has rules to try to circumvent undesired behavior.
TJS recognizes homosexuality and denigrates the ACT.

There are 613 Commandments.
Homosexuality is a transgression of 2 Commandments and does NOT exempt a Jewish homosexual from observing the other 611.
In fact, for every moment men are not engaged in sodomy, they get credit.
If they keep it to themselves they enjoy all of the privileges that being part of the community offers, including leading the congregation in prayer and being called to read from the Torah on Shabbos and Holidays.
On the other hand, if a Jew is an inveterate thief they should keep that a secret also; bragging is a no-no.

TNT denigrates the individual who engages in the act.

Originally Posted by darth omar

‘Same sex’ marriage differs from ‘3-or more’ marriage only to the extent that the former involves gender and the latter involves numbers. The fact of the matter is, once gay marriage is legalized the precedent is established for polygamists to proclaim the same right to legal marriage.

I do not have a problem with polygamy as it results in producing the next generation of citizens. It is Biblicaly supported as Goober pointed out and except for the extremely rich was practiced due to the practical reason of a shortage of men (from war) to keep the species alive. I believe it is still practiced by Muslims with the caveat that each wife has to be treated the same way and I think that is a reasonable condition.

I find it amazing that gay marriage has advanced and not polygamy, especially given an entire State (Utah) devoted to polygamy.

Originally Posted by noahath

i don't know about that; i drop to my knees to worship my partner on my occasions. Occasionally he enjoys it so much he screams out "oh jesus christ!"

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