Thread: Three days until North Carolina Amendment One and Marriage Protected

Originally Posted by thanatos144

I am gonna take a wild stab and say it was the 9th circuit that did this....

Give that man a cigar...

Originally Posted by HonorsDaddy

Three words: California Proposition 8.

That was an amendment to the CA constitution. It was declared unconstitutional.

Our Amendment is worded differently to avoid that ruling.

Originally Posted by goober

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Same sex marriage polls very poorly among elderly voters, it does much better among younger voters....

Young people grow old, duh.

Originally Posted by goober

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I'm curious, how does this North Carolina amendment treat marriages performed in another state?
If it doesn't recognize legal marriages performed in another state, it violates equal protection.

They are not recognized, just like Massachusetts doesn't recognize our gun laws.

Originally Posted by timj219

Another temporary victory for homophobia. But as the ignorant bigots die off this too will pass. Most young people laugh at the idea of discriminating against homosexuals. The only thing more hilarious is the delusion that homosexual marriage has anything at all to do with the state of heterosexual marriage - which is pretty dismal BTW.

No it will be a victory for marriage. Here's the proposed wording in the State Constitution:

Sec. 6. Marriage.

Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

No it will be a victory for marriage. Here's the proposed wording in the State Constitution:

"victory for marriage" - what an empty phrase. Bigotry does not help heterosexual marriage and gay marriage doesn't hurt it. The only victory here is a temporary victory for homophobia.

Originally Posted by timj219

"victory for marriage" - what an empty phrase. Bigotry does not help heterosexual marriage and gay marriage doesn't hurt it. The only victory here is a temporary victory for homophobia.

Question: If there is a civil union which allows for the exact same conditions as marriage, why must a homosexual union be called a marriage?

Another question: Since marriage, as humanity in general understands it, consists of one man and one woman and has through most of recorded human history in all known societies, how is it bigotry to expect what can legitimately be considered the biological norm to continue?

Originally Posted by timj219

"victory for marriage" - what an empty phrase. Bigotry does not help heterosexual marriage and gay marriage doesn't hurt it. The only victory here is a temporary victory for homophobia.

Lots of liberals claim all sorts of crap about what it is that is untrue, just like you continue to do. The voters won't be fooled.

Originally Posted by timj219

"victory for marriage" - what an empty phrase. Bigotry does not help heterosexual marriage and gay marriage doesn't hurt it. The only victory here is a temporary victory for homophobia.

It is sad how every argument against a Black is said to be racist, every argument against a woman is said to be sexist and every argument against expanding redistribution of wealth by government (to homosexuals) is homophobic.

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

It is sad how every argument against a Black is said to be racist, every argument against a woman is said to be sexist and every argument against expanding redistribution of wealth by government (to homosexuals) is homophobic.

What I think is sad is that we allow those responses to substitute for reasoned debate. Whenever someone pulls the race card, the sex card or the homo card, what they are really saying is they cannot counter your argument with facts so they're going to whine like children until you give them what they want.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

Young people grow old, duh.

Today's young people aren't going to grow homophobic as they age.
That's how old bigotries die out.
By 2025 the majority of states will have same sex marriage, by 2050 it will be in every state.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

They are not recognized, just like Massachusetts doesn't recognize our gun laws.

Well then that's a problem, and you'll probably see this particular amendment tossed out in court before it gets repealed.
But one way or the other same sex marriage will be recognized in NC before 2050.

Originally Posted by goober

Today's young people aren't going to grow homophobic as they age.
That's how old bigotries die out.
By 2025 the majority of states will have same sex marriage, by 2050 it will be in every state.

Nope They will have held beliefs that marriage is a man and a woman