Thread: Three days until North Carolina Amendment One and Marriage Protected

every hippie communists and Marxist lawyer will be in your state protesting and suing.

That's the point, exactly. Once it's in the Constitution judges won't be able to touch it like they screwed Massachusetts.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

That's the point, exactly. Once it's in the Constitution judges won't be able to touch it like they screwed Massachusetts.

Have you never heard of Obamacare????? LOL They will try and might actually succeed. Never underestimate how underhanded a liberal can be.

By 2050 same sex marriage will be legal in 50 states, by popular acclaim.
The last holdouts, as always will be southern conservative states, but by 2050 they will have the majorities to repeal any obstructing legislation or amendments.

This is because support for same sex marriage continues to rise in public opinion polls, it passed 50% on a national level in 2011.
And think about this, support for an amendment banning same sex marriage in North Caroline is 57%, 20 years ago it would have been 90%, how long before support for repealing this silly amendment hits 57%?

The trend is clear, and it's been trending that way since the issue of marriage equality first surfaced something like 4 decades ago, when support for marriage equality was under 10%.

Originally Posted by goober

By 2050 same sex marriage will be legal in 50 states, by popular acclaim.
The last holdouts, as always will be southern conservative states, but by 2050 they will have the majorities to repeal any obstructing legislation or amendments.

This is because support for same sex marriage continues to rise in public opinion polls, it passed 50% on a national level in 2011.
And think about this, support for an amendment banning same sex marriage in North Caroline is 57%, 20 years ago it would have been 90%, how long before support for repealing this silly amendment hits 57%?

The trend is clear, and it's been trending that way since the issue of marriage equality first surfaced something like 4 decades ago, when support for marriage equality was under 10%.

By popular acclaim???????????You do know almost ever time this is put to a vote it loses right????So that tells me it is not popular nor will it be acclaimed.....

Originally Posted by thanatos144

By popular acclaim???????????You do know almost ever time this is put to a vote it loses right????So that tells me it is popular nor will it be acclaimed.....

Do you understand trends?
Same sex marriage polls very poorly among elderly voters, it does much better among younger voters.
Older voters die off, the popular culture of the US embraces gay people, it's the conservative backlash that opposes equality, and that goes away.
In 2050, anti gay marriage crowd will be grouped with the segregationists, in history's dustbin.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

That's the point, exactly. Once it's in the Constitution judges won't be able to touch it like they screwed Massachusetts.

Three words: California Proposition 8.

That was an amendment to the CA constitution. It was declared unconstitutional.

Originally Posted by goober

Do you understand trends?
Same sex marriage polls very poorly among elderly voters, it does much better among younger voters.
Older voters die off, the popular culture of the US embraces gay people, it's the conservative backlash that opposes equality, and that goes away.
In 2050, anti gay marriage crowd will be grouped with the segregationists, in history's dustbin.

Oh what bullshit. The reason this movement fails is cause even a vast majority of democrats dont want this. It even failed in California

Originally Posted by HonorsDaddy

Three words: California Proposition 8.

That was an amendment to the CA constitution. It was declared unconstitutional.

Isnt that just bizarre?????

Originally Posted by HonorsDaddy

Three words: California Proposition 8.

That was an amendment to the CA constitution. It was declared unconstitutional.

Another good point, a law that discriminates can be struck down by a court, even if it is "enshrined" in a state constitution
and the time when the US Constitution could have been amended to ban same sex marriage is long gone.

I'm curious, how does this North Carolina amendment treat marriages performed in another state?
If it doesn't recognize legal marriages performed in another state, it violates equal protection.

Originally Posted by goober

Do you understand trends?
Same sex marriage polls very poorly among elderly voters, it does much better among younger voters.
Older voters die off, the popular culture of the US embraces gay people, it's the conservative backlash that opposes equality, and that goes away.
In 2050, anti gay marriage crowd will be grouped with the segregationists, in history's dustbin.

Don't be so sure about that goober.

Most of the world is not in favor of homosexuality and does not accept it. It is foolish to think that just because the subsection of America that you deal with sees things one way that everyone else will follow the trend.

I wouldn't lump them in with segregationists either - more like the group which doesn't like mixed race marriage. Believe it or not, that group is fairly large and includes people of ALL races. You'll see much the same with homosexual unions. It will be publicly tolerated, privately reviled and never celebrated - pretty much as it is right now.

Another temporary victory for homophobia. But as the ignorant bigots die off this too will pass. Most young people laugh at the idea of discriminating against homosexuals. The only thing more hilarious is the delusion that homosexual marriage has anything at all to do with the state of heterosexual marriage - which is pretty dismal BTW.

Originally Posted by goober

Another good point, a law that discriminates can be struck down by a court, even if it is "enshrined" in a state constitution
and the time when the US Constitution could have been amended to ban same sex marriage is long gone.

I'm curious, how does this North Carolina amendment treat marriages performed in another state?
If it doesn't recognize legal marriages performed in another state, it violates equal protection.

Not so much. Most states do not recognize gay marriage and as such there is no equal protection case.

One state cannot force its views upon the others merely by permitting something. That's not how equal protection works.