Thread: Pitiful FOX Campaigns Against Obama

Or just for carrying on the tradition of new organizations since spartan runners were infotaining the plebes.

Originally Posted by Wagner

I don't really see what the issue is.

The segment covered the deficit, the unemployment rate, the costs of gas and food, and savings which are all pretty important issues to pretty much everyone.

I guess Michael feels a "credible" news agency should focus on nothing other then Sarah Palin being a cunt, how hysterical it is for Rick Santorum's son to have died shortly after birth, and the POTUS' evolving views on gay marriage. I guess those are the only issues of importance to liberal America.

I grew up with Walter Cronkite. We probably have different expectations of news when it comes to integrity. Sarah Palin is a good and loving mother ... the 1st and most important litmus test of a person. You personally go very shallow using Santorums loss to further your agenda. His flesh and blood child is dead and you think its worthy ammo to attack liberals with. The President is evolving? Maybe. Gay marriage support is evolving for me also as I try to come to terms with humans not allowed to marry those they love. I personally think the most important issue in the country is nationalism and taking care of the countries citizens.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

So showing the truth in the contrast of what our President said and what he has done makes Fox an evil republican hack site?????? Some of you need to wake up. You cant blame Fox for Obama being a failure and liar. You should be thanking Fox for having the Honor to report the truth. As Glenn Beck said and I believe The truth has no agenda.

I only blame Fox for being liars. Fair and balanced. I blame them for not being a news outlet, but nothing more than the mouthpiece of the republican party, which they do for a profit.

If they run a disclaimer prior to each program, that they were working for the republicans, there would be no complaint from me. It's trying to appear to be real news, not opinion that presents the problem for me. I hate liars, especially when an entire network is intent on doing it. While denying it.

So post a FOX lie that was presented as news, link us to one.....................I'm sure you can find one, but can you show they are consistently broadcasting false information in their newscasts. Now repeat that exercise with CNN, NBC, CBS, and MSNBC.

The irony is that the liberal media helped create Fox.

Originally Posted by darth omar

The irony is that the liberal media helped create Fox.

Helped? It DID create it. Someone had to counter the nonstop barrage of consistently biased liberal news in the USA.

Originally Posted by chassisman

So post a FOX lie that was presented as news, link us to one.....................I'm sure you can find one, but can you show they are consistently broadcasting false information in their newscasts. Now repeat that exercise with CNN, NBC, CBS, and MSNBC.

Fox says they are fair and balanced. That is a lie. A fair and balanced news would not be overtly against a democrat, Obama, and even schill for the repub.

Opinions are included in news coverage. Opinions are not factual news, they are opinions. This is basically being deceptive which is lying, although cleverly. The intent is to form opinions of its viewers. That is propaganda.

Fox isn't stupid. They will not come out and tell an outright lie, that would show them up for what they are. They have to rely upon the more clever ways of lying, by insinuating, by mixing opinion with news, so the brainless will be fooled. They rely upon the brainless to get their agenda across. And it is working. Brilliant propaganda. Goebels would be real proud of em.

Lies do not have to be presented in statements. The more effective lies are not presented in statements.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Fox says they are fair and balanced. That is a lie. A fair and balanced news would not be overtly against a democrat, Obama, and even schill for the repub.

Opinions are included in news coverage. Opinions are not factual news, they are opinions. This is basically being deceptive which is lying, although cleverly. The intent is to form opinions of its viewers. That is propaganda.

Fox isn't stupid. They will not come out and tell an outright lie, that would show them up for what they are. They have to rely upon the more clever ways of lying, by insinuating, by mixing opinion with news, so the brainless will be fooled. They rely upon the brainless to get their agenda across. And it is working. Brilliant propaganda. Goebels would be real proud of em.

Lies do not have to be presented in statements. The more effective lies are not presented in statements.

Thats a long post just to say "They Lie cause I said so you dummie heads!!!!!"

In the left hand we have ;CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN. MSNBC, NYT, Media Matters, Think Progress and Huffington Post, to name a few.

In the right we have Fox, NRO and National Journal and The Hill.

Fair and balanced?


As for the OP, other than format, how is this different than having a talking head from (pick a network) sitting in front of the camera and doing the same thing?

Originally Posted by chassisman

Watch MSNBC and get back to us on that "pitiful" comment.

Originally Posted by darth omar

The irony is that the liberal media helped create Fox.

.... and the success of Fox's partisanship helped create MSNBC.

Fox is certainly fair and balanced. You just have to insert the unspoken phrase into the motto: "Fair and Balanced (if you're a conservative with blinders on)"

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

.... and the success of Fox's partisanship helped create MSNBC.

Fox is certainly fair and balanced. You just have to insert the unspoken phrase into the motto: "Fair and Balanced (if you're a conservative with blinders on)"

What annoys me most is that you dont realize youre doing what you accuse them of. Calling them names and regurgitating rhetoric is just as pointless as Sean Hannity doing it.

There are plenty of conservatives on USPOL that realize how biased Fox is. Its possible to have stimulating intellectual discussions with them.

Then there are the dittoheads. Its possible to hear the same talking points over and over and over from them.

Likewise with MSNBC. However, since there is much less of a viewership of MSNBC there are fewer dittoheads of that persuasion.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Thats a long post just to say "They Lie cause I said so you dummie heads!!!!!"

The truth of what I said can only be seen by an objective brain. Something the right is not familiar with. When is the last time you heard, or seen objectivity from talk radio, or Fox? You have not, so you are not real familiar with an objective brain.

Since I am NOT at all a modern liberal, nor conservative, but more objective than not, you cannot relate to it. In fact, objectivity is an alien concept.

I actually use my own brain, and will always remain very skeptical of both the left and the right madness that permeates this nation of tribes.

I seldom talk of things that cannot be objectively seen, if one observes without prejudice. That is why most of my posts address what free trade, and the globalization that arose from it has yielded upon the middle class.

That is why I have posted many times that abortion for convenience is outright, cold blooded murder, something most liberals find to be acceptable. I really don't fall into the modern left, and sure as hell don't fall into the new right wing madness.

You right wingers place me left, but anything not conservative is automatically left wing to you. If I am anything, I am a believer that mankind can be noble, with noble goals and aspirations. I believe greed has always been the creator of inequity, economic injustice, because I observe that greed in my self, and in others. Greed drives the entire world. If one ignores the power of greed, upon the weaker, as conservatives do, this creates injustice in the world. That is complete objectivity, that comes from simple observation of ones self as well as the world of man at large.

Greed is the root cause of globalization, nothing else. Greed is causing our middle class to shrink, with a new class of poor. Yet cons seem to accept the greed, and some even embrace it, seeing it not as a destructive force in mankind, but as something positive for capitalism.

Conservatism, today's brand of it is so destructive, and the results of this ideology is all around us, if one could look objectively. It really isn't hard to see either. Unless you are blinded by a man made ideology, that you seek some sort of security in.

And blinded you are, and so is the left. But the damage done by the left is overwhelmed in the damage that comes from the right wingers. Right wingers are anti social, while man is a social animal. And as such will create more disorder in society than you can shake a stick at. As has been proven since the return of this group of men. The proof is in the pudding, but one has to be objective in order to see it. Otherwise, you only see what your ideology has already created, and is stored as memory. With this memory, this stored info, you look at the new, but you are bound by the old. So seeing anything new, anything factual is impossible. Oh for just a touch of self knowledge! But you know nothing about what you really are, deep inside. So, you continue to do mischief in the world.

The ability to look inside at ones self is not used, so you never know exactly what motivates you, drives you. And from this self ignorance you try to solve problems, and in the process make such a mess of things. But first you have to understand the great power of human nature, of greed, and how it has created this world of injustice and inequity. Any system that looks perfect on paper is quickly corrupted by human nature. Yet few are intelligent enough to see this, and the ones that are certainly are not right wingers.

There has never been any man that founded a religion that was a right winger. A right winger offered Christ the world, as he tried to tempt him, in the desert. When waiting, after the death of christ, a huge group of followers, were inspired by god, according to Acts, to care for the less fortunate. How they did this, was far from right wing ideology. It seems that God's chosen path for doing this is averse to right wing ideology. Yet how many sermons in church, inhabited by right wingers have ever been preached on these passages from the NT, that showed HOW God inspired those people to care for the poor among them? NONE. WHY? It goes against right wing beliefs, that trump religious texts regarding this matter.

I am afraid Christ, on which so many right wingers cling to and believe, was no right winger. In fact, he was closer to an old liberal, the liberals of yesteryear, who placed humanity above greater profits for our rich, who by the way will have a difficult time entering into the kingdom, into heaven.

The greatest irony is that the rich who the right side worships are inevitably hell bound. No genuine follower of christ can ever be a conservative. They are too selfish, self centered and worship wealth over humanity. And therein is my objection to this ideology that comes from the old deciever himself. It's foundation is based and grounded upon sin, upon evil. An objective mind has no trouble in seeing this. One can always tell whether a tree is good, or bad, by the fruit it produces. But the ideologically blinded mind is incapable of seeing this.

Fox is the blind, leading the blind, while maintaining they are not doing this! And that is what an objective mind sees.

End of rant that the disgust of the right wingnuts elicits. But if you don't point out evil, one is not doing his job. I will not take this evil, unchallenged. Only by men that know what man is, can there be a solving of the problems that face us. If one is not aware of the destructiveness of the greed of the few, and that mankind is driven by greed, we will never solve the huge problems that face mankind. We will continue on the same old well worn path that has created a hell on earth.