Thread: Pitiful FOX Campaigns Against Obama

But without Fox what cable news outlet wouldn't be in the tank for Obama?

Watch MSNBC and get back to us on that "pitiful" comment.

Originally Posted by michael h

As if FOX was already lacking credibility ... they are already on the campaign trail. How can anyone take them to be even a shadow of a news organization?

Definetly one of the more opinionated animations theyve done. Still doesnt change the fact that they also report news and facts. I feel the same way about MSNBC and CNN. They all blend fact and opinion, with varying degrees. Its infotainment, and youve shown shown nothing new here.

Fox news is an absolute joke and the people who defend it wouldn't know what impartiality is if someone slapped them round the face with a wet fish with the word impartial painted onto it. Fox news is not a news channel any more than cartoon network is.

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Originally Posted by jviehe

Definetly one of the more opinionated animations theyve done. Still doesnt change the fact that they also report news and facts. I feel the same way about MSNBC and CNN. They all blend fact and opinion, with varying degrees. Its infotainment, and youve shown shown nothing new here.

If fox were in the least bit balanced they would have ads like this in support of Obama as well as against but all Fox does is act as the mouthpiece for the Republicans. That's not news.

What do we expect from big corporate owned media? ADVERTISING.

I have been watching the "fair and balanced" mouthpiece of the republican party for a long time. No one can watch a days programming from FOX and not be aware this is a republican media outlet. And that means a propaganda outlet, posing as news.

That's fine, but what irks me is that they lie about it, and deny. Which makes the entire network, dirty liars.

I watched ABC news last week, the evening news, and it reminded me of the old days of news,where you did not get a feeling they were cheerleading, or attacking. Could have been just that particular program, but I saw non of the venom of Fox. Or MSNBC.

MSNBC and FOX are both propaganda outlets, and it's obvious. MSNBC just does not lie about it.

I am a rare bird, I guess, because I don't think propaganda should be so accepted, and even applauded. Just another symptom of a broken political system.

Originally Posted by PeterUK75

Fox news is an absolute joke and the people who defend it wouldn't know what impartiality is if someone slapped them round the face with a wet fish with the word impartial painted onto it. Fox news is not a news channel any more than cartoon network is.

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If fox were in the least bit balanced they would have ads like this in support of Obama as well as against but all Fox does is act as the mouthpiece for the Republicans. That's not news.

Pot -> kettle

Originally Posted by jviehe

Definetly one of the more opinionated animations theyve done. Still doesnt change the fact that they also report news and facts. I feel the same way about MSNBC and CNN. They all blend fact and opinion, with varying degrees. Its infotainment, and youve shown shown nothing new here.

All TV news is God-awful. I assume we can agree on that. And your point about "infotainment" is very important, because once news organizations were expected to turn a profit, their mandate was no longer to inform, but to entertain... which is why news tends to be no more sophisticated or informative than The Real Housewives of Orange County.

That's not to say every news organization is exactly the same. They have all descended into stupidity, but there is a difference between Fox and CNN on a political level, which is that while CNN may be politically biased, Fox has a political agenda. And that is a very different thing. As Chris Wallace once said, "We're the counterweight. They have a liberal agenda, and we tell the other side of the story." If you are a news organization dedicated to only telling the conservative side of the story, you are not a news organization at all. You are a political organization.

So when Fox News produces and airs its own anti-Obama attack ad, it is simply being consistent with its mission statement, which is to promote the RNC agenda.

Originally Posted by AdamKadmon

All TV news is God-awful. I assume we can agree on that. And your point about "infotainment" is very important, because once news organizations were expected to turn a profit, their mandate was no longer to inform, but to entertain... which is why news tends to be no more sophisticated or informative than The Real Housewives of Orange County.

That's not to say every news organization is exactly the same. They have all descended into stupidity, but there is a difference between Fox and CNN on a political level, which is that while CNN may be politically biased, Fox has a political agenda. And that is a very different thing. As Chris Wallace once said, "We're the counterweight. They have a liberal agenda, and we tell the other side of the story." If you are a news organization dedicated to only telling the conservative side of the story, you are not a news organization at all. You are a political organization.

So when Fox News produces and airs its own anti-Obama attack ad, it is simply being consistent with its mission statement, which is to promote the RNC agenda.

Would it be easier for you if I simply said, 'so what?' I really dont see any point in attacking cable news. We all know who has what viewpoint. No one is forced to watch. Thus none of this affects anyone.

Originally Posted by AdamKadMon

That's not to say every news organization is exactly the same. They have all descended into stupidity, but there is a difference between Fox and CNN on a political level, which is that while CNN may be politically biased, Fox has a political agenda.

Some would call that a distinction without a difference.

But let’s go with it for the sake of argument. In my prior post I remarked [only partly in jest] that without Fox there’s no cable news outlet not in the tank for Obama. Indeed, one of the reasons Fox get’s the high ratings is precisely because their bias/agenda is distinct from the rest of them.

On one end of the spectrum you have Chris Matthews all but falling to his knees in worship of the anointed one and on the other end is Sean Hannity coining the term ‘anointed one’---in reference to Obama.

Without Fox it’s a one-ended spectrum and that can’t be healthy in a democratic society. In fact, when you only get one end of the spectrum you no longer have a democratic society.

So, I really don’t get the fuss. If people are unable to recognize bias when they see it---we have bigger problems than bias in the media.

Originally Posted by AdamKadmon

All TV news is God-awful. I assume we can agree on that. And your point about "infotainment" is very important, because once news organizations were expected to turn a profit, their mandate was no longer to inform, but to entertain... which is why news tends to be no more sophisticated or informative than The Real Housewives of Orange County.

That's not to say every news organization is exactly the same. They have all descended into stupidity, but there is a difference between Fox and CNN on a political level, which is that while CNN may be politically biased, Fox has a political agenda. And that is a very different thing. As Chris Wallace once said, "We're the counterweight. They have a liberal agenda, and we tell the other side of the story." If you are a news organization dedicated to only telling the conservative side of the story, you are not a news organization at all. You are a political organization.

So when Fox News produces and airs its own anti-Obama attack ad, it is simply being consistent with its mission statement, which is to promote the RNC agenda.

You had me all the up to 'which is to promote the RNC agenda', which I don't see. All the rest, I agree with.

Originally Posted by jviehe

Would it be easier for you if I simply said, 'so what?' I really dont see any point in attacking cable news. We all know who has what viewpoint. No one is forced to watch. Thus none of this affects anyone.

No one is forced to watch, but we all live with the consequences of an ill- and mis-informed electorate.

I don't really see what the issue is.

The segment covered the deficit, the unemployment rate, the costs of gas and food, and savings which are all pretty important issues to pretty much everyone.

I guess Michael feels a "credible" news agency should focus on nothing other then Sarah Palin being a cunt, how hysterical it is for Rick Santorum's son to have died shortly after birth, and the POTUS' evolving views on gay marriage. I guess those are the only issues of importance to liberal America.

Originally Posted by AdamKadmon

No one is forced to watch, but we all live with the consequences of an ill- and mis-informed electorate.

WHich has nothing to do with FNC.