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You're saying that record matters, yet bush was elected just fine, and besides a failed business man, a drug addict, and a crappy governor, he hadn't done much either.
Even if your slanderous lies were true, Bush still had far more experience than Obama. You are hard to take serious.
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Even if your slanderous lies were true, Bush still had far more experience than Obama. You are hard to take serious.
Fucking ridiculous.

Bush was a spoiled brat his entire life. He never accomplished anything without daddy. His life is amongst the elites who have completely lost touch with reality. George Bush is not a man with real life experience, real knowledge of hard work, real knowledge of struggle. George Bush is just another pampered rich white kid from an elite and powerful segment of American society who fell into the presidency with absolutely no qualifications to speak of.


Obama earned everything he has.

That alone gives him much more experience than Bush Jr. could ever dream of having.


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You almost made it through a whole post without some baseless "America Sucks" verbal vomit.

Thank God such bigotry is rare in this world.

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Your "IMAGINATION" again??? I don't see any such verbation.
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The same was said about JFK, and yet he not only won but became an icon in life and death. The gift of the gab and charisma count for alot and can win alone, and if you add brains to that the person can be extremely effective. Alot of POTUSes, even great ones such as Washington and Lincoln, similarly had short experience as elected officials.
I didn't say experience. I said Maturity. there is a great difference. I like him, but I think he needs to wait a few years.
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Fucking ridiculous.

Bush was a spoiled brat his entire life. He never accomplished anything without daddy. His life is amongst the elites who have completely lost touch with reality. George Bush is not a man with real life experience, real knowledge of hard work, real knowledge of struggle. George Bush is just another pampered rich white kid from an elite and powerful segment of American society who fell into the presidency with absolutely no qualifications to speak of.


Obama earned everything he has.

That alone gives him much more experience than Bush Jr. could ever dream of having.


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you don't want to discuss Obama, you only want to use this thread (and every other thread you particpate in) to vent your hatred of Bush. You DO need a new boogy man, your schtick is sooo played.....
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Fucking ridiculous.

Bush was a spoiled brat his entire life. He never accomplished anything without daddy. His life is amongst the elites who have completely lost touch with reality. George Bush is not a man with real life experience, real knowledge of hard work, real knowledge of struggle. George Bush is just another pampered rich white kid from an elite and powerful segment of American society who fell into the presidency with absolutely no qualifications to speak of.


Obama earned everything he has.

That alone gives him much more experience than Bush Jr. could ever dream of having.


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I agree!!!!!
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you don't want to discuss Obama, you only want to use this thread (and every other thread you particpate in) to vent your hatred of Bush. You DO need a new boogy man, your schtick is sooo played.....

Hey now, i responded directly to the topic at hand which was Bush has more experience than Obama. I have already posted a few times in this thread before that post and did not mention Bush once.

Now do you have anything at all to say to my rebuttal to your post, or was this just your way of deflecting the reality that Bush is unqualified to run a popsicle stand, let alone the white house...

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Bush would just hurt himself at the popsicle stand. Bush can't handle eating a pretzel.
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Hey now, i responded directly to the topic at hand which was Bush has more experience than Obama. I have already posted a few times in this thread before that post and did not mention Bush once.
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Yep, you started out like a sane and rational poster and made ONE post that was not about Bush. It was as if someone else was writing for you! Then the real you showed up and started spewing your irrational hatred of Bush, as usual.
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Fucking ridiculous.


Obama earned everything he has.

That alone gives him much more experience than Bush Jr. could ever dream of having.


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hahahaha and his well educated and well off parent(s)…. his prep school education...?


OBAMA, Barack, a Senator from Illinois; born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961; obtained early education in Jakarta, Indonesia, and Hawaii; continued education at Occidental College, Los Angeles, Calif., and Columbia University, New York City; studied law at Harvard University, where he became the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review, and received J.D. in 1992; lecturer on constitutional law, University of Chicago; member, Illinois State senate 1997-2004; elected as a Democrat to the U.S. Senate in 2004 for term beginning January 3, 2005.

United States Senator. Born August 4, 1961 in Hawaii, the son of Barack Obama, Sr., a member of Kenya's Luo tribe, and Ann Dunham. At the age of six, Obama moved with his family to Djakarta, Indonesia, after his mother remarried. Four years later, he returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attend the esteemed Punahou Academy.

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whoops…” Special consideration is given to qualified candidates who are: descendants of Punahou's missionary founders; children of faculty, staff or alumni; children of Hawaiian descent; or siblings of enrolled students. Admission, however, is not automatic for applicants in these categories”.
Wow he attended a school were special considerations were given? oh no..does Teddy know this? Whether he was given special consideration is beyond the point to beat you to the punch…( but I would love to know)

Did he get himself through Columbia and Harvard yes…did Bush get himself though …yes? So? No where does it say he won a scholarship to Columbia or harvard law school..so who paid for it? Hummmmmm same old same old……and your sense of “earning and experience” is , well off the chart…..but then again bias always is……..
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OK, take out the assassination comment and it is most likely accurate, not bigotry, just American politics. His progressive stance will be one of the reasons he does not make it. If he does want to make it in the old boys club, he will have to drop the progressive attitude. Do you think I'm totally off base with that assessment?

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No, now that you have removed the assassination notion, I think you may have a point. You see, "progressive" means taking from those who work to give to those who don't.

Most working folks oppose that for some reason....

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No, now that you have removed the assassination notion, I think you may have a point. You see, "progressive" means taking from those who work to give to those who don't.

Most working folks oppose that for some reason....

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I resemble that remark.
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No, now that you have removed the assassination notion, I think you may have a point. You see, "progressive" means taking from those who work to give to those who don't.

Most working folks oppose that for some reason....

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Well yes, it does seem that Americans tend to define social programs that way. Which is again why i don't think he will get much traction. Yet it is odd, polls indicate that the majority of Americans actually support some sort of universal health care, but Obama will run into opposition from powerful corporate interests, not from Americans in general.

Btw, how come universal health care in Canada has not resulted in people choosing not to work just because they get free health care? That does not make sense, I don't get free food, a free house, and a free car, i still need to work to live. But if i am not very wealthy i don't have to be worry about health insurance at all, i know i will be taken care of no matter what the cost of the procedure? Do you not see any societal benefit to that? Or do you prefer breaking people because they cannot afford medical treatments..... Have you ever seen a family devastated from illness? At least we can take care of them no matter what their paycheques amount to. That is progressive.

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hahahaha and his well educated and well off parent(s)…. his prep school education...?
He was middle class, yes. Not poor. But he did not have everything handed to him on a silver platter like Bush did. You see, he went to Harvard because he was intelligent, not because his daddy was 'connected'. George Bush does not inspire respect or confidence, Obama does.


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Yep, you started out like a sane and rational poster and made ONE post that was not about Bush. It was as if someone else was writing for you! Then the real you showed up and started spewing your irrational hatred of Bush, as usual.

Two posts.

No it was not irrational.

Yes, i hate Bush. (but i did not bring him into this conversation, i merely joined one in progress).

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