Originally Posted by Alex

In light of the recent revelations about Saint Obama's shady real estate transactions, methinks his tenure as 'flavor of the month' will be very short.

Originally Posted by Steve

I love how unproven accusations are, so often, all right-wing freaks need...

Originally Posted by Alex

In light of the recent revelations about Saint Obama's shady real estate transactions, methinks his tenure as 'flavor of the month' will be very short.

Originally Posted by goober

That is the lamest "shady deal" story I have heard, since "Whitewater".
Obama bought land from the guy, 1/6 of a lot, and he paid 1/6 of what the guy had paid, even though that was almost 3 times the appraised value.
It's like Obama is bribing the lobbyist.
When I heard that stupid Whitewater crap, that a deal where the Clintons lost $5000 was being investigated, I knew it was bullshit, which it was, because in real crooked stuff, the crooks end up with the money or 10% of a baseball team.

Originally Posted by Little-Acorn

What's so special about Barack Obama?

He seems to be your basic liberal, and he's black, and only has a few years on the job. Pretty articulate. He recites the standard liberal bromides pretty well: Increasing minumum wage will help, raising taxes will help, something's wrong with the gap between rich and poor, Republicans are racists, etc., the usual tripe. He is rated as the 18th most liberal member of the Senate, which puts him slightly ahead of the middle of the pack of Democrats. In other words, he's pretty much a cookie-cutter standard liberal politician. Nothing particularly worse than any other liberal, nothing particularly better.

So why is the media going ga-ga over him, but not over any of the other liberals newly elected in 2004 or 2006?

What position of Obama's is different from any of the other liberals?

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The Messiah Cometh to New Hampshire - Yahoo! News

Susan Milligan of the Boston Globe described Obama as delivering "an uncomplicated message" of hope and promise, which I assume she meant as a compliment. Ditto Seth Gitell in the New York Sun, who writes that Obama's candidacy is "is shaping up as the perfected form of the campaign Senator Bradley of New Jersey attempted to run in 2000 and Governor Dean attempted with more success in 2004."

Here's more flavor of the coverage from Adam Nagourney of the New York Times:

"I've never seen anything like this before this early," said Mike Ballantine, a computer programmer from Nashua, as across the room Mr. Obama was surrounded by more than 100 people, many holding up his book and hoping for an autograph. "I mean it's amazing. Really amazing."

And the reality of Mr. Obama -- as opposed to what people had read or seen in weeks of extraordinarily favorable coverage -- struck a chord with some. "I was very impressed with the fact that he wants to bring people together," said Betsy Shultis, a former state representative. "I was very taken with him."

Elizabeth Fairchild, 37, of Rye, N.H., said: "I thought he was fantastic. He exceeded my expectations."

Another swooning Democrat told Dan Balz of the Washington Post , "I do hope he runs. I haven't been so excited by someone since JFK, when he was campaigning when I was 10 years old."

And if likening Obama to Dem icon JFK isn't high enough praise, a 64 year-old artist in Portsmouth went a step further, saying of Obama to reporter Paul West of the Baltimore Sun, "I see him as very messianic."

Originally Posted by Alex

Do you have a link for this?
EDIT-never mind here's one and another here and here and here and here ...looks like the media's 'golden boy' is just another fucking no good scummy crook, jeez.

I loved this line from the Chicago Tribune editorial page on Friday, Nov. 3 "the senator's real estate tie to Rezko threatens to leave Obama hoisted by his ethics petard".

Originally Posted by Danny

Ah yes the neocon attack machine has begun its scrounging for dirt on Obama and the above article is a perfect example.

Originally Posted by Steve

I love how unproven accusations are, so often, all right-wing freaks need...

Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

He's been a "flavor of the month" for over two years now, since that great speech he gave at the 2004 convention, so, he's not going to just evaporate anytimes soon.

So, Obama did business with a guy who is now being prosecuted, I get that, but how does that make Obama bad? He overpaid on the 1/6th of the lot that he bought from Rezko, so it appears that Obama lost out on the deal, so how is that shady exactly? I wonder if Obama wasn't trying to make it look politically "correct" to pay 1/6th of the entire thing instead of at the discount because then people might come out and accuse him of paying a lot less than 1/6th for 1/6th of the lot? Get it. I wonder how much it cost to do the fence? I could even see if Obama was trying to figure that into the deal so that even though the law requires Rezko to pay for the fence, Obama would just add it into the price of the lot. But if that's the case, anyway you look at it, Obama's still the nice guy in the deal because HE LOST! What a non-story. After the whole "Republicans Turn Gay" theme of 2006, this story is soooo weak!

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Originally Posted by Curly

Thanks for the links. I was wondering about that $300K business. From the first link:


Very good deal. I think Obama's subsequent action re: the extra strip of land was fine, but this first one showed poor judgement. It's a deal that most of us (if financially able to) would jump on, but for someone in public office, it doesn't look good.

It's a bump in the road, but nothing more. It will give the clowns on FOX "News" something to talk about, but that's about it.