I do vote third party. Quite frequently. Libertarian usually, but I supported an Independant American once.

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"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

interesting I consider myself closer to libertarian then anything else, yet i am completely opposed to almost all of your views reino, curious.

What are you some sort of liberal extremist? I'm pro guns, pro securing our borders with the military (and giving them police authority), pro-death penalty, and I think gay marriage is a state's rights issue.


metalted=PINKO, COMMIE BASTARD!!!j/k

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

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metalted=PINKO, COMMIE BASTARD!!!j/k[/QUOTE] I personlly would consider that an insult, and complain.

OK. j/k= JOKE!!! I should have used a smiley. Oh well.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

i guess doniston is a proud pinko commy, and would not want me to dirty the good commy pinko name.

Yeah and we need Hillary Klinton and Osama Bin Obama to end the partisanship.

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I guess you gave up on trying to fix your quotes so we differentiate between what someone else said and what you are saying?

Maybe Hillary would have a hard time considering the hell she gets from people like you, but why would Obama not be able to unite us?

Do you have a candidate in mind that would be able to do it?

i actually dont mind obama, clinton, mccain, or guliani. i think i like mccain best. then maybe clinton, and guliani at a tie, then obama. i will support any one. I hope for a clean respectable race, even though theres no way that will happen. and i hope people on both sides support thier new president. please no repeats of bush or clinton slander. :/

The best way to get above or beyond partisanship is to make a decision based on the moral imperative involved in an issue, instead of constantly going with the team "just because". I think it would finally be useful if the ticket was split in 2008. Obama/Hagel would be my dream split ticket. Maybe Richardson/Hagel. Giuliani is a nice guy and everything but without the neo-con fringe and the southern hicks, he doesn't stand a chance. McCain, for my money, has just past his sell by date. McCain running in '08 is like Dole in '96; about 10 or 15 years too late.

Excuse a ferriner butting in but doesn't policy play a part? Or do the Republican Party and the Democratic Party have exactly the same policies?

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Not the same policies, just the best and right way to go about things. Or maybe it's moronic to bring it up, but one party is about teaching kids everything they need to know about sex, the other says "just say no". One side says we ought to do something about global warming, the other says it either is propaganda or that it "needs more study". One side says that people who don't follow the natural path of heterosexuality ought to be granted the same rights while the other side says no to "special rights".

It goes on and on. One side wants to point out whose different in the class by having prayers in schools, the other thinks that prayer should be something done on your own time.

So, yeah, policy plays a part, so the real issue I guess is raising the level of debate in America. Because kids are going to keep having sex for as long there are teenagers, and kids will keep getting beat up as long as you point out everyday who the Jehova's and the Jews are and that they're "different", and global warming will continue despite the neo-con fringe element in America that thinks we should keep our heads in the sand and leave everything to God.

Thanks - then there are policy differences. That being so why the call for the ending of partisanship? Isn't that what politics is? If there were a ticket for President/VP with a Republican/Democratic split how would that work?

If I'm getting the thread off track I'm sorry, just boot it back again. I should add I live in a country with a political history of great differences between various parties (except for the last ten years when everyone has been scrabbing for the safety of the centre) so confict is quite acceptable in politics for mine. But it's a US domestic issue so I'm not taking sides, just asking a question.

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thats a partisan reply to a non partisan question marcel, thats unfortuanate.

I dont think kids having sex is an issue that will make any difference on the ballot. Bush in his last state of the union encouraged the global warming prevention thing.. etc.. well.

of course the main debates are economics and war, any one who says differently is really not informed.

Democrats prefer government social programs, taxing rich to give to poor.
dems, although mostly voting for war in iraq, now mostly either want to create limitations on it, troop level limits, time tables for witdrawls, immediate complete withdrawl from iraq.. etc.

Republicans prefer flat tax rate, and prefer to privatise, atleast limitedly social programs, the believe taxing rich to give to the poor hurts busnesses who in then may layoff people to maintain profit levels.

republicans are confused to what to do with the war, to me, it appears they are evenly split on all ideas.