We are a bit closer now to the primaries so pick your candidate for the Republican ticket. I will only list the major announced contenders so if you pick other tell us why

I like Ron Paul a lot, he's a former Libertarian and falls close to me on most issues.

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I will have to check him out. I am more Libertarian leaning than Republican but I have always had a fondness for Senator Mccain. Plus I would like to win ;o)

Rudy is pretty strong and I agree with him on quite a few issues. the areas of disagreement are minor. I also like Mitt. My bet is a Rudy/Romney ticket VS Clinton/Obambi.

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Hard to say.

Which one of these guys kisses Zionist butt the hardest ?

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I do not dislike Rudy but I do think he is way overrated. For instance one of the biggest things I keep hearing from his strong supporters is how he will be great on foreign policy because of how well he handled 9/11. Now again I sincerely mean no disrespect but what exactly is it that he did during 9/11 that qualifies him for foreign policy? I know he honestly cared and that he was at ground zero pitching in and speaking comfort. But unless I am mistaken the State and Federal governments would have had just about absolute control over the actual situation on the ground. Another reason I would be reluctant to vote for him is because I disagree with him on most of the issues. That being said he is likeable and charismatic and a good creative thinker. If Senator Mccain lost the primary to him I could understand.

Governor Romney however is a different matter. Besides the fact that he comes off (to me at least) as a phony televangelist, I think of all the candidates he is the least honest and the biggest flip-flopper. I would be inclined to vote for a Democrat before I would vote for him because at least with the Democrat I would know the damage ahead of time.

As for Senator Mccain. It pains me that he is going out of his way to court the base (I think this is a result of him losing the last primaries) and his stance on the border really pisses me off. But of all the contenders he still seems to me to be the most sincere. He has a reputation for doing what he thinks is right and is closer too me on almost all of the major issues.

Hagel definitely. I hope he runs

Why Hagel sir?

Mcain......for now still hopeing the democrats actually have a decent candidate this time so i have some choices

he is the most moderate of the Republicans, is opposed to the war, and The Dems have no one worth while running. (This is just "SO FAR", it is still very early)

Here is my thinking:
(Between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton)
Unless Senator Obama implodes he beats Senator Clinton. He is way more charismatic and appeals to a broader base. He also has youth and is a way better public speaker. But primarily he hasn't had to take a stance on much. Senator Clinton has experience and toughness but she isn't liked by the anti-war left and is seen as an above average flip-flopper.

(Between Rudy Guliani and Senator Mccain)
To me this one is much much much closer. They are both about equally charismatic (though that charisma displays itself in different ways) They have also both flip-flopped a bit and have some questionables in their past personal lives and yet both are know for being fairly honest as politicians go. Mr. Guliani has a bit more notoriety with the average person but Senator Mccain has more political muscle. Both believe in things their base does not support but Senator Mccain seems to be just slightly more conservative overall on the issues. Age could be an issue (It hurt Bob Dole)

(Democrat v Republican)
I have said since before the last election that this presidential election would be the dems to lose. President Bush is wildly unpopular and any republican who could make it through the primary would be hurt by association. And yet it seems to me that the democrats may do just that.

Senator Clinton is the worst possible choice for Democrats. If she won the primaries and she would have to face off against either Senator Mccain or Mr. Guliani she would be in a world of hurt. The two republican candidates both do well with moderate democrats and independents. Senator Clinton not only wouldn't do as well in that department but her last name alone would mobilize republicans. I imagine quite a few of them would go out of their way to try to ensure she did not get elected.

Senator Obama is a different story. He is young, charismatic, and hasn't really been forced to do anything unpopular yet. Oh yeah, and did I mention that he is young (LOL)? His youth could be a major weapon against both the afforementioned republican candidates. Also unlike Senator Clinton he could feasibly win the majority of independents, although it is unlikely many republicans will vote for him based if nothing else on his anti-war stances as of late.

So...
Clinton v Guliani (Guliani wins big. People like him and he appeals to liberals,
he could be equated to fictional Pres. Josiah Bartlett)

Clinton v Mccain (Close one, though I give the edge to republicans
because republicans would mobilize and Senator Mccain
has a history of getting independents)

Obama v Guliani (Too close to call)

Obama v Mccain (Close but the edge goes to the republicans because
Senator Mccain's history, and political muscle, will be an
asset.) PLUS I LIKE HIM

On the upside. If these are the candidates we will at the very least be getting for once someone of unquestionable intelligence and good communication skills. No more Al Gore or President George Bush II type candidates.

First choice is Ron Paul, but I know he won't get enough traction to be a truly competing candidate. So, that makes my second choice Newt Gingrich, but he may not even run. So, that makes my next choice Rudy Giuliani.

Rudy Giuliani demonstrated his ability to be a leader. He single-handedly cleaned up New York City and he has shown by his words that he won't take any shit from anyone in the War on Terror. He has good low tax, less spending, economic policies and also appeals to more centrist Republicans and Democrats. I think he would bend over and spank whoever his Democrat opponent is in the General. If you want a Republican in the White House again, he is a no-brainer.

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I'm not a Republican supporter at all, but I think your ticket is pretty close to the mark, with my only suggestion is that I'd reverse it. I think Rudy is running for the VPs slot. I can't see him with even a remote chance of capturing the GOP nomination as the GOP after having spent the past 30 years courting the conservative vote aren't about to anoint a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage candidate. No, I think he's running to generate some initial support which will then propel him into serious consideration for VP.

A Clinton/Obama ticket would be incredibly strong ... almost as strong as Gore/Obama....

Great timing, I just found this site and was looking for someplace to post it. I think Fred Thompson would walk away with the election.

Draft Fred Thompson - Index

I found it as a link off of an AOL Blog. And I thought I was the only one...

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This is about the most intelligent and objective discussion of the '08 race I've seen on the whole net.

Hillary is too hated by the right. They'd resurrect dead people to vote against her. She still might win, but it would a squeaker at best. (Who knows, though, when women get in the booth alone - maybe a Dewey/Truman thing.)

Gore/Obama is the strongest ticket for the Dems I can imagine. Gore has completely shucked any Clinton "taint", he's overweight but looks healthy, and Obama supplies an immense amount of charisma and excitement. It also would create a chance for a "do-over" on the 2000 vote that a lot of people wish they had.

Rudy provides a similar opportunity for the R-party, with a chance to regain the sense of purpose after 9-11 which was so horribly squandered. I doubt Rudy as VP for anyone, he's more of a Perot-type who can't operate as 2nd in command.

I doubt Romney for VP for either Rudy or McCain. He makes them both look like great-grandpas. They'll put in someone who is a hard-liner on illegal immigration, and hit that hard as a wedge issue.

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