Visit the U.S. Politics Online Discussion Forum Archives!

Sponsored by:

U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum  

Bookmark Us! E-Mail DONATE NOW! Photo Gallery Document Archives Quiz! Register to Vote!!!
Go Back   U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum > Current Events > Political Parties, Campaigns & Elections

Political Parties, Campaigns & Elections A forum to discuss political parties and elections/campaigns in general.

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
  #136 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2007
BlackAsCoal's Avatar
BlackAsCoal BlackAsCoal is offline
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member

 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 1,299

United_States    
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by CYDdharta View Post
FDT is close to McCain, but it’s hardly hero-worship, Thompson is nobody’s shill. He had a reputation for being a maverick in the senate, similar to McCain, (not to imply he agree with McCain on every issue). If his beliefs differed from the GOP party line, he wasn’t afraid to vote against them. On another board, I read he was the lone voice dissenting a bill that would have created a federal good Samaritan law because he felt it was an issue that the states should decide.



From the articles I’ve been reading it sounds like he’s going to run, but I’m obviously biased. I won’t be able to judge his determination until I’ve seen him on the campaign trail. As you said, only time will tell.
As I've said, there are admirable qualities in Thompson and he appears, other than Ron Paul, to be the most sane among republican candidates. But if he's going to run he will have to step away from Bush on the war, unlike McCain. If he doesn't, he's doomed to failure.
Reply With Quote
  #137 (permalink)  
Old 04-27-2007
Danny's Avatar
Danny Danny is offline
Rahmbo will get it done

 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 3,274

Canada     United_States

Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

I like Thompson. I respect him despite the fact that he is a conservative because he appears to have moral integrity.
Reply With Quote
  #138 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2007
goober's Avatar
goober goober is offline
President

 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,333

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Fred Thompson is the unknown quantity, that sparkles in the distance, and seems all the brighter as we examine the known quantities of Romney, Giuliani and McCain.
But brought into the light, and the scrutiny that he will surely face, a lot will come out, we just don't know that much about him, and I'm betting that if what we don't know was all good, it would be pretty well publicized right now.
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address
Reply With Quote
  #139 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2007
CYDdharta's Avatar
CYDdharta CYDdharta is online now
Moderator

 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 4,289

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
But brought into the light, and the scrutiny that he will surely face, a lot will come out, we just don't know that much about him, and I'm betting that if what we don't know was all good, it would be pretty well publicized right now.


Don't you mean "if what we don't know was all bad, it would be pretty well publicized right now." Our media thrives on gossip and negative reporting. Positive stories don't sell nearly as many newspapers as negative ones.
__________________
Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos
Reply With Quote
  #140 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2007
goober's Avatar
goober goober is offline
President

 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,333

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by CYDdharta View Post
Don't you mean "if what we don't know was all bad, it would be pretty well publicized right now." Our media thrives on gossip and negative reporting. Positive stories don't sell nearly as many newspapers as negative ones.
No, I mean that if Fred Thompson won the Medal of Honor, set up a camp for crippled children, and volunteered at a homeless shelter every weekend we would already know, that kind of stuff is what fills press releases.

Fred Thompson hasn't had the full spotlight of public scrutiny turned on him yet.
But if he does run, the same political machine that did hit jobs on John McCain and John Kerry will be aimed at him, and it will dig out, and make up what it can't dig out, enough to take the shine off the apple.

He was an attorney, a lobbyist and spent 20 years in Hollywood, if you don't think that theres some spinnable negatives in that you are beyond naive.

When a new candidate appears, the first blast of information is all positive, and people tend to fill in the blanks with what they hope to find there.
As the blanks get filled in with reality, the picture becomes less glorious, that's all I'm saying.
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address
Reply With Quote
  #141 (permalink)  
Old 04-28-2007
clueless clueless is offline
Citizen

 
Member Since: Apr 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 10

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Thompson is probably winning more points by not running. If he wants to run, I think he'll let the current crop of candidates campaign and spend their money for several more months.

By the middle of summer a lot of people will probably be sick and tired of the never ending campaign, and then Thompson can enter the race as the fresh face. He'd still have plenty of time to put together a campaign. He'll probably jump to the front of the republican line, but his honeymoon period will be short.

It is a little odd, at least to me, that the conservatives are once again ready to turn Hollywood for a candidate. Maybe I shouldn't be since it worked out pretty well for them last time.

I think the only certainty is that by the time Nov 2008 rolls around the majority of people regardless of party will be sick to death of the presidential campaign. It's hard to believe that the election is is 18 months away.

Last edited by clueless; 04-28-2007 at 03:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #142 (permalink)  
Old 04-29-2007
CYDdharta's Avatar
CYDdharta CYDdharta is online now
Moderator

 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 4,289

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
No, I mean that if Fred Thompson won the Medal of Honor, set up a camp for crippled children, and volunteered at a homeless shelter every weekend we would already know, that kind of stuff is what fills press releases.

Fred Thompson hasn't had the full spotlight of public scrutiny turned on him yet.
But if he does run, the same political machine that did hit jobs on John McCain and John Kerry will be aimed at him, and it will dig out, and make up what it can't dig out, enough to take the shine off the apple.

He was an attorney, a lobbyist and spent 20 years in Hollywood, if you don't think that theres some spinnable negatives in that you are beyond naive.

When a new candidate appears, the first blast of information is all positive, and people tend to fill in the blanks with what they hope to find there.
As the blanks get filled in with reality, the picture becomes less glorious, that's all I'm saying.


Spinnable negatives are what fill the press. The major media rarely rises above the muck it rakes. FDT has already been the target of hit pieces, but they have yet to come up with anything serious. He has already publically addressed what are considered to be his biggest potential problems. If there were any significant skeletons in his closet, I don’t think he’d even consider running, as he would know it would be dredged up. I think in order for the rumors and innuendo to have any real traction, it’s going to have to come out before he starts campaigning. He connects well with people.
__________________
Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos
Reply With Quote
  #143 (permalink)  
Old 04-29-2007
Miscreantgnomie's Avatar
Miscreantgnomie Miscreantgnomie is offline
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
The Witty Sarcastic Gnome

 
Member Since: Jul 2006
Location: Castroville Texas
Posts: 1,626

United_States     Texas

Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

the More I learn about the man the more I like.

I liked his stand in for Paul Harvey and now I heard abc is going to make same sort of thing for Thompson.

i look forward to that.
__________________
Hardcore Conservative !

I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.

Reply With Quote
  #144 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2007
BlackAsCoal's Avatar
BlackAsCoal BlackAsCoal is offline
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member

 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 1,299

United_States    
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Thompson still remains a big question mark. Because he's not running he hasn't had to come forward and explain his politics or thoughts on the war. If he comes out guns-a-blazin' for the war, he'll be as dead as John McCain, who he seems to admire.

His remaining in the dark may be a positive for him now, but at sometime he's going to have to step into the light.
Reply With Quote
  #145 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2007
CYDdharta's Avatar
CYDdharta CYDdharta is online now
Moderator

 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 4,289

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
Thompson still remains a big question mark. Because he's not running he hasn't had to come forward and explain his politics or thoughts on the war. If he comes out guns-a-blazin' for the war, he'll be as dead as John McCain, who he seems to admire.

His remaining in the dark may be a positive for him now, but at sometime he's going to have to step into the light.


He hasn’t said much, but he opposes time tables. It sounds like he wants to leave strategy to the Generals; a wise decision, as military experience is one area in which Thompson is lacking. Then again he may lean on his running mate on military matters, depending on who that ends up being.

Possible candidate Thompson opposes timetable for Iraq pullout - Newsday.com
__________________
Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos
Reply With Quote
  #146 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2007
goober's Avatar
goober goober is offline
President

 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,333

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Nashville is filling up with opposition research types, looking for dirt on Thompson, the word is that this wave is from his Republican Primary opponents.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/in...&news_id=55917
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address
Reply With Quote
  #147 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2007
CYDdharta's Avatar
CYDdharta CYDdharta is online now
Moderator

 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 4,289

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

So Thompson running is a lock, Good News. Thanx Goober.
__________________
Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos
Reply With Quote
  #148 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2007
goober's Avatar
goober goober is offline
President

 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,333

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

so does he oppose the war, like 60% of the voters, or does he support it.

Either way, once he starts taking positions, he starts losing his shine.
And we don't know what those opposition research people will come up with, but we'll have a clue when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth change their name.
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address
Reply With Quote
  #149 (permalink)  
Old 05-01-2007
CYDdharta's Avatar
CYDdharta CYDdharta is online now
Moderator

 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: PA
Posts: 4,289

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by goober View Post
so does he oppose the war, like 60% of the voters, or does he support it.

Either way, once he starts taking positions, he starts losing his shine.
And we don't know what those opposition research people will come up with, but we'll have a clue when the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth change their name.

This is the only thing I could find about FDT’s stance on the war.

It appears that he doesn’t oppose the war, but he doesn’t approve of the way it’s been waged. It looks like he’ll rely on the judgment of the commanders in the field.
__________________
Election 2008 – Addicted to Placebos
Reply With Quote
  #150 (permalink)  
Old 05-01-2007
goober's Avatar
goober goober is offline
President

 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 10,333

   
Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

Quote:
Originally Posted by CYDdharta View Post
This is the only thing I could find about FDT’s stance on the war.

It appears that he doesn’t oppose the war, but he doesn’t approve of the way it’s been waged. It looks like he’ll rely on the judgment of the commanders in the field.
A Commander in Chief who defers to the judgment of subordinates isn't really a commander is he?

Either he supports the war or he doesn't, he's either for getting out or getting in in a bigger way.

While he's not in office, and not running for office, he can defer and be equivocal, but once he announces, he's got to answer the questions or he looks indecisive, and the reality of the upcoming election is that the position that wins the GOP primary, loses the General election.
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/political-parties-campaigns-elections/36709-fred-thompson-considering-run-white-house-merger.html
Posted By For Type Date
Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House (merger) - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum This thread Refback 05-29-2007 09:18 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright © 2000 - 2008 U.S. Politics Online