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He's a freakin' actor, you think he doesn't know how to manipulate public perception; people watch actors on television for years, and think they know them somehow. Talk is cheap

As opposed to ... politicians???

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Re: Fred Thompson considering a run at the White House

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He's a freakin' actor, you think he doesn't know how to manipulate public perception;
You mean, like a politician? Kissing babies while grabbing your wallet. Bill Clinton did it, Gerald Ford did it, Reagan did it, Washiington did it, Kennedy did it...... Need I go on? Politicians do this better than actors. They get you excited over them, convince you to vote for them, then they break their promises and you vote for them again.

"I did not have sex with that woman" and people believed it. "I never worked so hard in my life and I just couldn't give the middle class a tax break" and you believed it.
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Chuck Norris wasn’t a Senator or the Senate Watergate Committee's chief minority counsel. He didn’t even play one on TV.
Does someone have to be a Senator or a lawyer or play either on TV before they can be president?
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Australians are the new Canadians. Cant even bother to check their facts. Besides, Jack Bauer would kick Chucks ass.
I'll take the first part as a compliment.

The facts bit - I've asked about that.

Jack (born in London, England) Bauer's dad (Canadian) was a doped up tank commander in WWII and a bloody funny one at that
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Does someone have to be a Senator or a lawyer or play either on TV before they can be president?

Of course not, Ross Perot did quite well for a third party candidate in ’92. Then again, someone with no communications experience can set up a LAN. He/She can do it, but they’re not well suited for the job. The Presidency is a government job, and as such, familiarity with the way government operates is invaluable. A presidential candidate who has no experience in the inner-workings of the government is unlikely to be an effective leader.
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Oh I'm sorry I thought you knew something about Fred Thompson, my bad, here are a few highlights of his voting record:

Voted Yes on use of military force against Iraq.
Voted Yes on killing an increase to the minimum wage.
What is so bad about letting the employee and employer come to terms regarding a job that the employee and employer work at and own, respectively? Do you think the government should own everything and make those decisions?
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Voted No on adopting Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
What is wrong with nuclear tests? Although I agree with the hypocrisy in terms of invading Iraq because of WMDs while the US continues to test them.
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Voted Yes on deploying "Star Wars" missile defense shield.
Why is this bad? Is it a waste of money or something?
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Voted No on banning chemical weapons.
While I don't see a problem with this on the surface, I agree that it is hypocritical to support invading Iraq because of WMDs while owning and selling them yourself.
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Voted Yes on oil drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Preserve
What is wrong with that?
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Voted Yes on terminating CAFÉ fuel efficiency standards.
Shouldn't it be up to the car owners and manufacturers?
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Voted Yes on defunding renewable and solar energy.
Again, like the Star Wars missile defense system, this depends on whether or not it was a waste of money. Was it?
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Voted Yes on banning military base abortions.
Voted Yes on banning so-called "partial birth" abortions.
Voted No on adding sexual orientation to the definition of hate crimes.
The entire idea of "hate crimes" is stupid. Glad he didn't fall for another one.
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Voted No on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation.
Why is that so wrong? Shouldn't I get to decide with whom I do business?
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Voted No on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities and women.
Didn't you just complain about sex discrimination for jobs, and now you complain about a vote against sex and race discrimination?
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Voted Yes on constitutional Amendment banning flag burning.
Voted Yes on limiting product liability punitive damage awards.
This depends on the technicalities involved. If it's about some idiot who used his toaster in the bathtub, then I can see why he would vote yes.
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Voted Yes on restricting class-action lawsuits.
Voted Yes on school vouchers.
What is wrong with that?
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Voted No on background checks at gun shows.
Why should people have to prove anything to use a Constitutional right? Should you be forced to get a background check before you get access to a free speech zone?
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Voted Yes on selling guns without trigger locks
And? What is the problem?
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Voted No on allowing reimportation of prescription drugs from Canada
Voted No on allowing patients to sue HMOs and collect punitive damages.
Voted Yes on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress.
And what is the problem here?
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Voted No on increasing tax deductions for college tuition.
IMO we need to throw out the government and start over from scratch, where the tax on anything will be lower, but I agree that people shouldn't get special treatment because they are getting education.
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Looks like a mini-Reagan to me, and frankly this country doesn't need any more of that; like I said, a neo-con's wet dream.

No thanks, I've had enough, America has had enough. By the time the Democrats finish with the Bush administration, being a Republican't will be like having leprosy.
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Of course not, Ross Perot did quite well for a third party candidate in ’92. Then again, someone with no communications experience can set up a LAN. He/She can do it, but they’re not well suited for the job. The Presidency is a government job, and as such, familiarity with the way government operates is invaluable. A presidential candidate who has no experience in the inner-workings of the government is unlikely to be an effective leader.
So Chuck can stand for president!
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So Chuck can stand for president!

As far as I know, the only thing keeping Mr. Norris out of the White House is his own desire and, I suspect, a majority of the voters.
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You mean, like a politician? Kissing babies while grabbing your wallet. Bill Clinton did it, Gerald Ford did it, Reagan did it, Washiington did it, Kennedy did it...... Need I go on? Politicians do this better than actors. They get you excited over them, convince you to vote for them, then they break their promises and you vote for them again.

"I did not have sex with that woman" and people believed it. "I never worked so hard in my life and I just couldn't give the middle class a tax break" and you believed it.
Yea, and your point being? Fred Thompson is an actor and a politician, which makes him a master bull-shit artist.

I never believed Bill Clinton didn't have sex with Monica, I just didn't fucking care. Who the fuck would assign a special prosecutor to question the President about an affair in the oval office? Republicans of course.
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Yea, and your point being? Fred Thompson is an actor and a politician, which makes him a master bull-shit artist.

I never believed Bill Clinton didn't have sex with Monica, I just didn't fucking care. Who the fuck would assign a special prosecutor to question the President about an affair in the oval office? Republicans of course.

I’m curious as to what your point is. You prefer amateur bullshit artists to professionals?
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I'll take the first part as a compliment.

The facts bit - I've asked about that.

Jack (born in London, England) Bauer's dad (Canadian) was a doped up tank commander in WWII and a bloody funny one at that
I thought he was talking about Jack Bauer, the fictional character played by the little short bloke on that TV show 24. The one who would probably faint if he hadn't learnt his lines let alone if he saw real blood!

Chuck Norris!! LOL How his name suits him...every time I see him poncing around pretending to be tough - I want to chuck!
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I was being flippant of course. btw you'd be pleased with Carlton winning the NAB cup (just a little threadjack there).
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Yea, and your point being? Fred Thompson is an actor and a politician, which makes him a master bull-shit artist.

I never believed Bill Clinton didn't have sex with Monica, I just didn't fucking care. Who the fuck would assign a special prosecutor to question the President about an affair in the oval office? Republicans of course.
If you don't see it, then I don't think I can help you. It's pretty obvious. Politicians are BS artists as well as actors. So to say Fred is a bad choice due to being an actor is pretty weak. In fact, very weak.
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If you don't see it, then I don't think I can help you. It's pretty obvious. Politicians are BS artists as well as actors. So to say Fred is a bad choice due to being an actor is pretty weak. In fact, very weak.
Actually...

... Fred Thompson is a bad choice because he's a Republican and as such CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
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If you don't see it, then I don't think I can help you. It's pretty obvious. Politicians are BS artists as well as actors. So to say Fred is a bad choice due to being an actor is pretty weak. In fact, very weak.
Did you just enter the room, I don't base my objections on such trivial issues, though some on this thread are willing to give him a pass based on public comments he's made, which is a pretty weak reason, considering that he is an accomplished conservative bullshit artist, and an actor.
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