Originally Posted by Angry American

Oh I'm sorry I thought you knew something about Fred Thompson, my bad, here are a few highlights of his voting record:

Voted Yes on use of military force against Iraq.
Voted Yes on killing an increase to the minimum wage.
Voted No on adopting Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
Voted Yes on deploying "Star Wars" missile defense shield.
Voted No on banning chemical weapons.
Voted Yes on oil drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Preserve
Voted Yes on terminating CAFÉ fuel efficiency standards.
Voted Yes on defunding renewable and solar energy.
Voted Yes on banning military base abortions.
Voted Yes on banning so-called "partial birth" abortions.
Voted No on adding sexual orientation to the definition of hate crimes.
Voted No on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation.
Voted No on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities and women.
Voted Yes on constitutional Amendment banning flag burning.
Voted Yes on limiting product liability punitive damage awards.
Voted Yes on restricting class-action lawsuits.
Voted Yes on school vouchers.
Voted No on background checks at gun shows.
Voted Yes on selling guns without trigger locks
Voted No on allowing reimportation of prescription drugs from Canada
Voted No on allowing patients to sue HMOs and collect punitive damages.
Voted Yes on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress.
Voted No on increasing tax deductions for college tuition.

Originally Posted by Diuretic

I think your political system is broken.

Perhaps it's time to re-think it.

If people are having mini-orgasms over an actor for president ("is this deja vu all over again?") then why not draft Chuck Norris? He's tougher than Fred. AND he wasn't just a DA, he was Delta Force and Walker-Texas Ranger.

Are you people getting acid flashbacks or what? Did you all eat ergot-infected bread for the last ten years?

Originally Posted by Johnny K

Actually...

... Fred Thompson is a bad choice because he's a Republican and as such CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

Originally Posted by SamInTheBurgh

Oh, thanks for that thoughtful insight. You've contributed greatly to the discussion. Now if you don't mind, go run along and play. The adults are trying to have a conversation.

Originally Posted by Johnny K

I'll not be directed by you or anyone like you as to where I'll go or what I'll do. Frankly sir, I don't give a damn about your opinion of me or my "thoughts" or my "insights."

Originally Posted by bigTlilODD

If you don't see it, then I don't think I can help you. It's pretty obvious. Politicians are BS artists as well as actors. So to say Fred is a bad choice due to being an actor is pretty weak. In fact, very weak.

Originally Posted by SamInTheBurgh

His voting record sounds wonderful to me. I disagree on a few of his votes, but overall, simply excellent.



Unfortunately for you, history isn't on your side. Reagan won in a landslide both times and would have won a third term if he could have run again. Another Ronald Reagan is exactly what people are looking for.

Originally Posted by Angry American

Did you just enter the room, I don't base my objections on such trivial issues, though some on this thread are willing to give him a pass based on public comments he's made, which is a pretty weak reason, considering that he is an accomplished conservative bullshit artist, and an actor.

Originally Posted by Angry American

Not to mention Fred Thompson helping to raise over $4 million for the Libby defense fund. Libby the convicted felon who obstructed an investigation into the biggest government cover-up since Watergate; but your party loyalties apparently absolves all malfeasance.

Originally Posted by bigTlilODD

WHAT? But you did base your objections on trivial matters. You complained about him being an actor and that seems pretty trivial to me. It took awhile to get you to bring up a few votes that you disagree with. You willing complained about him being an actor and we had to ask you several times to come up with something of substance. So that shows me what your core concerns are.

Doesn't Libby, as with all Americans, deserve a good defense? And he was not convicted at the time the defense fund was started.

Originally Posted by Angry American

Just another right-wing bigot, I thought I liked him because of his acting, but then I herd him speak as a congressman, and he's a conservative's wet dream, a right-wing bigot!

Originally Posted by Angry American

Not to mention Fred Thompson helping to raise over $4 million for the Libby defense fund. Libby the convicted felon who obstructed an investigation into the biggest government cover-up since Watergate; but your party loyalties apparently absolves all malfeasance.

Originally Posted by Angry American

I posted some of my concerns about his voting record 2 pages ago. Yea, my real concern is that he's an actor. What ever makes you feel good, I guess.

Oooh, where do I sign up to get high profile political big wigs to set up a defense fund for all Americans?

Libby was guilty before he was convicted, just as Bush, Cheney, and Rove are guilty of violating virtually every procedural law on the books, i.e. the National Security Act of 1947, and the Presidental Records Act (before you ask for proof, I've already highlighted some of this on another tread here.)

Unless every current Republican is willing to hang up their hats and go home, and a fresh crop of new, uncorrupted, scrupulous Republicans take their place, I wouldn't vote for anyone from that Party, until they end their politics of division, and corporate favoritism.

Originally Posted by Diuretic

I'll take the first part as a compliment.

The facts bit - I've asked about that.

Jack (born in London, England) Bauer's dad (Canadian) was a doped up tank commander in WWII and a bloody funny one at that

Originally Posted by jviehe

No, that would be Kiefer. Jack would kick his ass too.