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View Poll Results: Which potential candidate would have the best chances IF nominated?
Joe Biden 1 3.85%
Hillary Rodham Clinton 4 15.38%
Christopher Dodd 1 3.85%
John Edwards 6 23.08%
Mike Gravel 0 0%
Dennis Kucinich 1 3.85%
Barack Obama 11 42.31%
Bill Richardson 7 26.92%
Wesley Clark 0 0%
Al Gore 4 15.38%
Al Sharpton 0 0%
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Old 03-27-2007
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

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Al Gore is polling at 17% while he keeps insisting that he's not running. We'll know for sure that he's not running when he backs one of the candidates. Gore, even if he doesn't run, could really decide this race by who he tells his supporters to go to. If he backs Edwards, that could completely change things. Or if he were to back Bill Richardson.

But if Gore were to throw his hat in the ring, I think he could run the campaign he's always wanted to run by just speaking his mind instead of agonizing over small details. He's a big-picture guy now who can connect with a crowd, and he's from the south, he's the perfect alternative to Obama or Clinton, he's got tonnes of experience.
First of all, the last time Gore endorsed someone in a democratic primary, they immediately plummetted in the polls and dropped out soon there after.

Gore is no "big picture" guy who can "connect with a crowd"? LMFAO!!!!! He still preaches very much to the choir, and comes across as incredibly condescening. And people tolerate endless talk far more than bad policy, and if he runs for President, he is going to have to propose solid policies he would implement, all of which would cost him potential votes, add that the the heightened attention and importance people would place on his personal hypocasy...hell, I hope they do nominate Gore.

And as for being from the South? Gore didn't win a single southern state in 2000 (including his own...becoming one of the only presidential candidates WINNERS OR LOSERS to lose their own home state in as long as I remember).

Like Edwards, Gore is a North East liberal who just happens to be from the South, he is not a southerner.
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

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I think it would have to be either Richardson or Edwards. Both are less liberal that most of the other candidates
Hmmm i dunno about that; Edwards has apologised and said his vote for the war was a mistake and Richardson's record as NM governor is fairly liberal too. Interestingly he thinks its the job of the feds to secure the border along Napolitano, and even though its probably because of budgeting issues or whatever he doesn't seem to think states have much rights or responsibilities. Also he mandates that every person right a resignation form that he can accept whenever he chooses whithin his administration when he first appoints them. Edwards with his whole trial lawyer career and channeling dead babies has hardly put himself off as a moderate.
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Hmmm i dunno about that; Edwards has apologised and said his vote for the war was a mistake and Richardson's record as NM governor is fairly liberal too. Interestingly he thinks its the job of the feds to secure the border along Napolitano, and even though its probably because of budgeting issues or whatever he doesn't seem to think states have much rights or responsibilities. Also he mandates that every person right a resignation form that he can accept whenever he chooses whithin his administration when he first appoints them. Edwards with his whole trial lawyer career and channeling dead babies has hardly put himself off as a moderate.
Everybody and their mother is backing away from the war Traveler. Look at the polls if you need proof. The numbers are still in the 60% range of people that want out and it is climbing.

It is the job of the feds to patrol and monitor an international border. NM can't make treaties with Mexico over immigration on the Fed can. So it is in fact their responsibility. If people go into thie jobs understanding that this resignation is their ahead of time and still take the job they have made a decisiion. It may be that he is more liberal in internal NM policies, but none of the two issues you used here dissuades me about is longterm viability. His big issue will be campaign finances and can he get enough of them.
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

Either way he's going nowhere, but Hillary does have the money and is now seen as the centrist or moderate candidate within the Democratic party. I don't think she's more liberal than Edwards; its just i can't see the dems not nominating someone who's not a white man.
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Either way he's going nowhere, but Hillary does have the money and is now seen as the centrist or moderate candidate within the Democratic party. I don't think she's more liberal than Edwards; its just i can't see the dems not nominating someone who's not a white man.
Where do you get that she is seen as a centrist or moderate. Certainly not to this moderate and I doubt many are being taken in. Sure that is what the liberal wing of the Dem party is trying to do but I am not sure it is working
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Clear lead for Barack Obama ... Clinton falling behind ... at least in this poll.
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Clear lead for Barack Obama ... Clinton falling behind ... at least in this poll.
Actually, from my superficial analysis, if I HAD to guess, I would call it for Obama.
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

Obama, at least now, I think has a far better chance than the rest.

He will get virtually 100% of the black vote, Dem or Reps.
He would get a boost from blacks that don't normally vote.

He is likely to get a high % of Spanish votes as well.

Add all that up together, and you have a big starting point to win the election.
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Obama, at least now, I think has a far better chance than the rest.

He will get virtually 100% of the black vote, Dem or Reps.
He would get a boost from blacks that don't normally vote.

He is likely to get a high % of Spanish votes as well.

Add all that up together, and you have a big starting point to win the election.
Are you talking about the General? I was referring to the Primary, but, hey, I wouldn't complain if you were right too.
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

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Obama, at least now, I think has a far better chance than the rest.

He will get virtually 100% of the black vote, Dem or Reps.
He would get a boost from blacks that don't normally vote.

He is likely to get a high % of Spanish votes as well.

Add all that up together, and you have a big starting point to win the election.
Mr. Obama has not, to any great extent, laid out any issues other than the Iraq war. This is due that he is trying to win the primary. Once the primary is finished, we will then see if the numbers rise, stay flat, or drop.

On the other hand, Ms. Clinton is primarily running on health care and the Iraq war. Although she is currently losing the financial battle, it does not always mean one will win if one spends the most money.
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Re: Chances of Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election?

Hillary still has to be considered the front runner. She's close to 20 points ahead of Obama, and either her or Edwards would absolutely cream him in a policy debate (check out the recent forum on health care in Las Vegas, he didn't come off looking very good).

On the other hand, personal connections with the public matter more for the presidency than any other office in American politics. People didn't vote for JFK because of his mastery of policy.
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Hillary still has to be considered the front runner. She's close to 20 points ahead of Obama, and either her or Edwards would absolutely cream him in a policy debate (check out the recent forum on health care in Las Vegas, he didn't come off looking very good).

On the other hand, personal connections with the public matter more for the presidency than any other office in American politics. People didn't vote for JFK because of his mastery of policy.

I'm surprised by this really. I must admit that she does have a good grasp on policy rather than offering vague positions without any applicable detail such as Obama offers. Then again Richardson also has a huge amount of experience and really can do the same to a certain extent. I think she really gets more of a boost because of her husband than anything. I really it would be nice to have a woman president but I sure wish it could be somebody else.
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