Today’s AOL poll, which has over 50% of the respondents say they want Fred Thompson to run, suggests that the dissatisfaction isn’t with Conservatism, it’s with the Conservatives currently in Congress and the White House.

The Daily Pulse, March 28- How Do the Republicans Rank Now? - AOL News

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I think America really wants the Democratic Party in power a lot of the time, but then they go out and campaign like sissies while the other side plays to win. Elections should be treated like streetfights. I doubt current polls about where people stand on either party. I think both parties are around 45% strong while about 10% is undecided. I don't really think things have changed too much since the 2000 elections. The next contest will probably be within the 3 or 4% margin, just like the last few elections. It's the Democrats' to lose, they've got in the palm of their hands that block of independent voters who are pissed with Bush but who voted for him in 2000 and then stuck with him with reservation in 2004.

no one but you has told me what the dems want goober

no one wants your country vision goober

only you and your extreme fringe minority would want a one party one vision rule which is pretty much what you said my favorite part is the republican party "being a answer to a trivia question"


have another read goober........

don't want impeachment, I want 65 Democratic Senators, and 300 Democratic Representatives, and Democrat in the White House in 2008, and 42 Democratic State Houses gerrymandering the fuck out of the political map in 2011.

I want "The Republican Party" to be the answer to a trivia question in 2020.

And it looks like I am getting what I want, I just hope they drag out the hearings a little and save the really juicy stuff for October 2008.


your words ....ya you want them around sure ............partisan non patriotic statements if you ask me but allowed by the patriot police since you are a liberal

Republicans and Republican values are one kind of right (conservative) and Democrats and Democratic values are another (liberal).

Left is socialism, and USA is not moving to the left.

And this is mainly because most colleges professors are leftists. In addition to this, you dems are going to get about 70% of the 12 to 20 million new voters once the illegals get ammnesty. A-effing-mazing that many Republicans are buying into this. About the only reason why I can think of is they are getting donations from businesses who want cheap labor (and some Repubicans may belong to the CFR).

It's already been reported that Medicare and Medicaid are going to bankrupt the country. These are leftist mistakes who's effects will be felt in a decade or so.

Kramer

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TheNation, June 7, 2007

See I left room for 136 Republican Representatives and 35 Republican Senators. As far as statehouses go, the GOP launched a strategy to capture statehouses and gerrymander the hell out of whatever they could in order to raise their seat counts, paybacks a bitch, isn't it?

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

ya nice try just remember everytime you start your "holier than though act"

I am gonna post this tirade you sent

just to show you and your ilk and your buddies on here like sam all want what you complained about for 6 years

no checks and balances cheers goober have a great weekend i hope it is peachy

I think Goober is wrong in his interpretation. This is only good for the Dems if they stay away from the old traditional liberal claptrap. Look at Carter for an example of how well that was recieved. However the country has also clearly rejected the conservative model. Look who the Dems won with in 06. It wasn't the traditional liberal Dem candidate. They won with moderate and conservative dems. What this means is that the country is once again turning to the middle, partly in fact mainly because it is tired of the rhetoric that produces no action. The arrogance of both sides. The constant refrain of we care about the American people or we are looking out for the American people when clearly neither is true. The county isn't going to turn to the left even using the US definition of the left. It is going back home, to the center.

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Hail Satan!

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wow thats pretty funny

True conservatism hasn't existed in the US for decades. It died when Nixon and Reagan laid the foundations for the Radical Right.

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It's the center that wants National Health.
It's the center that wants Public education to include college.
It's the center that wants Social Security.

These are all the things that the right vilified as a "radical left Agenda", but it's what the people want. The people would also like to see some restraint in militaristic adventurism, at least to the point where we only pick fights we can win.

The right played a good game, they used wedge issues and fake wars to get in a position to alter the tax structure and deliver trillions to the wealthiest Americans, who after all, finance the right.

They had their shot, and they blew it on all fronts, and now we can go back to leaders who actually seek to build an America that works for all Americans.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Goober you are wrong. I can only speak for a comparitively small group of people I am friends with who are all centrists but it is not national health care we want. We want a better system that is a given, but the last thing we want is another huge government run entitlement program. I have never heard a tue centrist call for college education to be publically finded. This is an agenda item of the left not the center. I would have no problems providing more aid and easier terms on loans, but that is a far cry from free college education. About the only thing you got right, and even then not all the way, if SSI. While most of my friends are in favor of continuing SSI in its current format we are not opposed to tinkering with it to make it something more stable and beneficial to those in the future. After all most of us assumed upon retirement SSI would not be there when we were in our 20's.

The agenda you defined above is a liberal agenda. I am not nor have I been for over thirty years one of the righties you refer to, but I can still deliniate between the left the right and the center. You are right when you claim the conservatives overplayed their hand, but they were no worse at it then when liberals were in power for 40 years it just took them a lot less time to get the public fed up with them thats all.

Goober I have read your posts and you as well as Samantha who your ideas are closely related to are not centrists. That doesn't make you a bad person unamerican or anything like that, but lets ask ourselves why you would wish to portray your agenda as a centrist agenda. It reinforces the lessons we have learned in the 06 election. THe Dems took a gamble and it paid off for them in the short run but the jury is still out on whether it will be an advantage in the long run or not. COnservatives banked on the fact that when they told themselves this is a conservatve nation they were right. Well based on the Euro definition of conservatism they may have been but not based on the US definition, especially when you throw in the fact that som much of their rhetoric is social conservative based even if their policies aren't. So the Dems went out in 06 and tried to find moderate and conservative Dems to challenge Repubs in areas they thought the Repubs were vulnerable. THey kept the same liberal Dems in the districts they thought were safe and even tossed a fairly liberal Dems for a more liberal Dem in one state. Their moderate to cinservative strategy paid off but these are not the traditional Dems and they are going to have to face that in some close congresional elections these new Dems are not always going to go the same way the liberal leadership wants it to.

Now in the areas where the Dem candidate was safe the liberal won, no suprises there. But in Connecticut the Dems got their butts handed to them. They threw out one good fairly lib candidate for a much more lib candidate. The voters promptly rejected the more lib candidate, in the northeast of all places. This and the moderate Dem victories are all the proof you need that this is not a liberal nation, nor a conservative nation. It is in fact a nation that is happy with a confluence of the two ideologies, taking the best from each and rejecting the chaff of each. As I said in my last post the nation is finding its way home again to the center. We are tired of all the partisan bickering and name calling. That approach has not solved any of our problems and created divisions we just can't afford in this time.

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Gort: "Klaatu barada nikto." Sucker. You fell for the fried ice cream hook, like and sinker.

I don't know who your friends are or what their politics are...but the VAST middle of America wants Single-Payer Healthcare run by the government...and they wouldn't mind higher taxes to get it. In case you haven't been paying attention--and the radical right is notoriously deficient in that repect--the US is the ONLY First World country that doesn't have it. The. Only. One. What we have is a system whose parameters are dictated by those least qualified to be in charge: The HMO's, the insurance companies and Big Pharma. America spends more than any country in the world for healthcare and gets the least return on the investment.

Wanna see what cheap-labor conservative ideals have dome to America? Let's go to the videotape!

The Index of Social Progress, released by the Fifth International Conference of the International Society for Life Quality Studies, ranks 163 nations We aren't first. Denmark holds that distinction. As a matter of fact, we aren't even in the top 25! How about those apples? We're 27th, which puts us at the approximate level of Poland and Slovenia. The Society has determined that chronic poverty is the greatest threat to our social progress, since 33 million Americns--12 million of them children!--are poor. Contrary to popular perception, the majority of the poor in this country are members of established households who work full-time and are white. Read that again...just to make sure you've got it. NO OTHER economically advantaged nation tolerates such a level of poverty. Other factors impeding social progress include slow economic growth, increasing unemployment, insecure access to adequate healthcare and deteriorating schools in urban areas. Sounds like the whole GOP agenda, doesn't it? This puts the lie to any disingenuous rhetoric about an "Ownership Society," which really means to most of us that 'we're on our own.' Rightwad politicians hate prosperity and are bent upon turning America into one big banana republic. Doing a bloody good job of it, too

This depressing scenario is further bolstered by the United Nations' Human Development Index which reveals that, among wealthy nations, we have the highest infant mortality rate, (Higher than Cuba. CUBA!!) the highest teen birth rate, (THERE's your abstinence-only success story!), the highest child abuse rate, the highest child injury death rate and the greatest in-country gaps in mortality rates. Of the 25 wealthiest nations, only two have a lower average life expectancy than we do and we have the highest probability at birth of not reaching age 60. America's healthcare, if judged by any standards other than how much we spend on it and the rate of profitability of our leading drug manufacturers, is pretty pathetic. Other wealthy countries provide universal social protection (Hello, France!), offer a generally less punitive vision for social life and the result is that they live longer and are healthier. And--I'm just guessing here--happier.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke on it for a while...

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Your statement is 100% false. Some polling has shown that the majority of Americans support some form of universal health care, but when asked about a single payer government run system, the answer is a resounding no.

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