That doesn't strike me as strange.

Uh... okee-dokey. But how does this explain that you would not have heard of OBL without Bush "being there"?

As much as I generally revere wikipedia as a clearinghouse for accurate information, what, exactly, is your point? How does this demonstrate that you only know who OBL is because of Bush?

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Why thank you, my friend - I do my best

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

I think he's just playin with me.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

US soldiers weren't the only ones killed in Iraq.First of all, many Iraqis have died as a result of the invasion and occupation. I think it's in the tens of thousands. Bush didn't lose the money accidentally, he knew it would be lost/expended. Or are you telling me he thought the invasion would somehow be free of charge? I've seen Bush standing and talking at the same time so even he could not have been THAT stupid. Furthermore, his intentions were not benevolent. The way I see it, he saw the effects that 9/11 had on his support and figured the Iraq invasion would provide a similar temporary boost, and it did and he won. So I do think the bank robber scenario can be applied. The bank robber saw an action that would cost people their lives and money would make him rich, just like Bush saw that the Iraq war (lives and money) would get him re-elected.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

See that is the difference between you and me. Someone puts a gun to my head and thats the end of the story. And might I add the end of whoever is holding said gun.

Wow I'm suprised you can deal with putting your ego on the intertnet. It must cost a fortune in bandwidth fees.

Well, I'd probably be inclined to agree. I'm of the opinion that everything is motivated by economics. If you read some of bin Laden's actual rhetoric (and I have), it has serious economic undertones, while all the religious stuff is just frosting for the great unwashed to rot their teeth on.

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"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

Being unwilling to compromise with people bent on evil is not ego it is righteousness.

I didn't do the poll either. Even though I'm a liberal, the poll was clearly not designed to generate any legitimate discussion other than to troll for an attack on the left. I don't play those games.

While I don't necessarily disagree with you about the motivation of the poll there seem to be a distressing number of people (of varying political affiliations) who seriously show more disdain for our current President than they do our enemies.

How do you describe an "enemy?" Someone who is technically "against" the US or someone who does far more damage to the US?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Enemy - any entity that seeks to do harm to "me".
Me - used here to mean myself, my family, my friends, my country etc.

Then I guess:

Friend - any entity that does to harm to me, although indirectly.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Friend - any entity that desires "my" betterment. Typically shows support by contributing to "my" causes.

What do you call someone that does much more harm to you than your "enemy?"

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.