You only say that cause Libertarians have no power, and thus have not been corrupted. No doubt theyd follow the same pattern.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

Up until about 1886, corporate donations to politicians was against the law. That was a good idea.

America has morphed into a plutocracy where the richest 1% not only control 95% of the wealthy, they also control 95% of the political agenda and 99% of the people.

We stand by and watch the travesty like deer caught in the headlights at our own peril.

Libertarians would make the problem even worse. They believe in turning the entire country over to "the market" without any restrictions whatsoever.

Ron Paul doesn't believe in any limits on campaign contributions so corporation could freely buy any politician they choose.

There are so many variations of small "l" and large "L" libertarians I'm not sure they know who they are. But the one commonality is they believe that individuals are more important than their country.

pram jockey does.

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Dear God, man. Have you gone completely sideways? That'd be a horrible solution!

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i dunno i always thought everyone should be given equal airtime. granted there would be alot of canidates to debate.. maybe we can skim them down over time and have people vote with cell phones who to continue debating. just like american idol.!

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Hmm.

I think that the spirit behind what you're saying is good, and I'm not sure that we disagree.

Imagine a country where the people who are in government are there not becuase they crave power, but because they actually want to serve.

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Like I said, the problem is corrupt politicians, not the donations. It's like banning guns instead of jailing criminals.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

I disagree on both points.

Money MAKES politicians corrupt because you can't compete for office without it. Once they take it, they are beholden to those who gave it to them. What is required is a system that frees politicians of the need to beg the Godfather for money.

On the question of jailing criminals .. the US already encarcerates more of its population than any nation on earth. At what point does intelligence and reason step in to find another way?

There is no such thing a non-corrupt national or state level politician. Anyone who is willing to do what it takes to be elected to those offices has already "sold out".
Any government which provides for the defense of the country will already have enough money to attract the vultures. So there is no such thing a national government "too small to give subsidies".

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If you mean because it's impossible to advertise yourself without money, then I would say it is the fault of shallow American voters who vote based on advertisements that they saw and which guy has the better suit. Again, you are looking in the wrong place for the problem.So don't vote for those whom you think will have loyalties located specifically with big corporations. Again, a problem with the voters who elect those people.You mean a system where many American voters aren't completely retarded pieces of shit who vote based solely on party associations and "for the lesser evil?"At the point where you decide to take a broad, heavy-handed and unjust approach to try and quell a symptom of the bigger problem: stupid voters.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Then that is because voters are interested in electing said sellouts. I guess you'll just have to vote on candidates based on merit rather than party affiliations and "lesser evil" mentality.Maybe they won't stop right away, but corruptibility will be reduced due to the simple fact that there is less to corrupt. The rest of the subsidies will need to be done away with by electing good politicians, rather than sellouts.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

It is because the huge cost of getting elected precludes the candidacy of any but the corrupt. When all the candidates with the wherewithal to mount an effective campaign are bought and paid for, voters are left with little to choose between them. Over time voters come to believe they cannot affect the process and lose interest which exacerbates the problem.
Maybe they won't stop it ever since even the most pie in the sky scenario still leaves government with vast quantities of money.

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Edward Gibbon

Lawyers/Law Firms:
Long-Term Contribution Trends
Opensecrets.org--Money in politics data (Lots of donor info by industry - I highly recommend it.)

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