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Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

It seems ol Fred had another job a few years back lobbying for one of the good guys Jean Bertrand Aristide

Fred Thompson and the Burning 'Necklace'- by Justin Raimondo
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

/chuckle

ok.

Antiwar.com and Raimondo.

Gotcha.

Look, I sincerely HOPE That this lobbying gig is all the left cna come up with. If so, Fred isn't even going to have to lift a FINGER to win the presidency in 08.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

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/chuckle

ok.

Antiwar.com and Raimondo.

Gotcha.

Look, I sincerely HOPE That this lobbying gig is all the left cna come up with. If so, Fred isn't even going to have to lift a FINGER to win the presidency in 08.
Are you denying he lobbied for Aristide or do you just not care because of the source?
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

Like I said, I HOPE that the libs think this is going to hurt Fred Thompson. Newsflash. It isn't even going to be a bump in the road.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

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Like I said, I HOPE that the libs think this is going to hurt Fred Thompson. Newsflash. It isn't even going to be a bump in the road.
You may be right I just thought it might be somewhat telling of where the guy stands. He was apparently willing to represent anybody as long as the paycheck was right.
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Like I said, I HOPE that the libs think this is going to hurt Fred Thompson. Newsflash. It isn't even going to be a bump in the road.
Your right. Most regular voters do not pay attention to this sort of thing. I think the problem is that we have a huge disconnect between many on this site and the general public. Most on this site treat politics as Jeopardy in that we look for the smartest person when in reality it is American Idol and people care more about who they like rather than who is the smartest and has the best record. While working for corporate interest rather than public interest in Washington may bother may on this site who pay much more attention than the average citizen most people probably do not even know what a lobbyist is. Most people do not know a damn thing about Fred Thompson other than the fact he was on a prime time network television show which is probably a big benefit. I think that if he gets the nomination (which still isn't something that could happen since right now he has a lot of buzz and still isn't first in the polls) people will watch the debates and he will have to at least show that he has the knowledge of policy and smarts to show that he is also the most capable which I think people will at least be looking for more than usual after this administration.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

Corruption, bribes, wiretapping, lies, all this junk is boring and such accusations will not have a noticible affect on the electorate. We need bimbos and sex!
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Corruption, bribes, wiretapping, lies, all this junk is boring and such accusations will not have a noticible affect on the electorate. We need bimbos and sex!

ROFL

Unfortunately the past has proven this to be accurate.....this is somewhat true and is very sad.
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Like I said, I HOPE that the libs think this is going to hurt Fred Thompson. Newsflash. It isn't even going to be a bump in the road.
Fred Thompson isn't going to be much more than a bump in the road.

He is in first place in the GOP now because he doesn't suck as bad as all the other GOP candidates. But of course, he hasn't opened his mouth yet.

Once he does he'll have to take positions on issues, just about everyone agrees with the positions he's taken so far, (on Law and Order, he always seemed to oppose the bad guys). But whats his position on Iraq? On the Deficit? On Taxes? On Social Security? On National Health?
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

You mean FDT lobbied for the same Haitian leader Bill Clinton sent US military troops in to restore to power? Now there’s an issue the Dems can really exploit; especially with the other Clinton’s double digit lead for the Dem nomination.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

Fred Thompson is also just another Washington insider claiming to be an outsider. If elected he will become the first federally registered lobbyist to become President; and he's apparently surrounding himself with fellow lobbyists. Yea that's all we need fucking lobbyists running this country out in the open.

He's lobbied against the interests of the public, on several occasions.

Fred Thompson: The Philip Morris Candidate

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Thompson's lobbying career demonstrates his striking skill in capitalizing on his own government service and on the success of his friends in public office.

In 1981, when the Republicans took control of the Senate, Thompson's employer and mentor, Senator Howard Baker, became Majority Leader. With Baker's rise to power, Thompson's lobbying fees from Westinghouse and other clients shot up from a paltry $2,575 in 1980 to $100,438 in 1981 -- then a considerable sum.

That was peanuts compared to the fees Thompson got from just one lobbying client 23 years later, after another Tennessee friend, Bill Frist, was elected Senate Majority Leader.

Equitas, a British firm seeking to minimize the cost of damages to Lloyds of London under pending legislation governing asbestos liability (asbestos is a known cause of respiratory diseases and of mesothelioma, a lethal lung cancer) in 2004 hired Thompson as part of a massive, $7.88 million lobbying drive.

For two years' work, which consisted primarily in guaranteeing Equitas access to Senator Frist, Thompson was paid $760,000.

As for Thompson's personal ties to Philip Morris, they are evident not so much in the tobacco company's contributions to him -- just $13,000 to his two Senate campaigns -- but in how loaded his still unannounced presidential campaign is with people strongly tied to the tobacco company and its parent company, Altria.

Take Tom Collamore, who is expected to become Thompson's campaign manager. In 1992, Collamore went to work for Philip Morris and later became vice president of public affairs at Altria.

Howard Baker, who has been a top adviser to Thompson, represented Philip Morris as a lobbyist at Baker Donelson Bearman Berman Caldwell & Berkowitz in 1998 and 1999. Baker was paid $1.92 million for his work. In addition Baker represented four other tobacco companies during that period and received another $1.71 million from them.

In the 1990s, Philip Morris financed the creation of a pro-smoking citizens' group called the National Smokers Alliance to fight anti-tobacco initiatives. Much of the actual organization of the Smokers' Alliance was performed by a Washington public relations firm, Burson-Marsteller. One of the key players at Burson-Marsteller involved in the Smokers' Alliance was Ken Rietz, who recently retired as CEO.

Rietz is now coordinating much of the early media strategy for the Thompson campaign.

Finally, the campaign is expected to hire the polling firm McLaughlin & Associates. The polling company lists both Philip Morris and the National Smokers' Alliance among its clients.
It's been told how Fred Thompson dislikes Washington Politics, that's a fucking laugh, because Fred Thompson is Washington Politics.

So now we can dispense with the myth that Fred Thompson is a Washington "outsider," and start focusing on what his policies will be.

Frankly I don't see him being much better than Dick Cheney.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

While we're at it, here's some historical context on Fred Thompson, and where he's stood on the issues:

Fred Thompson on the issues

Based on his past political record, I'd say he's just another status-quo Republican, no different from the current crop of pro-corporation cronies ruining this country.

I'll pass on Fred Thompson.
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

I love this thread....the dude isnt even a candidate and the liberal spin machine is all ready trying to kill him

doesnt surprise me though their best bet is hillary clinton someone with major neagative polling numbers
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Re: Fred Thompson "What you may not know"

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Fred Thompson is also just another Washington insider claiming to be an outsider. If elected he will become the first federally registered lobbyist to become President; and he's apparently surrounding himself with fellow lobbyists. Yea that's all we need fucking lobbyists running this country out in the open.

He's lobbied against the interests of the public, on several occasions.

Fred Thompson: The Philip Morris Candidate



It's been told how Fred Thompson dislikes Washington Politics, that's a fucking laugh, because Fred Thompson is Washington Politics.

So now we can dispense with the myth that Fred Thompson is a Washington "outsider," and start focusing on what his policies will be.

Frankly I don't see him being much better than Dick Cheney.
Dubya paraded himself around as a Washington outsider seven years ago. It's really the smartest tack a Republican can take because the stereotypical Republican is a rich, old, stuffy white male. And since there's not much any of the Republican candidates can do about being rich, old, white, or male, they all opt to promote themselves as being less stuffy than they actually are. That's why they all seem to show up at farm shows during campaign time wearing brand new jeans and casual dress shirts with the collar unbuttoned and the sleeves rolled up. I'm not sure how this makes them seem less stuffy, though, since they are among the most well-dressed people at events like this. If they really want to dress like the crowd they're trying to woo, they'd wear a NASCAR t-shirt once in a while.

The reason Thompson is likely to get away with his claim of being a Washington outsider is because he left Washington in January 2003, a few months before we invaded Iraq. It doesn't really matter that he voted in favor of using force to invade Iraq. He's been gone long enough that as far as the voters are concerned he's clear of the whole mess. It's actually quite a smart move. When gearing up for a Presidential run, leaving Washington for at least a few years will absolve a candidate of that sticky insider label that is hard to shake. This is a particular problem for Senators, and it's why no sitting Senator with more than eight years of continuous service at the time of the election has ever won the Presidency.
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I love this thread....the dude isnt even a candidate and the liberal spin machine is all ready trying to kill him

doesnt surprise me though their best bet is hillary clinton someone with major neagative polling numbers

Now why would they form a commitee and have a website dedicated to gathering funds JUST to acquire information on Thompson if he was such a nobody and a Scooter Libby _______________ and a lobbying ____________ and a do-nothing senator?

/chuckle

Like I said earlier. If you take Billary's time in the Senate, Obama Yo Mama's time in the Senate, and Fred's time in the senate...you will find that Fred did more than either.

So THAT is just moot....the lobbying crap will go NOWHERE, his "Trophy wife" is 41 years old, so that is shot to hell for the libs...all the women in his past have been hammered by the left-wing media and they had NOTHING but good to say about him...no scandals anywhere.

The left has no platform against him. So, now they must just begin to claim he is a homosexual racist masochist torturer who does it all for greed and power.

/chuckle

the usual....
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