That's right...oh the poor libs who can they support now

Obama might send troops into Pakistan - Yahoo! News

Fortunately democrats know no one takes what they say seriously so they can pretty much say anything and not be called out by the media.

Varus

Going in to the mountains of Pakistan sounds like a great idea. In fact, it seems like an infinitely better idea than invading Iraq, which was a giganitc mistake.

The point of the thread though was that Obama saying he's okay with war.

But that is a position he's maintained all along, just not this war.

But i'm sure if Bush attacked Pakistan he'd criticise that too.

Oh but what will become of the innocent civilians that are likely to get caught in the cross hairs of those murdering rapist US soldiers.

Varus

No, the point of this thread was to scoff at liberals…

But in fact the laugh is on varrussword, because it shows that he simply does not grasped that what Obama is saying here is exactly what many liberals have been saying emphatically when criticising the invasion of Iraq.

Tethys

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Too bad Bush didn't think of that 4 years ago.

Oh right, Bush doesn't think.

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If Bush did it I would be more afraid of a botched execution of the thing. Not just because of Iraq but the fact that he neglected Afghanistan which should have been a done deal by now if we had the troop levels in that country we have in Iraq or really even less. If he did take troops our of Iraq and deploy them in Pakistan I would be much more pleased with that rather than our current situation.

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You're right I does not grasp it.

Varus

Horsesh*t you'd be screaming the same thing only where you talk about Iraq now it'd have been the same talk about Pakistan. It's easy for liberals to say what they would have done, or what they would do. When put in positions of power they in fact do what Clinton and Carter have done; completely ignore the reality of the issue.

Varus

How do you know, Varus? By your own admission, you only address what you think the left might say, not what they actually do.

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I base my opinions on what Clinton and Carter lacked the courage to do.

Varus

But we don't need that many troops in Afghanistan because NATO troops make up the numbers there, we don't have that in Iraq (even though we do have the coallition) so we have to subsidise in Iraq with our own troops making up the troops. Plus Iraq is slightly bigger is it not? I might be mistaken on that but i think Iraq is bigger.

Rather than use this as a springboard to tell us, for the 3000th time, what you think of liberals, why don't you tell us what this makes you think of Obama? Does his willingness to use force as he deems appropriate sway your opinion of him, or is the fact that he's a Dem a deal-breaker on its face?

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But on several occassions Dems have grumbled that we invaded a "sovereign" nation, isn't Obama claiming he'd do the same here?

Well I guess you could throw in some profanity and make assumptions about me as an individual and then generalize me into a group rather than have a discussion like adults. I'm not going to dig back into the archive but I have never been critical of Afghanistan other than I think it is something I think we should have put even more into and focused on. Pakistan is only a extension of that since they do not have a well managed border. But that's discussing the issue rather than partisan attacks so I guess it doesn't concern you. Should I guess put in in language you understand and say your are full of horse shit as are all conservatives? Would you understand that better?

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Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
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