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Old 08-08-2007
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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Anyone who has posted on this forum is screwed for being elected as the media will find what you posted and repeat it.
How would they know who we are? My neighbor might have an unsecured wireless connection which I might be using, so how would anyone know? Perhaps my neighbor could use mine if I had an unsecured wireless connection. Then there is the issue of multiple computers using a secured wireless connection. Perhaps someone else using my computer. So even if you could trace these posts to a specific computer, you still wouldn't know who posted it with total certainty.
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

If you ran for President people would know.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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If you want to politically posture your macho-ism up here, you attack our American alliances.
I guess we must be better at being "macho" and "gung ho" only you guys have elected a Pro U.S. leader who wants to strengthen ties with Washington!
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

I ran for local office..........what a letdown.

I won.
No Fun.
8 more months and I'm done !
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If you ran for President people would know.
How is "people would know" an adequate response to "how would they know?"
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.
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Old 08-09-2007
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I guess we must be better at being "macho" and "gung ho" only you guys have elected a Pro U.S. leader who wants to strengthen ties with Washington!
The election of conservatives in Canada was more of a punishment of the Liberal party for being such shisters than evidence of an ideological shift. Indeed, witness the Conservative's having to unite with the relatively liberal (correct me if I'm wrong, Canadian residents!) Bloc Quebecois and not trying to enact many of their campaign platforms in order to remain in power.
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According to the UN we have more registered firearms in the US that belong to citizens than all of Europe combined...
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Perhaps, but not per capita relative to some European countries, such as Sweden and Switzerland.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

Oh give me a break, people! Your past doesn't mean anything. If the past counted, John Kerry would've won and stupid Uncle Sam would've realised that it's the other dumbass whose weak and cowardly. Americans have their heads so far up their ass these days that they fail to see that they actually like to vote for dumbasses instead of readers and thinkers. Bush was a drunk and a cokehead who failed at everything except getting elected as Governor and as President with no accomplishments to speak of other than the fact that Americans like dumbasses who remind them of their own ordinary selves. You guys used to marry up, but now you feel more comfortable electing losers. It was just your luck that Clinton happened to be a hillbilly on the outside but a reader in private. America didn't vote for him because he was smart, they liked him because he reminded them of them.

So I say, if you would want to run for office, make sure you advertise your failings, it'll get you free press and it'll make your dumbass electorate feel closer to you.

How bad have things gotten that that is all true?
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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Oh give me a break, people! Your past doesn't mean anything. If the past counted, John Kerry would've won and stupid Uncle Sam would've realised that it's the other dumbass whose weak and cowardly. Americans have their heads so far up their ass these days that they fail to see that they actually like to vote for dumbasses instead of readers and thinkers. Bush was a drunk and a cokehead who failed at everything except getting elected as Governor and as President with no accomplishments to speak of other than the fact that Americans like dumbasses who remind them of their own ordinary selves. You guys used to marry up, but now you feel more comfortable electing losers. It was just your luck that Clinton happened to be a hillbilly on the outside but a reader in private. America didn't vote for him because he was smart, they liked him because he reminded them of them.

So I say, if you would want to run for office, make sure you advertise your failings, it'll get you free press and it'll make your dumbass electorate feel closer to you.

How bad have things gotten that that is all true?
If Americans wanted the smartass opinion of a fucking Canadian, we would've asked.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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The election of conservatives in Canada was more of a punishment of the Liberal party for being such shisters than evidence of an ideological shift. Indeed, witness the Conservative's having to unite with the relatively liberal (correct me if I'm wrong, Canadian residents!) Bloc Quebecois and not trying to enact many of their campaign platforms in order to remain in power.
Correct. It is always a pleasure to see Americans showing a healthy understanding of Canadian politics.

The Bloc Quebecois, along with the Parti Quebecois are both very much liberal parties, bordering on European social democrat philosophies.

This pretty much prevents the minority Conservative party from advancing any actual conservative policies at this time.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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Oh give me a break, people! Your past doesn't mean anything. If the past counted, John Kerry would've won and stupid Uncle Sam would've realised that it's the other dumbass whose weak and cowardly. Americans have their heads so far up their ass these days that they fail to see that they actually like to vote for dumbasses instead of readers and thinkers. Bush was a drunk and a cokehead who failed at everything except getting elected as Governor and as President with no accomplishments to speak of other than the fact that Americans like dumbasses who remind them of their own ordinary selves. You guys used to marry up, but now you feel more comfortable electing losers. It was just your luck that Clinton happened to be a hillbilly on the outside but a reader in private. America didn't vote for him because he was smart, they liked him because he reminded them of them.

So I say, if you would want to run for office, make sure you advertise your failings, it'll get you free press and it'll make your dumbass electorate feel closer to you.

How bad have things gotten that that is all true?
Wow. You really don't know much about Americans if you think your rant can do anything but encourage hate. That's very un-Canadian of you.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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Wow. You really don't know much about Americans if you think your rant can do anything but encourage hate. That's very un-Canadian of you.
I would never judge all Canadians based on Jason's rant, especially since there's a couple of Canadians on the board that I'm genuinely fond of!
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

But this is a huge thing that Canadians do, Jason isn't the only one.

They grumble about us (allegedly) telling other nations how to behave and they sit around lecturing us!

When i saw this that post i just thought "fuck it" I'm done with this thread now even though there were a couple of points i wanted to make and a post i wanted to reply to.
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Re: Would/Could You Run?

Honestly, one part of my growing up process is that all countries run SOME line of bullshit somewhere.

Our line is that we are acting in the interests of other wth our foreign policy, which I do not believe is true.

I personally believe that Canada's line is that they are consistently better than us by virtue of not being the United States.

The past has proved that Canadians were far more horrid to the west-coast Japanese population during World War 2, for instance. They also forced their own male citizens to work during the Depression, as well. Hanging was the only form of execution until they eliminated the death penalty.

I have a great deal of respect for Canada, I am fascinated with Canada, and I have even looked at moving there for graduate study (at the very least). But I do not buy this idea that they are so much kinder, gentler, or smarter than we are. History shows otherwise.

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Re: Would/Could You Run?

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But this is a huge thing that Canadians do, Jason isn't the only one.

They grumble about us (allegedly) telling other nations how to behave and they sit around lecturing us!

When i saw this that post i just thought "fuck it" I'm done with this thread now even though there were a couple of points i wanted to make and a post i wanted to reply to.
Your generalities are little better than Jason's.

90% of all Canadians encountered on a US political discussion board are going to be anti-American. That is a fact.

That does not mean that 90% of Canadians are anti-American. The vast majority of Canadians don't care about the USA enough to bother coming to a US political discussion forum to rant about it.

However, amongst that small number of Canadians who are really into hating America, they are quite likely to find their way to this forum (or other similar ones).

That being said, on Canadian political discussion forums, you will always find a long multi-page thread about "pro-American vs anti-American" and it will be as popular as abortion discussion threads are on US discussion forums - indeed, the arguments are vaguely similar - and often fanatically held to the point of irrationality.
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