This is stupid, Hillary was a republican in her early life.

And Reagan was a Democrat earlier in his... you can't tell me he was a "centrist".

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I just saw the title of the thread. Hilary on the far-left? If Hilary is on the far-left then that must make Bush a moderate.

I'm not entirely sure where Hillary is, but I'm positive she's not in any way "moderate". Moderately leftist, perhaps.

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Back in 1993 she wanted the government to take over 1/5 of the US economy. She now is proposing Hillarycare light which we all know is how the left moves their agenda forward, incrementalism. Just looking at the anti-smoking laws and "family leave". IMHO this is just the tip of the Hillarycare iceberg.

You people are so used to the media portraying leftist agenda as mainstream, you can't recognize it any longer for what it is.

Moveon is a far left organization and they claim to have bought and paid for the Democratic party. If Hillary is your nominee, she is owned by them and her silence here is proof of that. Call it fear, call it in need of their money, it doesn't matter. At the very least she has shown that she is afraid to take on what she must know is wrong. If she's afraid to take on Moveon how are we to expect her to take on our enemies abroad? And if it is not her fear but her agreement, then the thread holds true.

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Doctor, I am on the far left and am rather anti-government.

The left-right spectrum (limited as it is) does not necessarily reflect how authoritarian a person is.

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Hillary isn't far left, she never was, this is just the talking points for the GOP, left over from past elections. I don't think the GOP is even going to make a serious challenge for the presidency in 2008, just nominate some sacrificial lamb to take one for the team. Just look at the clowns they have running.
My 83 year old father saw Fred Thompson in Florida, and said he couldn't vote for a guy that old and tired looking.

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Well, Hillary had her chance to vote for a resolution in the Senate condemning the slanderous Moveon.org ad this afternoon and she voted against condemnation.

U.S. Senate Roll Call

Satisfying Moveon.org is apparently more important to her and 27 other Democrats than defending a decorated general who has made a career out of putting his life on the line for our country and is the commander of our troops in a war zone. That pretty much tells you where that party is headed.

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THIS IS REAL HOPE AND CHANGE!

What's the difference between Hilary satisfying moveon.org and the GOP satisfying the religious right? You just don't like it because she's on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Now you might be able to understand about how people on the left regard some aspects of some agencies on the right.

There is nothing patriotic about automatically defending any generel under any circumstances. Knee-jerk demonstrations of loyalty like you are demanding are ridiculous and pointless in a democracy. Such things are reserved for fascist dictatorial states.

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Hillary isn't that far to the left. Look at her healthcare proposal or her ideas about Iraq and it's right up the middle or centre-left. Other candidates for the Dems are much further to the left than she is. I think it's fair to say that Hillary has been fairly up the middle in all her time in the Senate. Many Republicans apparently like her in Washington and find her to be somebody that can be worked with. She'll get demonized all the way to the finish line, but she's not anywhere near the radical some suggest her to be.

So where were all these patriots defending war-hero McCain when Bush slandered him in the 2000 Republican primary?

So where were all these patriots defending war-hero Max Cleland when the Republicans slandered him in the 2000 election?

So where were all these patriots defending war-hero Kerry when Bush slandered him in the 2004 election?

Attacking decorated war-heros looks like Republican policy. Seems rather hypocritical for them to all of a sudden start objecting to their own slander the war-heros policy.

Btw, retired General Wesley Clark just officially endorsed Hillary yesterday.

It is my considered opinion that Wesley Clark is the one high-ranking American military figure who has proven that he actually understands what is going on in Iraq right now. This makes him quite unique.

He is also the one of the only people on the globe with actual experience of successfully dealing with an 'Iraq-like' situation in Bosnia.

Clark is well positioned to be on Hillary's short list for VP (if she gets the nomination) and/or a potential Secretary of Defense in a Hillary cabinet if she wins the general election.

No! She is Center to Center Left you are Far Right. So she is a fair bit left of you.

Would you critcize Timothy McVeigh or Benedict Arnold, after all, they are decorated, war-heroes too?

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