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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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So appearance is more important to you than policy? Do you vote (based on) for the candidate with the most expensive advertising campaign?
How you get the impression (evidenced by the fact that you aksed the question) that I think appearance is more important than policy?

I was asked how I thought he would be perceived on the world stage.

I answered that question.

So, stop trolling by asking questions for which the answers have already been clearly provided...
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

he has wishy washy ideas concerning the FBI ,CIA, and other important and necessary agencies .

his is too much of a whimp , he would allow other countries to run over us .

he has a few good ideas , but a lot of whacky andd very bad ideas .
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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I see people calling RP a nut much of the time, but why do they think that? Why do so-called "conservatives" shrink from the idea of electing a small-government republican?
Because they have no idea what conservatism stands for. If Goldwater or Reagan were alive and running today, the same people would be calling Barry and Uncle Ronnie "kooks" and "nutjobs".
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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How you get the impression (evidenced by the fact that you aksed the question) that I think appearance is more important than policy?

I was asked how I thought he would be perceived on the world stage.

I answered that question.

So, stop trolling by asking questions for which the answers have already been clearly provided...
Uh, that's not the definition of trolling.

So are you going to vote for Ron Paul? If not, why not?
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Old 11-22-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Apparently Steve is a proud big gov't Republican who also believes in nation building. So indicative of the Bush brainwashing of the last 7 years that so many Republicans can't even see that their party now behaves like neo-liberal fascists, trying to micro-manage the world and our private lives.
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So are you going to vote for Ron Paul? If not, why not?
If I were voting today, no.

As far as I'm concerned, Ron Paul has offered no compelling reason to vote for him, and has offered a few reasons not to.

He says he wants to do away with organizations like the FBI and the CIA. Well, that's fine I suppose, but he needs to let us know what the alternative is. The jobs those entities perfom still need to be done, but Paul hasn't addressed that. Until he does, I've no reason to vote for him...
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Apparently Steve is a proud big gov't Republican who also believes in nation building. So indicative of the Bush brainwashing of the last 7 years that so many Republicans can't even see that their party now behaves like neo-liberal fascists, trying to micro-manage the world and our private lives.
Fuckin' amazing.

Please tell us all what my "party" is.

You're foolish enough to believe that, if someone isn't completely critical of Bush, and completely supportive of Ron Paul, that person must be a "neocon" Republican.

I've got news for you, Einstein, I'm neither Republican or "neocon"...
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If I were voting today, no.

As far as I'm concerned, Ron Paul has offered no compelling reason to vote for him, and has offered a few reasons not to.
So you don't like small government, and instead prefer huge government?
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He says he wants to do away with organizations like the FBI and the CIA. Well, that's fine I suppose, but he needs to let us know what the alternative is.
Have you provided a compelling reason as to why those organizations need to exist?
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The jobs those entities perfom still need to be done, but Paul hasn't addressed that. Until he does, I've no reason to vote for him...
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Fuckin' amazing.

Please tell us all what my "party" is.

You're foolish enough to believe that, if someone isn't completely critical of Bush, and completely supportive of Ron Paul, that person must be a "neocon" Republican.

I've got news for you, Einstein, I'm neither Republican or "neocon"...
He might also be a liberal democrat, as those appear to differ with Ron Paul.
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So you don't like small government, and instead prefer huge government?Have you provided a compelling reason as to why those organizations need to exist?
I don't have to.

Ron Paul is the one who wants to do away with them. He needs to provide both his plan for disbanding them, and for how he intends to continue performing the duties they perform...
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He might also be a liberal democrat, as those appear to differ with Ron Paul.
As usual, you couldn't be more wrong...
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

What do you stand for?

Ron Paul wants to do away with the Department of Education. That's a good way to save money. He's not saying Washington should completely pull all education funding, he's just saying that individual states ought to set out curriculums and budgets, not Washington.

I like him the best because he's the most honest candidate. If he can bring the troops home, cut spending, secure the border, take care of the veterans, and do away with the patriot act and the dept. of Homeland Insecurity, he will have done a great service to all Americans.
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Ron Paul's campaign just broke the $9 million mark today. His campaign wants to raise $12 million for this current quarter which ends on Dec. 31.

December 16 is the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party and Paul already has pledges from donors that amount to $2 million for that day. It's crazy. His campaign will definitely shoot over their goals on that day and possibly challenge their own one-day fundraising record.

I think the next debate will help Ron Paul the most because it's in Nevada and he's on the right side of the immigration and the war issues. And a lot of people will watch so that they can actually be introduced to him now. Goodbye Tancredo and Hunter and goodbye Thompson, It is now between Giuliani, McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Ron Paul.
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I see people calling RP a nut much of the time, but why do they think that? Why do so-called "conservatives" shrink from the idea of electing a small-government republican?
1. He is an isolantionist
2. He has an impractical and unrealistic view of how to shrink govt
3. He does not support the Fair Tax
4. He thinks the US is at fault for Islamic terrorists dislike of us
5. He is an an impolite debater
6. AND THE MOST IMPORANT - Canadians like him
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I don't have to.

Ron Paul is the one who wants to do away with them. He needs to provide both his plan for disbanding them, and for how he intends to continue performing the duties they perform...
Again, your statement implies that they had important functions to begin with.
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