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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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1. He is an isolantionist
So you like blowing money on Iraq like we are now?
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2. He has an impractical and unrealistic view of how to shrink govt
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3. He does not support the Fair Tax
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4. He thinks the US is at fault for Islamic terrorists dislike of us
5. He is an an impolite debater
6. AND THE MOST IMPORANT - Canadians like him
Your last three reasons are retarded. If anything, those would improve the way he manages policies.
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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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I see people calling RP a nut much of the time, but why do they think that? Why do so-called "conservatives" shrink from the idea of electing a small-government republican?
You get to choose from one of the Bilderberg or Neocon candidates - any one else should be considered a nutcase and not intended to be one of the choices.
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

like the neocon media had to sabotage Howard Deans campaign in 04 cause he wasnt a member of the skulls
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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Ron Paul has the best foreign policy approach of anybody in Congress: Get out of other country's affairs.

My problem with him is his fundamental domestic policy. He's in favor of a completely unchecked free market with the government's power at the state level, and I believe that an unregulated free market doesn't work and that government power should be mainly at the federal level.
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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Again, your statement implies that they had important functions to begin with.
They do.

Federal law enforcement and intelligence gathering are tasks which will still need to be performed.

Ron Paul has not said how those tasks would be done after he disbands those orgnizations...
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

yea Ron Pauls domestic policys are a little extreme but hes spot on with foreign policy--No Foreign entanglements
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yea Ron Pauls domestic policys are a little extreme but hes spot on with foreign policy--No Foreign entanglements
Sorry, but I'm a bit more concerned with what he'll do here...
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Simply put I disagree with Ron Paul that the best way to fight islamic terrorism is to close up our country and rely on repelling attacks. I think we need to kill our enemies before they get here, and encourage the spread of peaceful conditions around the world. I disagree that removing the USA from the rest of the world will stop the spread of Islamic Fascism. They will simply find a new target, one of our allies, and then we're right back in it.
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

the best way to prevent terrorism is thru democracy and social justice--war is the best way to create terrorism and intelligence actions and covert ops is the best way to stop active terroist activity
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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I see people calling RP a nut much of the time, but why do they think that? Why do so-called "conservatives" shrink from the idea of electing a small-government republican?
I like Ron Paul. He is one who understands that things like federal social programs are unconstitutional and would gut them if elected.
Most of the other Reps are Council of Foreign Relations members who I don't trust because of things like the NAU. In fact, I think most of the dems are also CFR members. Maybe this is why there isn't much difference between reps and dems these days?

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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

actually thats a misreading of the constitution on Pauls part but I still like him overall mostly for his foriegn policy
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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They do.

Federal law enforcement and intelligence gathering are tasks which will still need to be performed.
Also, where did Ron Paul say he would remove those organizations, again? I don't remember if you posted the link or not.
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Ron Paul cant unilaterally disband any domestic program without congresses consent anyway but it would be nice to see foreign aid slashed to the bone
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

Just a couple of problems I have with Ron Paul are these votes he's made and positions he's taken:

Voted NO on deterring foreign arms transfers to China (Jul 2005)

Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)

Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)

Opposes the death penalty. (Jan 2007)

Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)

Voted NO on requiring states to test students. (May 2001)

Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)

Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)

Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)

Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)

Close departments of Energy, Education & Homeland Security. (May 2007)

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers. (Oct 2005)

Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)

Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)

DHS is unmanageable bureaucracy--eliminate it. (May 2007)

Voted NO on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)

End draft registration; all-volunteer forces . (Dec 2000)

Immediately work to phase out the IRS. (May 2007)

Trusts the Internet a lot more than the mainstream media. (May 2007)

There are more, of course, but that's a fair start.

Here's the source: Ron Paul On The Issues
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Ron Paul cant unilaterally disband any domestic program without congresses consent anyway but it would be nice to see foreign aid slashed to the bone
The very fact that he speaks of it is worrisome to intelligent people...
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