This is what's wrong with him. It's his name.

Who would want a President who had two first names?
Get with it Ron! Either you're Ron somebody else or we're not voting for ya.

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I just want anything that isnt neocon

That's the problem. Neoconservatism has taken over conservatism, and has marginalized paleoconservatism. Now almost everyone is a neocon.

Why is it our business to stop foreign arms from going to China?Why is it the government's job to research embryonic stem cell lines? I like the topic, it is interesting and looks useful, but why should it be the government's job? If you like it, invest your own money.Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research.
To provide for human embryonic stem cell research. A YES vote would:

* Call for stem cells to be taken from human embryos that were donated from in vitro fertilization clinics
* Require that before the embryos are donated, that it be established that they were created for fertility treatment and in excess of clinical need and otherwise would be discarded
* Stipulate that those donating the embryos give written consent and do not receive any compensation for the donation.

Did you read the bill's description?

So? Why is it your business where they perform abortions?Okay, you have a point there.Given the way it is carried out, it wastes a shitload of money. Amend the death penalty first.So? Do you want to subject people to tests that tell whether they drank coffee in the morning, too?No Child Left Behind Act of 2001: Vote to pass a bill that would authorize $22.8 billion in education funding, a 29 percent increase from fiscal 2001. The bill would require states to test students to track progress.

Looks like an issue with big government, as Paul likes a small one.Uh, yeah. Let people pay for their own education.Uh...what's wrong with it? Is it your opinion that people should be banned from saying prayer or forced to pray?You want child porn DRAWINGS to be illegal?I don't know what Ron Paul meant by that. IMO I don't really see a reason to fund them at all, but I can see what he means by "don't manipulate foreigners with money."Yeah. Why do we need them? Energy needs to be privatized, education needs to be privatized, and DHS is a waste of money, anyway.Even though I can imagine most of such lawsuits would be bullshit, the solution is not to ban them, but to look at them rationally at the individual level. Believe it or not, if they lie about the ingredients and that results in someone becoming obese, that would sound like a rational reason to sue.A yes vote would: "Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition"

I can see where RP was torn, given that the bill would make illegal something that should remain legal.While it makes sense at first, the question remains: why should SUING for something be made illegal? Shouldn't the courts decide?Why do we need them, again?This is simply big-government bullshit, anyway. If someone is a terrorist, and has been convicted, wouldn't he be in jail anyway? What is the point of making it illegal for people behind bars indefinitely from getting licenses? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO DRIVE? LOL! Clearly, they are wording it "against terrorists" to try and excuse that authoritarian bill.We have enough to babysit and oppress Iraqis. It's clear that we don't need anymore.Yeah. Why do we need them?Mainstream media is driven by money. Period. Do you think bribed and money-hungry people are going to be more focused on honesty than would sources not greedy or money-driven?You mentioned the FBI and CIA would get phased out. Where did RP say that? I couldn't find it.

Judging from your statements, it appears that most of your gripes about Ron Paul stem from your belief that we need a bigger, much more liberal government. It looks as though you support an authoritarian, almost all-powerful government that acts somewhat like a mother or father. I know you probably won't change your opinion. So, perhaps you should consider picking a democrat for which to vote? They, too, support authoritarianism.

I mean, if you're going to be liberal, stop lying to yourself and go democrat.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

I won't respond to all of your comments because, frankly, you bore me.

But...

Ron Pul's not interested in amending the death penalty, he wants to do away with it. I agree that it could use an overhaul, but not if the goal of that overhaul is to make it easier to abolish it altogether...

Hardly the same thing. Drugs are illegal, coffee is not. Surely there's nothing about that which confuses you...

Saying a prayer is fine, but setting time aside during the school day should not be done in a public school. As for forcing someone to pray, that also should not be done...

Amber alerts help find missing children. If passing that means that porn drawings are illegal, then I'm cool with it. Ron Paul, apparently, is unconcerned with finding missing children...

Where did anyone say anything about convicted terrorists?

Sorry, but someone who believes what they read on the internet, because it's not on television, is a fucking idiot...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I think what is wrong with Ron Paul, is that, like former presidents he does not understand that: being in office, does not mean he will be in POWER!

Like I said, the death penalty needs to be amended before it can be supported. Right now, supporting it would be supporting a broken concept.Then it would follow that their homes should be searched for illegal file-sharing (movies, music, software) software, they should be followed to ensure they don't jaywalk or speed, etc... given that all of those are illegal, too.I read through the amendment and I don't see where it said that. All I see is is a proposition to neither force nor ban praying.No, Paul is apparently concerned with loaded bills that idiots in government use to pass bullshit resolutions by including them with other items. You don't need to ban child porn drawings to make it easier to find missing children. It's a loaded bill, Paul apparently saw it, and thus, didn't fall for the bullshit. Leave it to the weak-minded to say "well, this obviously means he doesn't want to find missing children," while ignoring the fact that it was a loaded bill.If one hasn't been convicted (and hasn't confessed), how do you know he is a terrorist?Paul didn't say that and you know it. The question mentioned MAINSTREAM media and Internet, not mainstream media and mainstream Internet. Given that MAINSTREAM media is pretty much driven by money, it would follow that the Internet, which has aspects driven by money and aspects not driven by it, given only those characteristics (as is the question), would be less biased.

Also, when are you going to show us where Paul said the things you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Ron Paul has expressed no desire to even fix it. He wants to do away with it...

I figured you'd burp up some retarded bullshit like this. You're just dpweing idiotic nonsense...

Perhaps not.

I don't have a problem with "porn drawings" being made illegal. Only some social outcast loser who can't get a date would want them, anyway...

I'm pretty sure Bin Laden's a terrorist. I'm pretty sure the entire thinking world is sure he's a terrorist...

I referenced no question. I quoted a source in which it said he trusts the internet more than the mainstream media...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Where has he voted to do away with it? The amendment was for a broken death penalty system. Where has he voted against fixing it in favor of doing away with it instead?I'm simply using the argument you provided. You are right, your argument is retarded bullshit.So you feel social outcast losers who can't get dates should be trampled upon by the government?I did mention admissions, did I not?Right, and what is wrong with that?

Don't dodge, Steve: When are you going to show us where Paul said the things you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

He opposes the death penalty. I don't know that he's ever voted against it or not; that's of no consequence...

Again, he opposes the death penalty. So does my cousin, and I wouldn't vote for him, either.

I've not heard Ron Paul say he wants to "fix" the death penalty. Have you?

I don't believe that Bin Laden has ever admitted to being a terrorist. Do you deny that he is?

How do I know Ron Paul isn't going to stumble upon some of your rambling bullshit and take it as gospel?

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

STOP DODGING: When are you going to show us where Paul said the things you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA?


How do you know he opposes it? All you've shown me is a vote against a BROKEN death penalty.All I saw was a vote against a BROKEN death penalty, not an opposition to the death penalty in general.No, but then I don't listen to the news very often.Has he admitted to participating in the attack against the WTC?Where did Ron Paul say he takes everything he sees on the Internet as gospel?

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At the end of this video, Ron Paul says that his supporters have made him a more crdible candidate.

How he doesn't see that as a problem is amazing. It should be his job to make himself a more credible candidate:

Ron Paul: Face The Nation

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I already told you that. It was listed on the site that I referenced. Now, I suppose there's always a chance that it could be incorrect, but I doubt it...

Please show me where I showed you a "vote", at all, about his stance on the death penalty...

So you admit to not being able to counter my position that he's against the death poenalty. Thank you for admitting that you failed, miserably, to win that portion of the debate...



is that the thing he'd have to do to convince you that he's a terrorist?

He hasn't, as far as I know.

Then again, according to the site I referenced, he trusts the internet more than mainstream media. Therefore, I have to, at least, allow for the possibility that he could stumble across some of your silly bullshit and believe it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

The bill you posted was one for a BROKEN death penalty. The only thing you've proven, if anything, is that RP does not support a BROKEN death penalty system.Ron Paul on CrimeThere's nothing to counter, given that you haven't substantiated your position in the first place.Uh, you lost by default when you failed to support your claim.That would be one thing that would likely sway my opinion towards guilt of terrorism.So why are you worried about him, in particular, taking my opinions as gospel?Well, Steve, plenty of things are possible. I don't see why every possibility should be listed out, though. Seriously, what was your point in saying that? </