So you want to wrongly execute people and/or waste a ton of taxpayer money on it?What if he was only referring to the federal system? Again, why not leave it to the states?

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Please stop making shit up. I've not come close to sugegsting that...

That's a moot point.

If the system is broken, it's broken, and it should be fixed. Whether a state or the Feds carry it out is of no consequence...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Well what else do you expect? Are you unaware of the costs?Okay, but if Paul were referring to the federal system alone, then it is clear that he only opposes the idea that the feds should carry it out rather than the states alone.

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I am also aware of the benefits...

Fine; I can accept that.

I would be interested in hearing his opinion of States carrying it out...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Like I said, is it your wish to have a system that wrongly kills people and/or wastes tons of money, even if it occasionally kills someone who is guilty?And I would be interested in seeing you post a link to the article where RP says what you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

The way you phrase that suggests that the majority of those put to death are put to death wrongfully; that's what "occasionally kills someone who is guilty" says to me.

I dismiss that very suggestion...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

This started out as a multi-issue discussion, featuring about a dozen, if not more, issues. Slowly, you have cut that number down to two or three by way of dodging. Now that we are down to one issue, you dodge it, too.

Like I said, you apparently cannot handle anything more complicated than a semantics argument.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

I'm hardly dodging the issue.

It's a sad commentary that you're unable to pare down all of those issues to a discussion of them individually, seeing how important they each are.

I would think that someone like you would welcome a dissection of the issues, instead of glossing over them with insignificant comment.

I'm not afraid to do it. Why are you?

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Even more sad is that you would lie like that.

I addressed all the issues here:

What is wrong with Ron Paul?

You dodged some here:

What is wrong with Ron Paul?

You kept dodging this question:

When are you going to show us where Paul said the things you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA?

And that is how it continued. Sorry, Steve, but you're the one dodging here.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Calling me a liar?

Reported.

Now, go ahead and whine about how you didn't actually "call" me a liar. It's semantics; the inference was clear...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

So far, you're the only one arguing the semantics, buddy.

In any case, why do you assume it is a reportable offense? That is the more interesting question.

Another question is: why do you continue to dodge and prove that statement true?

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What's even more interesting is that you're unaware of the forum rules.

See, I assume nothing. Read section 3: Forum Rules

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

You're right, I wasn't aware of that. But that statement was still dishonesty on your part. So why not address that instead of crying to the mods?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

You keep dodging this question:

When are you going to show us where Paul said the things you claimed he said about the FBI and CIA?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

You might keep that in mind next time.

I have no real interest in conversing with someone who, when something is said which he doesn't like, accuses another person of being a liar.

As for "crying to the mods", well, I don't appreciate being called a liar. It's a pretty basic rule and, if you get away with it once, you'll do it again...

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