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Sheriff · #**136** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by Meridious

Obama has no chance of winning either the Presidency or on a ticket as VP. Not going to happen. These aren't the candidates you're looking for.....move along...

Well, let facts and figures speak, Meridious. I believe singular intentions not supported by facts just casts more doubt on the authenticity of the one who makes the claim. It is you.

Today itself brought forward many good news for Obama supporters. One example of the many is below: [The one, for your information, between the quotation marks is a quote. I will make the most important part of it

for you.]

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UAW Region 4 Delegates Throw Support to Obama's Campaign for President

Dubuque, IA | November 15, 2007

DUBUQUE -- Delegates of United Auto Workers Region 4, which includes 30,000 members and retirees in Iowa, voted today to support Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign. The group announced its overwhelming support at the close of a weeklong conference where seven of the major Democratic presidential candidates addressed the group earlier this week.
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"There are many talented Democrats in the presidential field this year, but Barack Obama is the leader who will bring the kind of change to Washington that America's working men and women can believe in," said UAW Local 442 (Webster City, IA) President Paul Erickson. "For the last two decades, working families have been able to count on Barack Obama to stand up for us and our values. We are supporting him, because we know he'll do the same thing in the White House."
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"Politics didn't lead me to working folks - working folks led me into politics," Obama said. "As President, I'll stand up to the special interests and bridge the partisan divide, so that we can have universal health care in America, invest in our students and schools and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. I thank the men and women of UAW Region 4 for their strong support for our campaign to change Washington."

UAW members said Obama's ability to unite the country makes him the strongest candidate in the Democratic field and vowed to use the group's widely respected organizational muscle to help him do well in the first-in-the-nation caucuses.

"Senator Obama's ability to win the support of Republicans and Independents won't just make him the strongest Democrat in the general election - it'll make him the kind of President who can actually get things done for working Americans," said Iowa UAW retiree Andy Anderson. "This endorsement is not about lending our name to his campaign. We're committed to his campaign and are committed to doing the kind of hard work at the grassroots level that'll be critical to his success on Caucus Night."

Region 4 represents 64,000 active and 122,000 retirees in Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

Sheriff · #**137** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by Meridious

In the end, all that this year will be is practice for 2012. Obama cannot win in 08.

Again, you make your intention speak. Your intention is not the intention of UAW Region 4, clearly. Thankfully.

tiny tim · #**138** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by Meridious

In the end, all that this year will be is practice for 2012. Obama cannot win in 08.

I like Obama, but I think you are right. It looked like the DNC packed the Hall with Clinton supporters last night, and Obama seemed taken aback when they booed him. I don't think he's ready for the big show.

Cyberella · #**139** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*hugs cyberella*

thar ya go matey! well done me friend.

i sorta skipped o'er what his mum and father did, and all the exhaustive backround 'o his family, but i found yer well documented history 'o this dealings in government illuminatin'. i have to pour o'er it a bit more, as thar be much to read.

*salutes*

you may be a keyboard warrior matey, and at times have severe racist overtones in yer message, but as a mighty E-Pirate, i liked this run down on mr. obama alot more'n yer past musings. woulda been better fer you if you'd started off on this note.

you be quite a writer, and researcher, to have come up with all that yerself, me pirate hat is off to you.

well done!

-meadhallpirate

Thanks.

Cyberella · #**140** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

OH MY GOD!!!!! We can't say a word against Hussein Obama, he's BLACK for Christ's sake!!!! We gotta vote for him!!!! We'll stick our heads in the sand and ignore his racist, white-man hating actions and words in his book. We'll ignore his racist church. We'll ignore his Islam religion, support and connections- even though we are are war with radical Islam! We gotta ignore the truth even when it's in black and white! He's BLACK, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

Well, I've got news for you; he's not riding the affirmative action thing/race card all the way to the White House. They're enough sane people out there to stop this creature.

You people are so d*mned pumped full of cr@p by the US LIB MEDIA/ACLU Public Indoctrination System that most of you are beyond reach. Talk about lemminggs in lock-step, self impossed ignorance! You misguided, idealistic goofballs deserve all the misery and depression your cynicism brings you. But if you really think that I have not reached people with the truth, you are sadly mistaken. The word is out about this white-man hating, Muslim fraud. He won't make it- not by a long shot.

Ancestry of Barack Obama - Family Tree and Genealogy of Senator Obama
A Liberal seeing both sides by Bud Beck
Sen. Barack Obama Tours Africa - Worldpress.org
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23383304-details/A+drunk+and+a+bigot+-+what+the+US+Presidental+hopeful+HASN'T+said+about +his+father.../article.do
East-West Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Obama’s Identity Crisis

Sheriff · #**141** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by tiny tim

I like Obama, but I think you are right. It looked like the DNC packed the Hall with Clinton supporters last night, and Obama seemed taken aback when they booed him. I don't think he's ready for the big show.

You Clinton is good at planting questioners and carrying people from outside the state to make more noise during the debate. I have made a quick search through the online poll and few showed Hillary as winner.

Cyberella · #**142** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

The truth about this lying, deceiving white man hating fraud hurts, doesn't it?
You can't even accept the facts when they're presented in chronological order in black and white!

Sheriff · #**143** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

Your hatred for Muslim Americans manifests itself in its ugliest way, Cybarella. Here is a list of the treacheries Islamic Hope Foundation has brough about:

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Project Islamic HOPE | Helping Oppressed People Everywhere
Some of Our Accomplishments and Campaigns:

In 2005 Najee Ali, executive Director of Project Islamic H.O.P.E. was selected by Wave Publications as one of the 25 most influential Black leaders In Los Angeles, Ca .
Ali, was selected by Our Weekly Newspaper as their 2005 Newsmaker of the year and also selected by L.A. Alternative Newspaper as one of the top 10 people who changed L.A. in 2005.
Najee Ali, went to Texas and Louisiana for a week to help bring food,supplies,and Hope to victims of Hurricane Katrina.
Najee Ali, executive Director of Project Islamic H.O.P.E. coordinated the march for peace and served as the lead advocate and spokesperson for the Family of Deliesh Roberts Allen the 16 year old Locke H.S.student who was shot to death by a gang member as she was leaving school.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. organized and lead the protests for the removal and relocation of over 70 sex offenders who were living in a sober living house in a residential neighborhood near schools and parks where children play.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E was at the forefront in fighting police abuse and organized protests and spoke out for justice in the flashlight L.A.P.D.bea ting of Stanley Miller,and the shooting deaths of 19 month Susie Pena. by the L.A.P.D.
Najee Ali,Led a protest and was arrested outside the Mexican consulate for protesting a racist Mexican stamp. The Mexican Government then withdrew the stamp.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. Led the successful movement to have blacks hired at Downtown Buffet restaurant in the Crenshaw Mall,
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. Sponsored and Led prayer vigils which Mayor Villaraigosa,attended at Jefferson H.S,in response to racial fights between students.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. Created the Latino and African American Leadership Alliance with Rev Sharpton, and Christine Chavez,to help ease tensions between both ethnic groups.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. holds Peace assembly for students at Jefferson H. S.Guest speakers Rev Sharpton and Christine Chavez,and Najee Ali.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. Pressured Paramount Pictures to remove the violent and offensive" Get Rich or Die Tryin" bill board campaign which featured gangster rapper 50 cent from South LA.neighborhoods and nationally.
Project Islamic H.O.P.E. organized candle light vigils and tributes for Luther Vandross,Johnnie Cochran, Rosa Parks,and Richard Pryor In Leimert Park.
Najee Ali was the Community advocate, peace keeper, and spokesperson for the family's of the two unarmed black men who were shot to death in South Central L.A. by a store owner.

Now, you are either an incurable hater of Muslim, even if they do charitable works you hate them, or you are insane. For which cause do you spend your money and time and energy? To send more guided-missiles to Israel? To kill more Iraqis? To support and advocate ADL and lynch professors? Are you a hater of anything that America deserves?

TheLastBoyScout · #**144** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

I thought Obama really zinged Hillary on Social Security in the debate last night.

He said he supports a tax increase only on the wealthiest 6% of Americans (or something like that) to allow Social Security to stay afloat.

Hillary when asked if she would do the same avoided any such committment.

So much for standing up for the little guy and the working man. Hillary seemed to indicate that she's unwilling to piss off her rich friends and political allies in order to benefit the bulk of the country.

OK.... sorry for the on-topic post. Please continue to read the hate-spamming rants

Cyberella · #**145** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

OH MY GOD!!!!! We can't say a word against Hussein Obama, he's BLACK for Christ's sake!!!! We gotta vote for him!!!! We'll stick our heads in the sand and ignore his racist, white-man hating actions and words in his book. We'll ignore his racist church. We'll ignore his Islam religion, support and connections- even though we are are war with radical Islam! We gotta ignore the truth even when it's in black and white! He's BLACK, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

Well, I've got news for you; he's not riding the affirmative action thing/race card all the way to the White House. They're enough sane people out there to stop this creature.

You people are so d*mned pumped full of cr@p by the US LIB MEDIA/ACLU Public Indoctrination System that most of you are beyond reach. Talk about lemminggs in lock-step, self impossed ignorance! You misguided, idealistic goofballs deserve all the misery and depression your cynicism brings you. But if you really think that I have not reached people with the truth, you are sadly mistaken. The word is out about this white-man hating, Muslim fraud. He won't make it- not by a long shot.

Miranda · #**146** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by partofme

Wow. Her mastery of posting links is impressive. Maybe she will be able to actually give her own summary eventually and address the arguments against her on her own.

I gotta say, conformfailure and atomicbeandog played the chicken little card a hell of a lot better than this...

TheLastBoyScout · #**147** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by Cyberella

OH MY GOD!!!!! We can't say a word against Hussein Obama, he's BLACK for Christ's sake!!!! We gotta vote for him!!!! We'll stick our heads in the sand and ignore his racist, white-man hating actions and words in his book. We'll ignore his racist church. We'll ignore his Islam religion, support and connections- even though we are are war with radical Islam! We gotta ignore the truth even when it's in black and white! He's BLACK, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!................................

Perhaps all this drivel is just what would be expected when a Bush-Loving Christian Crusader is confronted with a prospect of a Democratic presidential candidate who can really deliver on his promise of change to the country

The Bush legacy is already trashed (by his own hand I might add)... The days of the Christian right having undue influence on politics has had it's heyday and is on the decline.

So the apocalyptic, anti-Muslim, anti-black hyperbole is really not a surprise coming from a person in the demographic that stands to lose the most political pride..... but hey correct me if I'm wrong in my assessment.

Malvolio · #**148** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

Whom are you refering to, Malvolio. The post above completely belongs to me. Can't I make quotation from my own thoughts?

No I was referring to some other (now partly deleted) posts, not yours. But the forum rules are there for everybody, of course.

tiny tim · #**149** (**permalink**) 11-16-2007

I don't know why I'm wasting my time. I went through about half of the links. Some of them are neutral or even positive stories. Some rightwing opinion editorials and blogs. Some links whose point I can't comprehend. It really looks like she googled Obama Muslim and posted the first page as links. I'm starting to think our chains are being pulled.