Virginia Governor Tim Kaine explains why he supports Obama. It is encouraging to see people of discretion and reason do not fall prey to the messages of hatred and divisiveness.

Thank you for the link, Tethys. I do love the Tasmanian devil. I find it quite inconvenient that people named that nice creature a devil, besides. There are devilish people, though. They are present there whereever there is a likelyhood of cooperation and harmony to stir people in the street up. Let us beware of them.

Who's a him???

See you noticed I am touched

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Jewish Task Force

This reply to Cyberella seems to be striaght out of the wizard of OZ (pay no attention to the killing behind the curtain, it's only the "media")

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Want government run healthcare? Join the military.

How about your position on gentiles ?

Doesn't this man just exemplify everything we value and hold sacred in America?


>Obama comes from a long line of Muslims- father, grandfather and stepfather. (some rumored to have been terrorist connected)

>Obama IS a Muslim. Muslim law states if you are born into it by means of the father, you ARE a Muslim.
Leaving Islam punishable by death: Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Koran, Vol. 9:57

> Obama has NEVER formally denied it, supports Islam and his closest associates and biggest supporters financially are Muslims.

>Obama's father, grandfather, gg grandfather and stepfather have a history of multiple wives (pologamy) mistresses and 'wives' where no marriage license can be found.

>Obama's Muslim father, grandfather, stepfather have a history of deserting their wives and children.

>Obama attending Muslim schools where he studied the Islam and the Koran.
His teachers and friends testify that he was Muslim.
http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/t...ia-part-3.html

>Obama scorns his white mother who raised him alone and sent him to a fine university after his Muslim father deserted him.

>He scorns the white grandparents who helped raise and educate him.

>He worships and glorifies the Muslim father who deserted them.

(Typical male Muslim behavior. The woman is worthless except for sex and having babies)

>He 'carefully picks his friends' during college years, scorning whites for blacks.
Obama’s Identity Crisis

>Obama stated he ran with blacks only 'to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."
http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Tr...o_worlds_.html




>Obama joined black radical, racist church as a 'cover'.

The church's pastor, Jeremiah Wright is a radical black supremacist who associates with radical Muslims.

The church's doctrine is printed on their website Trinity United Church of Christ


Part of Obama's church doctrine:

Commitment to the BLACK Community

Commitment to the BLACK Family

Adherence to the BLACK Work Ethic

Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the BLACKCommunity

Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting BLACK Institutions

Pledge allegiance to all BLACK leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System

Personal commitment to embracement of the BLACK Value System.

(If your church had such a doctrine, Jesse and Al and the NAACP would have 10,000 demonstrators out front in a heartbeat!!!)



>Obama hates his white heritage, making many racist, hateful remarks againt the white man.
Obama’s Identity Crisis

>Obama admits taking drugs on the tonight show.
Crooks and Liars

>Obama states his brother, Roy, MADE ME THE MOST PROUD WHEN HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM.
http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can...or_Obama_.html



>Obama repeatedly lies to enhance his 'story':
States he was influenced by story in magazine about a black man trying to bleach his skin. No such story exists.
States his grandfather was a poor goat hearder. His father was prosperous.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/3...weet28.article


>Obama's voting record proves he is an extreme radical left winger:

Passed a bill requiring police to videotape interrogations for crimes punishable by the death penalty; legislation to curb racial profiling.

Obama supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, gun control, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.

Obama is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. HE HAS NO MILITARY SERVICE RECORD.

Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.

Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishe!!

Obama opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_cat...an_id=BS030017
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=BS030017



>Obama stated he will stand with Muslim and protect them.
"I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...l_juan_wi.html

>Obama is prominantly displayed as banner boy for Project Islamic H.O.P.E.
Project Islamic HOPE | Helping Oppressed People Everywhere


>Obama the liar
Rookie Mistakes Plague Obama - Politico.com


>Obama Involved in dirty deal with radical Muslim sympathizer, Tony Rezko
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/14/us...WS&oref=slogin

>Obama thinks sex education for kindergartners, 'right thing to do'
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-for-kind.html

>Obama supports La Raza, a Mexican pro-illegal alien group http://cbs4.com/topstories/la.raza.h....2.404560.html

>Obama told La Raza that the mass protests lately of for immigration rights of Mexicans is equal in greatness to the civil rights protest of the past
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/S.../barack_obamas
_strange_ethnic_politics


>Obama refuses to place his hand over his heart to honor the flag
http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...446035,00.html

>Obama states that as president he would reduce drug dealer sentences and address the 'racial inequality' issue
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../28/36580.html

>Obama accuses fellow American citizens of murdering Iraq citizens
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../06/38781.html

>Obama pushes 'the Dream Act', allowing illegal aliens who graduate from high school financial help with college
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../21/42615.html


>The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September.

Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals.
For example, Obama missed a vote on a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite part of the Iranian military, a terrorist organization
Obama making less than a quarter of Senate votes - CNN.com

>Obama takes cheap shot at Bush and Cheney, calls Cheney "crazy uncle in the atic"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-in-the-attic/



>Obama sponsers the Halal food act and it's put into law.

(In other words, hang screaming animals up by their hing legs and slit their throats while they are still alive to drain out all the blood so the flesh will be 'Halal' for Muslims- this is done sometimes by Muslim families as a ritual/party in the yard with family and friends in attendance)

http://www.illinois.gov/PressRelease...=3&RecNum=1517



>Obama the liar. States his folks meet in Selma during the 'march', married and he was born. He was born in 1961. The Selma 'march'
was in 1965.
http://www.illinois.gov/PressRelease...=3&RecNum=1517

Obama's association with radical Muslim supporters
http://www.logoonline.com/news/story...entTypeID=1299

>Obama states 'Nobody is suffering more than Pasestinian people'
The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, a political party that does not recognize Israel's sovereignty and is listed by several countries - including the United States - as a terrorist organization. The United States and other nations imposed restrictions on aid when Hamas gained power last year.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/015619.php


>Obama accuses his fellow American citizens of killing Iraq citizens indiscriminately.
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obam.../06/38781.html

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As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

By the way, I am not Jewish, but I DO have sense enough to see who is right and who is wrong in the Palestine/ Israel conflict.

The “Root Cause” of the Middle East Turmoil
Would peace descend if the Arab-Israeli conflict were resolved?
There are many who are convinced that the existence of Israel and its “alien” presence in the predominantly Muslim Middle East is the “root cause” of the ongoing and never-ending violence in the area and of terror in the world. James Baker, the former secretary of state and head of the U.S. Iraq Study Group (no friend of Israel and of the Jews), also propagates this “root cause” theory of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
What are the facts?
Israel is a tiny country, with only six million inhabitants (a million of whom are Arabs). It is surrounded by 22 Arab countries, with 300 million people. Arab propaganda has convinced the world that Israel is the mighty Goliath compared to the puny Arab states. It is a supreme irony that six million Israelis, surrounded by implacable enemies who are fixated on their destruction, are considered a mortal danger to the Muslims and to the peace of the world. And that, if it were not for Israel and for the Jews, peace would descend upon the world and terror would cease.
Israel is not the “root cause” of this strife and turmoil in the Middle East. Violence and war are endemic in Arab society and in Arab history. Israel was not involved in the deaths of the millions who perished in the Iraq-Iran war. Israel certainly has nothing to do with the slaughter in Iraq, in which on an average day, 100 people or more are killed in the deadly and never-ending Sunni-Shiite conflict. And even though Israel is the common enemy, it has nothing to do with the daily killings between the rival factions of Palestinians. Arab-Muslims killed over a million of black Christians and animists in the Sudan and brought intolerable suffering to that impoverished region. The Sudanese government, dominated by Arab-Muslims, hasn’t lifted a finger to help its citizens. The slaughter goes on. Israel is certainly not involved in that. The thousands whom Hafez Assad, the father of the current president of Syria, slaughtered in the city of Hama for having voiced opposition to his rule have no connection with Israel. Abdal Gamel Nasser, the self-appointed president of Egypt, mortal enemy of Israel and instigator of the Six-Day War, did not invade Yemen and gassed its people because of Israel. Saddam Hussein did not torture and kill tens of thousands of his own people and did not invade Kuwait because of Israel. The Lebanese did not stage their civil war and kill tens of thousands of their own people because of Israel. And there are many more examples of intra-Muslim and intra-Arab slaughter and mayhem. Israel was uninvolved in any of those.
And how about terror? Again, many believe that Israel is the “root cause” of the terror that Arab-Muslims have visited and continue to visit upon the world. The attack on our country on September 11, 2001, the destruction of the two U.S. embassies in West Africa, the bombing of trains in Spain, the murderous attacks on the London subway system, and so many other acts of cowardly terror would have taken place even if there were no Israel. They are a reflection of the hatred that the Muslim world harbors against the West and its institutions. That hatred has nothing to do with Israel. And many believe that if only the United States would withhold its support from Israel (and get out of Iraq), terror would cease and the world would no longer have to fear the scourge of suicide bombings, the devilish invention that Arab-Muslims have visited on the people of the earth. It is an illusion. That hatred would continue even if Israel would cease to exist tomorrow.
Many claim that Arab-Muslim terror is the result of despair, hopelessness and poverty. But that is patently absurd. The Arabs are some of the richest people in the world, although, instead of using their enormous wealth to benefit their people, they squander it in bizarre luxury excesses for a privileged few. The nineteen hijackers were not poor or desperate. They were, without exception, well-educated people, members of upper-middle class families. The leaders of such Arab-Muslim terror organizations as Hamas, Hezbollah or Islamic Jihad are educated people, from the upper reaches of their societies. No, terror is the customary response of Arab-Muslims to express their grievances. It is a result of their culture and of their history. It has nothing to do with Israel and would not be any different if Israel had never existed or would cease to exist.
The proclivity to war and to terror on the part of the Arab-Muslims has nothing or little to do with Israel. It is the result of their culture and of their history. For centuries, the historical Muslim empires of the Middle East were confident societies, which long led the despised Christian West in terms of science and economic well-being, as well as in military power. But then a lasting reversal and decline set in, in which the loss of Spain and the ascent of the West and its towering achievements in every human endeavor played a key role. This thirst for war against each other and against the hated infidels – foremost among them Americans and Israelis – and the lust for terror will not end until Arab-Muslims come to terms with the West and accept its predominant role. But that may take a very long time – in fact, it may never happen.
FLAME: The“Root Cause”of the Middle East Turmoil: Would peace descend if the Arab-Israeli conflict were resolved?

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As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Cyberella, if you want to live in a place where Muslims arent tolerated, move to Israel with your fellow Zionists, and quick trying to take down my country.

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Cultural insecurities are the foundation of American conservatism.

Interesting that you state that those who disagree with you want to "take down your country". That sounds like the "anti-American" card you are playing. The price of living in a free society is to live with those whose views differ from yours. If you find that hard to accept, then you may find yourself a bitter young man.

Not tolerating intolerance is not the same as being intolerant.

Yet I still prefer to live in a country where one who believes that the holocaust didn't happen, for example, can be assured that s/he is not imprisoned, no matter how distasteful it is. I will tolerate distaste, which is fleeting, to lack of free speech. That is very American; and that is tolerance.

>Obama comes from a long line of Muslims- father, grandfather and stepfather. (some rumored to have been terrorist connected)

Never denied. His father was not paticularly religious and none of his relatives were anything approaching extremist.

>Obama IS a Muslim. Muslim law states if you are born into it by means of the father, you ARE a Muslim.
Leaving Islam punishable by death: Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Koran, Vol. 9:57

So by some interpretation of the Koran, some Muslims may believe he is a Muslim. Since Obama himself is not a Muslim, I doubt he much cares what Islamic law states.

> Obama has NEVER formally denied it, supports Islam and his closest associates and biggest supporters financially are Muslims.

Absolute bullshit. obama_is_a_committed_christian.php

>Obama's father, grandfather, gg grandfather and stepfather have a history of multiple wives (pologamy) mistresses and 'wives' where no marriage license can be found.


>Obama's Muslim father, grandfather, stepfather have a history of deserting their wives and children.

What does this have to do with Barack? Three of the leading Rebublican candidates are divorced and remarried. Barack is by all accounts a dedicated family man.

>Obama attending Muslim schools where he studied the Islam and the Koran.
His teachers and friends testify that he was Muslim.

More absolute bullshit. See link above. Why are you so determined to believe lies?

>Obama scorns his white mother who raised him alone and sent him to a fine university after his Muslim father deserted him.

>He scorns the white grandparents who helped raise and educate him.

>He worships and glorifies the Muslim father who deserted them.

(Typical male Muslim behavior. The woman is worthless except for sex and having babies)

Lies, lies, lies.

BarackObama.com | About Barack

>He 'carefully picks his friends' during college years, scorning whites for blacks.


>Obama stated he ran with blacks only 'to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

Finally, something with a grain of truth. This line is from his first book. He is discussing his identity crisis as a mixed race young man in college. His honesty is refreshing.




>Obama joined black radical, racist church as a 'cover'.

The church's pastor, Jeremiah Wright is a radical black supremacist who associates with radical Muslims.

The church's doctrine is printed on their website Trinity United Church of Christ


Part of Obama's church doctrine:

Commitment to the BLACK Community

Commitment to the BLACK Family

Adherence to the BLACK Work Ethic

Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the BLACKCommunity

Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting BLACK Institutions

Pledge allegiance to all BLACK leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System

Personal commitment to embracement of the BLACK Value System.

(If your church had such a doctrine, Jesse and Al and the NAACP would have 10,000 demonstrators out front in a heartbeat!!!)

By “your church” I guess you are assuming everyone here is white. Typical. If you go to the site, you’ll see that while the language is somewhat troubling, the message is basically the same message that conservatives praise Bill Cosby for delivering. Self reliance, personal responsibility, hard work, devotion to family. Except for the politics, Bill Cosby could recite the message of this church and be applauded by people like cyberella. Nothing remotely suggesting “Black Supremecy”


>Obama hates his white heritage, making many racist, hateful remarks againt the white man.
Obama’s Identity Crisis

I read your link, a conservative smear editorial, and I still don’t know what you are talking about.

>Obama admits taking drugs on the tonight show.

And?

>Obama states his brother, Roy, MADE ME THE MOST PROUD WHEN HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM.

And?



>Obama repeatedly lies to enhance his 'story':
States he was influenced by story in magazine about a black man trying to bleach his skin. No such story exists.

He said he read it in Life magazine. No such story could be found in that magazine. It was a memoir, maybe he got the magazine wrong.

States his grandfather was a poor goat hearder. His father was prosperous.

But he did herd goats at one point in his life. He was romanticizing, big deal.


>Obama's voting record proves he is an extreme radical left winger:

Passed a bill requiring police to videotape interrogations for crimes punishable by the death penalty; legislation to curb racial profiling.

Obama supports homosexual marriage, racial preferences, gun control, flag-burning, socialized medicine and the absolute right to abortion, including partial-birth abortions. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive.

Obama is anti-war, voted against the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act, against privatizing Social Security and opposes the death penalty, three strikes laws and school vouchers. HE HAS NO MILITARY SERVICE RECORD.

Obama opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.

That’s great!!!! Those are some of the reasons he’ll get my vote in the primary.

Obama opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishe!!

Obama opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times

A goofy law that demands miscarried fetuses as young as 16 weeks be placed on futile life support. Another good call.

>Obama stated he will stand with Muslim and protect them.
"I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


>Obama is prominantly displayed as banner boy for Project Islamic H.O.P.E.

He’s against anti-Muslim discrimination. Good for him.


>Obama the liar
Rookie Mistakes Plague Obama - Politico.com

Another link that dosen’t support the accusation. There are some disprepencies in his memoir. Find me a celebrity or political memoir with no discrepancies and I’ll vote for Guliani.


>Obama Involved in dirty deal with radical Muslim sympathizer, Tony Rezko

A shady deal. I’ll give you that one. However it’s important to note that Obama’s relationship with Rezko ended before Rezko came under government scrutiny.

>Obama thinks sex education for kindergartners, 'right thing to do'

And? He was talking about education for kids to protect them from sexual abuse.

>Obama supports La Raza, a Mexican pro-illegal alien group >Obama told La Raza that the mass protests lately of for immigration rights of Mexicans is equal in greatness to the civil rights protest of the past

Don’t agree but it’s his view.


>Obama refuses to place his hand over his heart to honor the flag

Debunked. Media Matters - Regarding national anthem "controversy," Hannity asks: "Is this another statement" by Obama?

>Obama states that as president he would reduce drug dealer sentences and address the 'racial inequality' issue

That actually already is happening with penalties for crack cocaine being brought in line with penalties for powder cocaine.

>Obama accuses fellow American citizens of murdering Iraq citizens

Lie.

>Obama pushes 'the Dream Act', allowing illegal aliens who graduate from high school financial help with college

Yeah, who’s gonna wash our dishes if the damn Mexicans get educated. Sheesh.


>The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September.

Yep. That’s too many.

Obama routinely avoids voting on any issue that is not helpful to Muslim goals.
For example, Obama missed a vote on a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite part of the Iranian military, a terrorist organization

Why would he support ramping up too another illegal, unjust war?

>Obama takes cheap shot at Bush and Cheney, calls Cheney "crazy uncle in the atic"

That’s totally cool!



>Obama sponsers the Halal food act and it's put into law.

(In other words, hang screaming animals up by their hing legs and slit their throats while they are still alive to drain out all the blood so the flesh will be 'Halal' for Muslims- this is done sometimes by Muslim families as a ritual/party in the yard with family and friends in attendance)

I already answered this, but you are only interested in the sound of your own voice. Obama co-sponsed the bill with 5 other state Senators including two Republicans. It was signed into law by a Republican Governor. I suppose all the meat you eat dies of natural causes?



>Obama the liar. States his folks meet in Selma during the 'march', married and he was born. He was born in 1961. The Selma 'march'
was in 1965.

Didn’t say they met there, said they met as a result of what happened there. In other words, the civil rights movement made bi-racial relationships more acceptable. The chronology is not the point.

Obama's association with radical Muslim supporters

OK, half of your links don’t work and I’ve already spent more time on you than you deserve so I’m just going to assume this one is bullshit too.

>Obama states 'Nobody is suffering more than Pasestinian people'
The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, a political party that does not recognize Israel's sovereignty and is listed by several countries - including the United States - as a terrorist organization. The United States and other nations imposed restrictions on aid when Hamas gained power last year.

He’s talking about the Palistinian people, who have suffered greatly.


>Obama accuses his fellow American citizens of killing Iraq citizens indiscriminately.

Still a lie.
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Curious. When does your CAIR/ACLU membership expire?

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As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Your 'rebuttal' to my list of reasons Obama is not fit to be president did more to prove my points than to disprove them.
You left wing radicals just get SO angry when you can't disprove the sordid facts of Hussein's life, don't you?
All anyone interested has to do is READ, research, check the links. The truth about this lying, dirty-dealing Muslim is all there- and he will NOT ride the affirmative action/race card to the White House.

By the way, when does YOUR CAIR/ACLU membership expire?

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As a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation.

Never forget:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Alright cyberella enough. You may think you are clever but there is nothing you can do to prevent the rule of Obama (Peace be upon him). Soon you will wear the Burqa and submit to the righteous dominance of Allah!!! Fortunately for you, Obama (peace be upon him) has gazed upon your visage and found it pleasing!! You shall join his harem and be privileged to bear him many sons. All the rest of you prepare to serve under the reign of Obama (peace be upon him) the benevolent and merciful or die!!!!

By the way, my CAIR/ACLU memberships expire in January, thanks for reminding me.