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Old 11-20-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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What happened, Cyberella and Infidel, the JTF warriors?
Warriors well no just two women having our say. With Jewish Task Force, Sheriff you are most welcome to join and have your opinion heard

I was a way, because I did have to work

And Just because I Moderate there doesn't mean I will ban you

More than welcome just leave all strap on bombs, and bottle of acid to the left when entering. And I will ensure our camels are well covered so you don't get distracted.

I can't be fairer than that.

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Old 11-20-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

I am glad you are the same Cyberella I have known since I started writing in this forum. Those were nice pictures. You are, or the fanatics you belong to, are getting better at working with "photoshop." The sad point is that you haven't ever fingered at the fanatic, hateful and extremist ideology of yours, which is true, which is dragging America into a quagmire, which is back-warded. You are like Jonathan Pollard. You would not hesitate spying on America for the sake of Israel and Zionism. These are facts which can be proven. These are not "Photoshop" slanders. Wait for my response, you bigot. I will prepare better photoshop decuments.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Cyberella, you have lost your authenticity with all those ridiculous photoshop drawings. Congratulations.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Rachel Corrie, when Israeli killers bulldozed her in the terrorized lands of Palestine… They are ready to kill more Americans for their own ends, including Obama. If you are a peace lover, humane person, you can easily imagine yourself wrapped in the same Stars and Stripes as Rachel Corrie. They hate anyone if they smell you are a good, peace loving person. Rachel Corrie is one of the exampels of the victims of the Zionist, right-wing, extreme ideology that tries to take hold in America more deeply. Don’t let this happen once again.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Jason Marcel wrote:


The real issue is not being experienced or not. The real issue is to be sincere and straightforward, two qualities that Obama fits perfectly. America has been reduced to a third-world country in the people's eyes by one of the most "experienced" team ever controlled the government and look at the results. And Obama is not as inexperienced as you think he is. Take a look at that:

Diatribes of Jay: Barack Obama's "Inexperience"
I think the experience issue has consistently been presented out of context. It would be more accurate to say he's too new to Washington to have become the traditional, self-serving, principles-for-sale, career politician that we've all come to expect. He's essentially an untainted candidate, something you don't see often in US politics, particularly in presidential races.
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Old 11-21-2007
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How they killed Rachel Corrie. Read the moving story of her bravery and self-sacrifice for one oppressed nation.

Search Results | Seattle Times Newspaper

Search Results | Seattle Times Newspaper

USATODAY.com - Israeli bulldozer kills American woman

Read how the Israelis behave to the body of an American girl they have just killed:

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The Israeli army yesterday prevented an ambulance carrying the body of a US activist who was crushed to death by a bulldozer a day earlier from leaving the Gaza Strip, Palestinian security sources said.

Rachel Corrie, a volunteer from the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), was buried alive by an Israeli bulldozer on Sunday afternoon as she was trying to prevent the demolition of a Palestinian house in Rafah, on the border between the Gaza Strip and Egypt.

Corrie's parents were not able to fly from Washington DC to attend the funeral due to travel restrictions imposed by the United States on US citizens wishing to go to Israel in the context of an imminent war in Iraq.

They had asked that the body be cremated in Tel Aviv and her ashes flown back to the US. However, they declined to allow their daughter's remains to be transferred by the Israeli army or the US embassy, ISM activists said.
Cape Argus: Israel holds US woman's body
Rachel Corrie says: If Americans Knew.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/downl...ls_letters.pdf
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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http://www.ifamericansknew.org/downl...ls_letters.pdf

“Let me know if you have any ideas about
what I should do with the rest of my life.”

- Rachel’s last email -

From a letter to Rachel’s mother dated February 27th, 2003:

“Love you. Really miss you. I have bad nightmares about tanks and
bulldozers outside our house and you and me inside. Sometimes the
adrenaline acts as an anesthetic for weeks and then in the evening or
at night it just hits me again - a little bit of the reality of the situation.
I am really scared for the people here.

“Yesterday, I watched a father lead his two tiny children, holding his
hands, out into the sight of tanks and a sniper tower and bulldozers
and Jeeps because he thought his house was going to be exploded...I
was terrified to think that this man felt it was less of a risk to walk
out in view of the tanks with his kids than to stay in his house. I
was really scared that they were all going to be shot and I tried to
stand between them and the tank. This happens every day, but just
this father walking out with his two little kids just looking very sad,
just happened to get my attention more at this particular moment...


“When I come back from Palestine, I probably will have nightmares
and constantly feel guilty for not being here, but I can channel that
into more work. Coming here is one of the better things I've ever
done. So when I sound crazy, or if the Israeli military should break
with their racist tendency not to injure white people, please pin the
reason squarely on the fact that I am in the midst of a genocide
which I am also indirectly supporting, and for which my government
is largely responsible.


“I love you and Dad...”
Cyberella and Infidel... Think how many lives should be taken before you are backed from your ideology of hatred and blood.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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I think the experience issue has consistently been presented out of context. It would be more accurate to say he's too new to Washington to have become the traditional, self-serving, principles-for-sale, career politician that we've all come to expect. He's essentially an untainted candidate, something you don't see often in US politics, particularly in presidential races.
I did not write any of that. Why are you attributing it to me?
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

I wrote that I question Obama's experience. I liked that he wasn't for the war from the beginning, but what will he do now? He believes in big gov't which just isn't serving the American people well right now. What does he really think about immigration? He'll bring the troops home, but what else will he do? Will he seriously consider changing the failed policies in the Middle East altogether? What about the environment? He isn't leading on any particular issue to me. I want to feel from a candidate that they have a specific direction they want to take the country and I just haven't heard it from him yet.
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Old 11-21-2007
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I want to get something striaght; I am not condemning all Muslims. I am sure some have never read the Koran, just as some of us have never read the Bible. I am condemning ISLAM. Radical Islam is the true form of Islam. The Koran teaches Muslims to murder all unbelievers, invade their countries and take them over, loot, rob and rape.
(today, the cunning, evil Islam takes over a country by migrating in mass and using its own democracy and laws to defeat it)

MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE KORAN IS THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD as dictated to Mohammed.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. 80- 90 percent of the Koran is composed of this kind advocacy for murder, conquering , looting and rape:

THE KORAN TEACHES MUSLIMS THEY MUST FIGHT AND KILL UNBELIEVERS

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)


THE KORAN PROMISES MUSLIMS COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS
Sura 33 "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .


THE KORAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO BE QUIET UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS TO START DEMANDING THEIR WAY IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED
"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).


THE KORAN TELL MUSLIMS TO FIGHT- AND ALL INFIDELS MUST PAY TAXES TO THEM
Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)


THE KORAN TEACHES DECEIPT
Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.


"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193


Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS


THE HEAD OF CAIR BLATANTLY STATES THE AIM OF ISLAM IS TO DOMINATE THE U.S.!!

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

Am I Islamophobic? A phobia is a baseless irrational fear. Detestation of Islamism is based on irrefutable facts (as presented above) and it is not only rational, it is ethically imperative.
It is a virtue to hate tyranny, misogyny, discriminations of all sorts, oppression, and all manners of violations of the legitimate rights of the individual and citizens in general. It morally RIGHT to take action to oppose the evil cancer that is Islam that is spreading in the U.S.

Western Civilization, whether Libs like it or not, is based upon the morality outlined in the Bible, and it has been our adherence to this morality that has determined the strength of our civilization. Christianity has gone through a reformation, to the point where it does not inspire hatred of anyone nor violence. Contrast that with the fact the ISLAM CANNOT BE CHANGED OR REFORMED.
Today's Christians have evolved into a civilized society but Islamics still reside in the 7th century.
Violent acts by today's Christians are condemned by the rest of society. Whereas the incidents of Islamic terrorist attacks are defended by the by Islam. They are just carrying out what the Koran tells them to do. Judeo-Christian civilization has given the world numerous ideas of human rights that are directly challanged by Islam (Do you know the Prime Minister of Turkey (a devout Muslim) recently stated that there is no moderate/extreme Islam, there is just Islam. ?)
Neville Chaimberlin insisted on ignoring Hitler's plain statements, and the whole world paid the price. Now Libs are insisting that we ignore the plain statements contained in the Koran, and the stated intentions of Ahmanejadh.


The demonic Koran plainly lays down a plan of action for true Muslim- murder and violence to place Islam in control of the globe. Barack HUSSEIN Obama PLAINLY is pro-Islamic:


Obama stated he will stand with Muslim and protect them.
"I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Debbie Schlussel

>Obama is prominantly displayed as banner boy for Project Islamic H.O.P.E.
Project Islamic HOPE | Helping Oppressed People Everywhere

Obama attending Muslim schools where he studied Islam and the Koran.
His teachers and friends testify that he was Muslim.
An American Expat in Southeast Asia

'NOBODY IS SUFFERING MORE THAN THE PALENTINIAN PEOPLE,' OBAMA SAID, while on the final leg of his weekend trip to eastern Iowa.
The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, a political party that does not recognize Israel's sovereignty and is listed by several countries - including the United States - as a terrorist organization. The United States and other nations imposed restrictions on aid when Hamas gained power last year.
Dhimmi Watch: Obama: "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people"

‘Trapped between two worlds’ - Examiner.com


Angry Obama the pothead is not how they remember him in Hawaii - Telegraph

Obama's association with radical Muslim supporters

Obama’s Identity Crisis

: News : Obama's Gay-Friendly, Palestinian-Positive Church In Spotlight| Logo Online

Obama states his brother, Roy, made him the most proud when he converted to Islam
Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? - Examiner.com



If just ONE of the accusations against Barack Hussein Obama were true, it should be enough to prevent voting for this man. To turn a blind eye to ALL of the proven facts is sheer insanity.
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Old 11-21-2007
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I did not write any of that. Why are you attributing it to me?
Sorry, that was a formatting error from Sheriff's post.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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I think the experience issue has consistently been presented out of context. It would be more accurate to say he's too new to Washington to have become the traditional, self-serving, principles-for-sale, career politician that we've all come to expect. He's essentially an untainted candidate, something you don't see often in US politics, particularly in presidential races.
The basic experience issue is the fact that Obama does not have a significant amount of experience actually leading large organizations. It is like taking an entry level manager and making them the CEO of a company like IBM. While this person has great ideas and great intentions, he or she is not going to have the administrative/managerial experience to transform ideas into reality on that level. More likely than not, this person will be overwhelmed and unsuccessful.

If Obama is going to be a leader in the Democratic Party, give him the opportunity to demostrate managerial leadership in reasonable steps. The position of President, however, should not be given to managerially unexperienced people. The stakes are way too high.

I also feel the same way about Hillary.
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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Thank A Muslim
By Rich Carroll
Thank a Muslim


So, you are one of the dunderheads who think "most Muslims are
peaceful". You also believe there are several editions of their holy
book and the mean, nasty terrorists read the evil version. Keep
fooling yourself, and your children into believing this lie. In the
meantime, continue to thank a Muslim for:

The memorial in New York City dedicated to 3,000 Americans
slaughtered at the hands of Muslims.
Thank the hundreds of "peaceful Muslims" who danced in the streets
of Dearborn, Michigan in pure joy as the Twin Towers collapsed into a
giant morgue.
Thank a Muslim for the memorial to Flight 93 in Pennsylvania,
dedicated to those passengers who gave all at the hands of your
"peaceful Muslims".
Thank a Muslim for flying a jetliner full of terrified Americans into the
Pentagon to slaughter innocent people for "Allah".
Thank a Muslim for turning the nation of my forefather's upside-down
because we never know when a "peaceful Muslim" will do Allah's will
and blow up your child's school bus, or their school.
Thank a Muslim for filing civil suits daily in America to remove our
traditions. Thank one for moving here from an Islamic hell-hole and
being "offended" by our celebration of our savior's birth.
Thank a Muslim when you read that their women are considered
second class citizens and butchered in sadistic sexual surgery.
Thank a Muslim when you are searched at your airport while flying to
grandma's house for Christmas and spend two additional hours
passing "security".
Thank a Muslim knowing your nation is spending hundreds of billions
of dollars devoted to security infra-structure when these monies could
go to schools, roads, public assistance, and medical assistance.
Thank a Muslim for building 4 mosques a week in the United States,
while not allowing a Christian church to be build on their land under
penalty of death.
Thank a Muslim who tells you on your tax-funded street that he is
"offended" by the cross you wear or the Bible you carry.
Thank a Muslim for ridiculing the American Flag; the same one that has
flown over battlefields and cemeteries as a symbol of sacrifice to keep
peoples free and not under the brutal tyrannies like Islam.
Thank a Muslim for someone representing his cult announcing on
television daily around the globe that all Jews and Christians should
die.
Thank a Muslim for moving to your country but not wanting to
assimilate by announcing being "offended" at our clothing and food.
Thank a Muslim that public schools now teach our small children about
Islam, but are not allowed to teach Christianity or mention God or
Jesus.
Thank a Muslim for using billions of oil dollar revenues to put Muslim
politicians in your nation's government.
Thank a Muslim for the last 9982 terrorist bombs Islam has exploded
around the world to kill innocent non-Muslims in the name of PEACE.
Thank a Muslim for moving to the United States of America and being
"offended" at Christmas and working feverishly to stop this traditional
holiday for us.
Thank a Muslim for adhering to a holy book that strictly tells them to
"never make friends with a Jew or infidel".

Thank A Muslim (American Apathy)
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The position of President, however, should not be given to managerially unexperienced people. The stakes are way too high.
While I do agree with you, I can't recall the last US president who had such experience.

Ross Perot was the last candidate like that.
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Old 11-22-2007
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Facts have proven Obama has as much experience as the former Presidents were and the current presidential hopefulls are. That's the point one should attach importance to. Obama is not the worst candidate we have today. He has, at least, the same amount of experience as his competitors.

Great Obama photos from Time magazine:

Barack Obama: Portrait of a Candidate - Photo Essays - TIME

A nice poem I found on a Obama fan web site. It is shared by many, so I don't know exactly by whom it was written. It is nice to read, though:

In God we Trust

so we don't sin

In Obama we Must

so we can win

Our time on earth

Is about love

Our work for Barack

will direct us above

One day

we shall pass

That time of fear

will be our last

So we stay

steady and strong

to make all feel

that they belong
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