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Old 01-04-2008
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Old 01-05-2008
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The republican election machine will hamer away at Obama and his supposed muslim ties. Their ability to raise the fear level of this country (See:Elections 2002 and 2004) will rip him to pieces. He will be swiftboated by them over and over again until even loyal Democrats begin to have doubts. They will bring in teachers and fellow students from Indonesia testifying that the guy is a muslim and than they will quote statements like his support for the Palestinians. They will than administer the final blow by bringing in his minister or some other respectable person to say that they always had doubts about the guy and his committment to Christianity. Obama will be (accidently of course) be called Osama more often than a dog has fleas and by Nov4th he has done nothing but defend himself and he will go down in flames! Please, let's put somebody in there who is an open book!
Obama went to a catholic school in Indonesia, and a state run school, which although Muslim (Indonesia is after all, a Muslim country) included students from various religions.

He probably has a far better understanding of Islam (as in the ordinary everyday variety) than any other political leader in the US, which is would no doubt be an asset if he gets the top job, since this would involve working with leaders from the Muslim world - and other places as well. That he has some understanding of Asia is certainly an advantage.

Obama is not a Muslim. His stepfather was. An ordinary everyday Muslim.

If people can't cope with that - well then maybe the US isn't the beacon of freedom and tolerance it likes to present itself as.

He certainly comes across as rational. It would be nice to see a rational leader 'of the free world'.
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Obama went to a catholic school in Indonesia, and a state run school, which although Muslim (Indonesia is after all, a Muslim country) included students from various religions.

He probably has a far better understanding of Islam (as in the ordinary everyday variety) than any other political leader in the US, which is would no doubt be an asset if he gets the top job, since this would involve working with leaders from the Muslim world - and other places as well. That he has some understanding of Asia is certainly an advantage.

Obama is not a Muslim. His stepfather was. An ordinary everyday Muslim.

If people can't cope with that - well then maybe the US isn't the beacon of freedom and tolerance it likes to present itself as.

He certainly comes across as rational. It would be nice to see a rational leader 'of the free world'.
No I don't think the rep's will hammer away at Obama and Islamic linkage etc..thats stupid, its ridiculous for the reasons you stipulated and a loser..I would be turned off instantly.

And, IF Huck were to get the rep nod, I wouldn't expect the dems to bang away at his religious influences either...would we?

Or if its Romney hear about his Mormonism.....but I suspect the media, would not be able to help themselves ..and then we’ll see the penny drop.
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INVASION USA
Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan




By Joseph Farah



Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.
Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.

Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense.


But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.

While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.

While no one – in or out of government – tracks all U.S. accidents caused by illegal aliens, the statistical and anecdotal evidence suggests many of last year's 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.

A report by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Study found 20 percent of fatal accidents involve at least one driver who lacks a valid license. In California, another study showed that those who have never held a valid license are about five times more likely to be involved in a fatal road accident than licensed drivers.

Statistically, that makes them an even greater danger on the road than drivers whose licenses have been suspended or revoked – and nearly as dangerous as drunk drivers.

King also reports eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.

Based on a one-year in-depth study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute of Atlanta estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each. She analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants.

As the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases, so does the number of American victims.

According to Edwin Rubenstien, president of ESR Research Economic Consultants, in Indianapolis in 1980, federal and state correctional facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens. But at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.

While the federal government doesn't track illegal alien murders, illegal alien rapes or illegal alien drunk driving deaths, it has studied illegal aliens incarcerated in U.S. prisons.

In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003. It found the following:

The 55,322 illegal aliens studied represented a total of 459,614 arrests – some eight arrests per illegal alien;
Their arrests represented a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses – some 13 offenses per illegal alien;
36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.


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Obama's speech to La Raza:


(La Raza (The Race), Largest Hispanic organization in the U.S.
Lobbies for racial preferences, bilingual education, stricter hate crimes laws, mass immigration, and amnesty for illegal aliens )



Obama said the recent Senate immigration debate "was both ugly and racist in a way we haven't see since poststhe struggle for civil rights."...
Obama told La Raza that the mass protests lately of for immigration rights of Mexicans is equal in greatness to the civil rights protest of the past!




Omama supports La Raza's, the "DREAM Act," which would mandate states to offer in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens -- thus providing them with benefits not available to U.S. citizens from other states.

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"I will stand with the Muslims and protect them.." Obama. Barack Obama
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Get the facts on the life and career of Barack Obama
that the media covers up:

[www.freedomsenemies.com]
Barack Obama

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They just don't get it , do they?
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I was very sure of Obama's victory and now far more sure of a better result for the rest of the primary. Many have a huge trust towards him.

Cyberella seems to be having panic attacks of xenophobia, poor girl! Let's pray for her quick departure from America to Israel by "illegal" ET's. In Tel Aviv they say they have a big mad woman center inflicted with xenophobia and hatred towards anything non-JudeoChristian.

Obama for America! The new President of ours. God bless him!
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good info. chassisman..

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Obama said the recent Senate immigration debate "was both ugly and racist in a way we haven't see since poststhe struggle for civil rights."...
Obama told La Raza that the mass protests lately of for immigration rights of Mexicans is equal in greatness to the civil rights protest of the past!

this will surely come back if hes the nominee...we'll see it again..and we should....
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Old 01-05-2008
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I concur. I was going to post the same thing.
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Old 01-05-2008
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I can't wait for Galaxina to show up with an opposing viewpoint.
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Obama went to a catholic school in Indonesia, and a state run school, which although Muslim (Indonesia is after all, a Muslim country) included students from various religions.

He probably has a far better understanding of Islam (as in the ordinary everyday variety) than any other political leader in the US, which is would no doubt be an asset if he gets the top job, since this would involve working with leaders from the Muslim world - and other places as well. That he has some understanding of Asia is certainly an advantage.

Obama is not a Muslim. His stepfather was. An ordinary everyday Muslim.

If people can't cope with that - well then maybe the US isn't the beacon of freedom and tolerance it likes to present itself as.

He certainly comes across as rational. It would be nice to see a rational leader 'of the free world'.
Great post Daisym. If you think of the amont of bigotry and xenophobia culminated in America, it looks like a miracle that Obama did so well in Iowa.

May I make an assumption that these fanatic bastards are in fact so few -- so few that they are able to make so much noise like a squawking pig under butcher's knife.

Obama's moment is now. The Obama movement is fu**ing those that fear the variety and harmony of America.
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I concur. I was going to post the same thing.
Cyberella is the illegitimate child of Daniel Pipes. They look so much alike.

She's the spitting image of him.
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You must be moon's illegitimate child.
You must be yourself.

Back to Obama's presidency. Endorsments matter:

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Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle today endorsed Barack Obama for President, citing his ability to build a coalition of Democrats, independents, and Republicans that will win in November, and finally deal with big challenges like delivering affordable health care for all Americans, expanding access to education, and bringing fiscal responsibility to Washington.

“As a Governor, I am impressed that Barack Obama has shown leadership qualities throughout his 20 years in public service that are essential for an effective executive,” said Governor Jim Doyle. “Obama listens to competing points of view, but makes strong decisions; he identifies problems, and builds coalitions to confront them; and he inspires people to come together behind a vision of change. He has campaigned like he will govern, by bringing people together and inspiring average Americans to participate in the political process so that we can take on the special interests and the great challenges we face.”

Governor Doyle also called Obama the Democrat who gives the party the best chance to win back the White House: “Obama is in the strongest position to win battleground states like Wisconsin in November and to boost the Democratic majority because he puts problem solving ahead of partisan squabbling.”
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Great post Daisym. If you think of the amont of bigotry and xenophobia culminated in America, it looks like a miracle that Obama did so well in Iowa.

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No, its only a miracle in someone mind who sees what they want to see, but doesn't in fact exist in terms they love to laud. A HUGE majority of white christian Iowans voted for obama..you see this as a miracle? I see it as par for the course.....maybe people aren't as wrapped up in race/relgion as you are or think they are...ever consider that?
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Back to Obama's presidency. Endorsments matter:
yes they do, imagine, a white, christian gov. endorsing obama....are you still shocked?
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No, its only a miracle in someone mind who sees what they want to see, but doesn't in fact exist in terms they love to laud. A HUGE majority of white christian Iowans voted for obama..you see this as a miracle? I see it as par for the course.....maybe people aren't as wrapped up in race/relgion as you are or think they are...ever consider that?
Yes, I have. And I am very thankful to my fellow Americans for this. Has this soothed you?
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