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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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If you are as young as you look in the picture then obviously the younger generation still has it's bigotry. You may not like my use of that word but even if he was a Muslim the fact that you are putting down the entire religion and acting like all Muslims are Jihadists qualifies.
Oh, so NOW we're pulling the bigot card, are we? Forget racist? (well, maybe you're bright enought to know Islam is not a race) I am NOT putting down all Muslims.


You wanna talk about bigots?? OK. Directly from the Koran, the 'bible' of the 'religion of peace':


Mohammed refered to blacks as "raisin heads and pug nose slaves . ( Sahih Moslem vol. 9, pgs. 46-47) Muslims were notorious slave holders.

MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE KORAN IS THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD as dictated to Mohammed.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. 80- 90 percent of the Koran is composed of this kind advocacy for murder, conquering , looting and rape:


WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Sura 33 (a promise to faithful Muslims of countries to conquer) "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).
(Muslims are quiet until they have the numbers to start demanding their way in the country they have invaded)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

Quran 4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.

(Quran 5:33): The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is: EXECUTION OR CRUCIFIXION OR THE CUTTING OFF OF HANDS AND FEET FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDES or exile from the land.


(Quran 8:12): Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

76: 4): Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire.

"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.
(What does THAT tell you??)

A report form Freedom House about Saudi funded Mosques preaching terror in America:
http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/..._report/45.pdf
(Do you have ANY idea the hate that some American mosques are spreading in this country??)



If you who have spoken up in defense of Hussein O. and Islam would do a little research, you might see that this country is in trouble with radical Islam and is headed down the road to major, major problems such as Europe is facing today. Their individual cultures are in the process of being destroyed.
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Oh, so NOW we're pulling the bigot card, are we? Forget racist? (well, maybe you're bright enought to know Islam is not a race) I am NOT putting down all Muslims.


You wanna talk about bigots?? OK. Directly from the Koran, the 'bible' of the 'religion of peace':


Mohammed refered to blacks as "raisin heads and pug nose slaves . ( Sahih Moslem vol. 9, pgs. 46-47) Muslims were notorious slave holders.

MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE KORAN IS THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD as dictated to Mohammed.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. 80- 90 percent of the Koran is composed of this kind advocacy for murder, conquering , looting and rape:


WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Sura 33 (a promise to faithful Muslims of countries to conquer) "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).
(Muslims are quiet until they have the numbers to start demanding their way in the country they have invaded)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

Quran 4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.

(Quran 5:33): The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger is: EXECUTION OR CRUCIFIXION OR THE CUTTING OFF OF HANDS AND FEET FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDES or exile from the land.


(Quran 8:12): Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

76: 4): Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire.

"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.
(What does THAT tell you??)

A report form Freedom House about Saudi funded Mosques preaching terror in America:
http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/..._report/45.pdf
(Do you have ANY idea the hate that some American mosques are spreading in this country??)



If you who have spoken up in defense of Hussein O. and Islam would do a little research, you might see that this country is in trouble with radical Islam and is headed down the road to major, major problems such as Europe is facing today. Their individual cultures are in the process of being destroyed.
You can dig up the same sort of thing out of the old testament. If I judged every candidate based on their claims of being Christians I wouldn't be able to vote for any of them. And yes you can discriminate based on religion just as you can discriminate based on race. Was Hitler not a bigot because I'm pretty sure Judaism is a religion.
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Just for the record to counter you examples from the Koran.

"Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34)

"Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her as a covering." (1 Corinthians 11:13-15)

"But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)

"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched." (Mark 9:43)

"One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)

"Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)

"Slaves, obey your human masters in everything; don't work only while being watched, in order to please men, but work wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord." (Colossians 3:22)

"Slaves are to be submissive to their masters in everything, and to be well-pleasing, not talking back ." (Titus 2:9)

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. " (1 Peter 2:18)

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" (2 John 1:9-11).

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you." (2 Corinthians 6:14-17).

"And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die" (Deuteronomy 21:20-21).

"For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death" (Mark 7:10)

"And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death" (Exodus 21:15). "And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death (Exodus 21:17)."

"In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon. The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers, The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings, The rings, and nose jewels. The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins, The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails. And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty. Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy might in the war. And her gates shall lament and mourn: and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground" (Isaiah 3:17-26).

"And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague" (Numbers 11:32-33).

"The wrath of God came upon them, and slew the fattest of them, and smote down the chosen men of Israel" (Psalms 78:31).

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

"And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them" (2 Kings 2:23-24).

"And I will set my jealousy against thee, and they shall deal furiously with thee: they shall take away thy nose and thine ears; and thy remnant shall fall by the sword: they shall take thy sons and thy daughters; and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire. They shall also strip thee out of thy clothes, and take away thy fair jewels. Thus will I make thy lewdness to cease from thee, and thy whoredom brought from the land of Egypt: so that thou shalt not lift up thine eyes unto them, nor remember Egypt any more" (Ezekiel 23:25-27).

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire (Leviticus 21:9)."

"And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people." Leviticus 20:18.

"If a man finds a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days Deuteronomy 22:28-29)."

"But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? . . . And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. . . . Then fell [Sapphira] straightway at [Peter's] feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband." Acts 5:1-10.

I could go on and on.
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"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.
(What does THAT tell you??)
So we have the Muslim version of Falwell, Robertson and Dobson. Wow...

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If you who have spoken up in defense of Hussein O.
This part right here shows that you have no intent on actually discussing the positions of Obama, but yet are here only to smear as a rabid partisan with an agenda. America already has too many people like you. We dont need more.

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and Islam would do a little research, you might see that this country is in trouble with radical Islam and is headed down the road to major, major problems such as Europe is facing today. Their individual cultures are in the process of being destroyed.
Uh huh.. because all of these rights Americans have lost in the name of "fighting terrorism" are the direct result of Muslims thousands of miles away and not the incompetant fools residing on Pennsylvania Avenue.
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But the thing is, boys, Christainity has progressed into a civilized, modern entity.
Islam is still wallowing in 6th centruy barbarism and mentality and trying to drag us all back with them.
Shall I educate you about Sharia law? Stonning, anyone? How about honor killing? How about thieves getting a limb whacked off? This goes in on, you know.

Speaking of your boy, Hussein, he really put his foot in it. He's saying about the infamous photo (where he disrespected the flag), that his grandfather taught him to pledge the allegiance when he was two years old.
What a blatant lie! When he was around that age, he was thousands of miles away with his MUSLIM grandfather. (whom, I might add, had a history of violence) A MUSLIM man who has been taught by his religion to hate Christians, Jews and America in general isn't about to teach little Hussein to do the pledge. That's hilarious.
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But the thing is, boys, Christainity has progressed into a civilized, modern entity.
Islam is still wallowing in 6th centruy barbarism and mentality and trying to drag us all back with them.
According to who? The media whose job it is to find anything controversial to sell and profit from?

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Shall I educate you about Sharia law? Stonning, anyone? How about honor killing? How about thieves getting a limb whacked off? This goes in on, you know.
None of which has made any progress here.

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Speaking of your boy, Hussein, he really put his foot in it.
Hussein? Sorry, I dont know of anybody with the last name of Hussein other than Saddam.

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He's saying about the infamous photo (where he disrespected the flag), that his grandfather taught him to pledge the allegiance when he was two years old.
What a blatant lie!
Your meaningless opinion aside, it wasnt the Pledge. It was the national anthem that was playing. Stop being such a Freeper and get lost. Like the others that try and fail, you will not engage in smearing Obama without being embarrassed at every attempt. Now get lost.
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But the thing is, boys, Christainity has progressed into a civilized, modern entity.
Islam is still wallowing in 6th centruy barbarism and mentality and trying to drag us all back with them.
Shall I educate you about Sharia law? Stonning, anyone? How about honor killing? How about thieves getting a limb whacked off? This goes in on, you know.

Speaking of your boy, Hussein, he really put his foot in it. He's saying about the infamous photo (where he disrespected the flag), that his grandfather taught him to pledge the allegiance when he was two years old.
What a blatant lie! When he was around that age, he was thousands of miles away with his MUSLIM grandfather. (whom, I might add, had a history of violence) A MUSLIM man who has been taught by his religion to hate Christians, Jews and America in general isn't about to teach little Hussein to do the pledge. That's hilarious.
Actually Obama isn't who I'm planning on voting for. I just think he should be judged more than a religious background. Nice way to make assumptions before proceeding with a discussion.

Not all Muslims are stuck in barbarism. I live in a college town with many Muslim exchange students that are every bit as modern and civil and anybody else in this country and they are actually far less judgmental of their Christian neighbors than you seem to be of Muslims and certainly do not throw out such broad generalizations.

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The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) The most respected (by Muslims) and powerful Islam advocate in the U.S

A brief history of CAIR:
CAIR was co-founded in 1994 by Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad, and Omar Ahmad, all of whom had close ties to the Islamic Association for Palestine,
CAIR currently claims 30 affiliates in the United States and one branch in Canada. It is partially funded by the Saudi Wahhabi establishment.
In 2003 Hooper, one of the founders, stated that if Muslims become a majority in the United States, they will seek to REPLACE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WITH SHARIA LAW. One of the other founders. Omar Ahmad, stated in July 1998: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
Onetime CAIR fundraiser Rabih Haddad was arrested on terrorism-related charges and deported from the United States. Many CAIR officials have been arrested on terrorist charges.

SHARIA LAW highpoints: (This is practiced in Islam countries-especially Saudi)
Cutting off thieves` hands, as well as the cutting off a hand and a leg on alternate sides, as is written in the Koran.
Stoning to death of women for adultry
Honor killing of a woman who has 'brought shame to the Muslim family".
50 lashes of the whip for drunkeness, homosexual activies
women are downgraded to third class citizens.
(you know it amazes me how radical left wingers can be so appologetic for Islam and its laws. If America were brought under Sharia law, gays, radicals, feminists, etc would be the first to have their heads roll)

This whole concept is barbaric and simply INSANE. (again, I am NOT condemning all Muslims)


Speaking of religion, perhaps one of the differentiating factors is that when Christians perform acts of hate and terrorism they are going against the teachings of Christ (and are widely condemned for doing so); whereas when Islamic terrorists perform similar acts, they are in harmony with the teachings of Muhammad, and are praised as martyrs.

But this is not an issue of religion, it is a conflict of ideologies. Whether one is Jewish or Christian, agnostic or atheist; Judeo-Christian civilization has given the world numerous ideas of human rights that are directly challanged by Islam in general, and jihadists in particular: freedom of conscience, the equality of dignity of men and women, equality of rights before the law for all, and more. Islamic Sharia offers a radically different model of society, than that which we profess to value. We (in the West) need to recognize this and stand up for our own civilization. If, because of our longing for political correctness, or fear of being branded 'Islamophobe', fail to defend our own civilization, we probably don't deserve to keep it.

Christians and Jews are being ridiculed and made fun of. Islam, assisted by radical left wingers and the ACLU, is slowly and systematically wiping away every trace of Christianity because it offends them. God offends them. Jesus offends them- and Jesus' birthday offends them. They won't stop until Christmas, Easter and everything connected with Christianity is abolished. And, no, I am not a 'Jesus nut'. I am just a young American woman who has done a lot of research about Islam and what is happening to our country. I DO believe that as a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation
Meanwhile, we as taxpayers are footing the bills for foot-washing basins for the Muslims, special 'prayer rooms', breaks from work for Muslim prayers, taxpayers support a Muslim school in Brooklyn, Muslim halal food is served in schools, in community swimming pools Muslim women swim in hijabs. Gyms and health clubs are designating gender separate work-out facilities, etc.

We humbly, hat in hand, accept Muslim taxi drivers who refuse us a ride because we might have had a drink and because maybe we are blind and have a guide dog with us.
(Do you know they think dogs are 'unclean'? Did you know there has been a rash of dog mutilations in neighborhoods where Muslims have moved in?)
We are accepting the teaching of Islam in our schools because we don't want to offend them. And the list goes on.
We have bent over backwards to separate church from state- just as our forefathers decreed, but what about Islam? We are allowing this religion to permeate into everything.
Why? Are we that affraid of them?
Never in the country's history has such a minority weilded such influence, outright threat, and forced control at every level.

The President of the U.S. caters to Muslims by holding religious dinners at the Whitehouse, at taxpayer expense while sanctioning Muslim prayer service every friday in the capitol building. Worse. He capitulates and says "We all worship the same God" and "Terrorists do not represent Islam". Known Muslim murderers and despots are given university forums as if they're point-of-view was really legitimate. Our Secretary of State is sent to 'dialogue' with them. They tease and laugh at her and at us!

What are we to think, as the "PC" War on drones onward?
Is this to circumvent the threat of thousands of Shahid Suicide-Murderers ALREADY on our soil? When will the first one go off? What will be the response of those elected and appointed to protect the citizenry? You have already seen the FBI response to numerous cases of 'sudden jihad' such as the mall killer, the beltway snipers, etc.

Islamic organizations are carefully orchestrating 'debates', lawsuits, marches, large propaganda campaigns all across the nation while 72 known Islamist terror groups are firmly in place and positioned. Islamic schools and mosques are being built in record numbers across the nation with Saudi oil money being funneled into the US legally. Islam is on the march. The submission of the great country of the United States to Islam has begun just as planned and stated by Islamists. Just as we were warned by Osama bin Laden, Islam is using Americas own laws and freedoms to destroy us.
And the American people had better wake up and realize this before it's too late.

What can you and I do? Write your congressman.
Protest. Let your voice be heard. Vote out of office those who are soft on radical Islam.

If you- or any of you- would like to learn more please visit
Faith Freedom International. [www.faithfreedom.org] Faith Freedom International is a grassroots movement of ex-Muslims. Its goals are to unmask Islam and show that it is an imperialistic ideology akin to Nazism but disguised as religion.
They strive for the unity of Mankind through the elimination of Islam, the most insidious doctrine of hate. Islam can't be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It can't be molded, but it can be smashed. It is rigid but brittle. That is why Muslims do not tolerate criticism of it. To eradicate Islam, all we have to do is tell the truth. It's that simple. Truth about Islam is out. It's all here in this site. Now it is up to you to spread it. With truth, the decent Muslims will leave Islam and with each Muslim that leaves, we gain a new soldier in our fight against terrorism. They are growing exponentially. The days of radical Islm can numbered and world peace is possible. We might have to go through very tough times meanwhile. The storm is approaching.


More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Crisis Magazine

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. Lynching Statistics by Year
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. CAIN: Violence - Annual Deaths in Northern Ireland, by 'Status' of Person Killed, August 1969 to December 1995
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. CAIN: Violence - Annual Deaths in Northern Ireland, by 'Status' of Person Killed, August 1969 to December 1995



MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE KORAN IS THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD as dictated to Mohammed.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. 80- 90 percent of the Koran is composed of this kind advocacy for murder, conquering , looting and rape:


WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Sura 33 (a promise to faithful Muslims of countries to conquer) "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).
(Muslims are quiet until they have the numbers to start demanding their way in the country they have invaded)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.


"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.




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By Brigitte Gabriel
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, February 20, 2006

Below are excerpts from Brigitte Gabriel's (Middle Eastern Scholar) speech delivered at the Intelligence Summit in Washington DC, Saturday February 18, 2006].

As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves "Why do they hate us?" The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: INFIDELS."

We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.

Tolerating evil is a crime. APPEASING MURDERERS DOESN'T BY PROTECTION. It earns one disrespect and loathing in the enemy's eyes. Yet apathy is the weapon by which the West is committing suicide. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS FORMS THE SHACKES AROUND OUR ANKELS, BY WHICH ISLAMISTS ARE LEADING US TO OUR DEMISE. (Invigorated by new oil wealth) Islam is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared "Intifada" on the West.
The United States has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the Middle East ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on America and its people.
If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, America’s learning curve since the Iran hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it will be to stand erect.
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To even THINK about putting into the white house a man with Barack Hussein's Islamic background is sheer INSANITY.
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The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) The most respected (by Muslims) and powerful Islam advocate in the U.S

A brief history of CAIR:
CAIR was co-founded in 1994 by Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad, and Omar Ahmad, all of whom had close ties to the Islamic Association for Palestine,
CAIR currently claims 30 affiliates in the United States and one branch in Canada. It is partially funded by the Saudi Wahhabi establishment.
In 2003 Hooper, one of the founders, stated that if Muslims become a majority in the United States, they will seek to REPLACE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WITH SHARIA LAW. One of the other founders. Omar Ahmad, stated in July 1998: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
Onetime CAIR fundraiser Rabih Haddad was arrested on terrorism-related charges and deported from the United States. Many CAIR officials have been arrested on terrorist charges.

SHARIA LAW highpoints: (This is practiced in Islam countries-especially Saudi)
Cutting off thieves` hands, as well as the cutting off a hand and a leg on alternate sides, as is written in the Koran.
Stoning to death of women for adultry
Honor killing of a woman who has 'brought shame to the Muslim family".
50 lashes of the whip for drunkeness, homosexual activies
women are downgraded to third class citizens.
(you know it amazes me how radical left wingers can be so appologetic for Islam and its laws. If America were brought under Sharia law, gays, radicals, feminists, etc would be the first to have their heads roll)

This whole concept is barbaric and simply INSANE. (again, I am NOT condemning all Muslims)


Speaking of religion, perhaps one of the differentiating factors is that when Christians perform acts of hate and terrorism they are going against the teachings of Christ (and are widely condemned for doing so); whereas when Islamic terrorists perform similar acts, they are in harmony with the teachings of Muhammad, and are praised as martyrs.

But this is not an issue of religion, it is a conflict of ideologies. Whether one is Jewish or Christian, agnostic or atheist; Judeo-Christian civilization has given the world numerous ideas of human rights that are directly challanged by Islam in general, and jihadists in particular: freedom of conscience, the equality of dignity of men and women, equality of rights before the law for all, and more. Islamic Sharia offers a radically different model of society, than that which we profess to value. We (in the West) need to recognize this and stand up for our own civilization. If, because of our longing for political correctness, or fear of being branded 'Islamophobe', fail to defend our own civilization, we probably don't deserve to keep it.

Christians and Jews are being ridiculed and made fun of. Islam, assisted by radical left wingers and the ACLU, is slowly and systematically wiping away every trace of Christianity because it offends them. God offends them. Jesus offends them- and Jesus' birthday offends them. They won't stop until Christmas, Easter and everything connected with Christianity is abolished. And, no, I am not a 'Jesus nut'. I am just a young American woman who has done a lot of research about Islam and what is happening to our country. I DO believe that as a culture, we lose our way when we abandon our Judeo-Christian heritage and foundation
Meanwhile, we as taxpayers are footing the bills for foot-washing basins for the Muslims, special 'prayer rooms', breaks from work for Muslim prayers, taxpayers support a Muslim school in Brooklyn, Muslim halal food is served in schools, in community swimming pools Muslim women swim in hijabs. Gyms and health clubs are designating gender separate work-out facilities, etc.

We humbly, hat in hand, accept Muslim taxi drivers who refuse us a ride because we might have had a drink and because maybe we are blind and have a guide dog with us.
(Do you know they think dogs are 'unclean'? Did you know there has been a rash of dog mutilations in neighborhoods where Muslims have moved in?)
We are accepting the teaching of Islam in our schools because we don't want to offend them. And the list goes on.
We have bent over backwards to separate church from state- just as our forefathers decreed, but what about Islam? We are allowing this religion to permeate into everything.
Why? Are we that affraid of them?
Never in the country's history has such a minority weilded such influence, outright threat, and forced control at every level.

The President of the U.S. caters to Muslims by holding religious dinners at the Whitehouse, at taxpayer expense while sanctioning Muslim prayer service every friday in the capitol building. Worse. He capitulates and says "We all worship the same God" and "Terrorists do not represent Islam". Known Muslim murderers and despots are given university forums as if they're point-of-view was really legitimate. Our Secretary of State is sent to 'dialogue' with them. They tease and laugh at her and at us!

What are we to think, as the "PC" War on drones onward?
Is this to circumvent the threat of thousands of Shahid Suicide-Murderers ALREADY on our soil? When will the first one go off? What will be the response of those elected and appointed to protect the citizenry? You have already seen the FBI response to numerous cases of 'sudden jihad' such as the mall killer, the beltway snipers, etc.

Islamic organizations are carefully orchestrating 'debates', lawsuits, marches, large propaganda campaigns all across the nation while 72 known Islamist terror groups are firmly in place and positioned. Islamic schools and mosques are being built in record numbers across the nation with Saudi oil money being funneled into the US legally. Islam is on the march. The submission of the great country of the United States to Islam has begun just as planned and stated by Islamists. Just as we were warned by Osama bin Laden, Islam is using Americas own laws and freedoms to destroy us.
And the American people had better wake up and realize this before it's too late.

What can you and I do? Write your congressman.
Protest. Let your voice be heard. Vote out of office those who are soft on radical Islam.

If you- or any of you- would like to learn more please visit
Faith Freedom International. [www.faithfreedom.org] Faith Freedom International is a grassroots movement of ex-Muslims. Its goals are to unmask Islam and show that it is an imperialistic ideology akin to Nazism but disguised as religion.
They strive for the unity of Mankind through the elimination of Islam, the most insidious doctrine of hate. Islam can't be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It can't be molded, but it can be smashed. It is rigid but brittle. That is why Muslims do not tolerate criticism of it. To eradicate Islam, all we have to do is tell the truth. It's that simple. Truth about Islam is out. It's all here in this site. Now it is up to you to spread it. With truth, the decent Muslims will leave Islam and with each Muslim that leaves, we gain a new soldier in our fight against terrorism. They are growing exponentially. The days of radical Islm can numbered and world peace is possible. We might have to go through very tough times meanwhile. The storm is approaching.


More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Crisis Magazine

Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. Lynching Statistics by Year
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. CAIN: Violence - Annual Deaths in Northern Ireland, by 'Status' of Person Killed, August 1969 to December 1995
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. CAIN: Violence - Annual Deaths in Northern Ireland, by 'Status' of Person Killed, August 1969 to December 1995



MUSLIMS BELIEVE THE KORAN IS THE PERFECT WORD OF GOD as dictated to Mohammed.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. 80- 90 percent of the Koran is composed of this kind advocacy for murder, conquering , looting and rape:


WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Sura 33 (a promise to faithful Muslims of countries to conquer) "And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden" (33.27) .

"Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength" (86.17).
(Muslims are quiet until they have the numbers to start demanding their way in the country they have invaded)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 3:28 Don't have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.


"AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

"ISLAM ISN'T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else." OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.




YouTube - England - Islam Victory in Europe - Muslims


YouTube - Islamification of Britain


WELCOME TO SWEDEN (Coming to USA unless we act)
YouTube - Welcome to Sweden



MUSLIMS DESECRATING FLAG AND CONDEMING AMERICA IN NYC:
YouTube - The Enemy Within NYC - Islamic Thinkers Society

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Because They Hate
By Brigitte Gabriel
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, February 20, 2006

Below are excerpts from Brigitte Gabriel's (Middle Eastern Scholar) speech delivered at the Intelligence Summit in Washington DC, Saturday February 18, 2006].

As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves "Why do they hate us?" The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: INFIDELS."

We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.

Tolerating evil is a crime. APPEASING MURDERERS DOESN'T BY PROTECTION. It earns one disrespect and loathing in the enemy's eyes. Yet apathy is the weapon by which the West is committing suicide. POLITICAL CORRECTNESS FORMS THE SHACKES AROUND OUR ANKELS, BY WHICH ISLAMISTS ARE LEADING US TO OUR DEMISE. (Invigorated by new oil wealth) Islam is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared "Intifada" on the West.
The United States has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the Middle East ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on America and its people.
If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, America’s learning curve since the Iran hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it will be to stand erect.
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To even THINK about putting into the white house a man with Barack Hussein's Islamic background is sheer INSANITY.
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Your cut and past skills are impressive. You are talking about a organization. I'm talking about Muslims. I know many personally and they do not generalize all Christians as a negative which puts them on a higher stance on you who obviously does paint a entire religion with a broad brush.
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The far left? Come on. Did you not notice the results of the '06 midterms, that the Democrats steamrolled Republicans with centrists?

Steamrolled....they won by 85,000 votes combined from 88 million combined.

Yeah..."Steamrolled."

What a margin.

And since Pelosi, Reid, and company have not completed a single item promised to get them the "steamroll," and have done nothing but front wave after wave of partisan name-calling, non-passable bills.....YOU might be the one concerned about 08.

As a conservative, 08 doesn't concern me. Hillary is unelectable short of a complete last-minute miracle and maybe not even then....and Obama is the same. He cannot be elected as either the P or VP in 08.
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Steamrolled....they won by 85,000 votes combined from 88 million combined.

Yeah..."Steamrolled."

What a margin.

And since Pelosi, Reid, and company have not completed a single item promised to get them the "steamroll," and have done nothing but front wave after wave of partisan name-calling, non-passable bills.....YOU might be the one concerned about 08.

As a conservative, 08 doesn't concern me. Hillary is unelectable short of a complete last-minute miracle and maybe not even then....and Obama is the same. He cannot be elected as either the P or VP in 08.

For the House
Cumulating the results nationwide, including the elections for nonvoting delegates from American Samoa, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin Islands, the total votes cast by party were: Democrats, 42,255,280 (52.52%); Republicans, 35,657,353 (44.32%); others, 2,542,040 (3.16%).
United States House of Representatives elections, 2006 - complete list - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the Senate races
it was 33,134,651 Democratic to 26,127,486 Republican
United States Senate elections, 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is Hillary looking electable now?
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The far left? Come on. Did you not notice the results of the '06 midterms, that the Democrats steamrolled Republicans with centrists?
Meanwhile, the '06 steamrolling has produced ZERO results.
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Your meaningless opinion aside, it wasnt the Pledge. It was the national anthem that was playing. Stop being such a Freeper and get lost. Like the others that try and fail, you will not engage in smearing Obama without being embarrassed at every attempt. Now get lost.
Are you interested in Obama as a politician? Why or why not?

What noteworthy accomplishments has he done? Legislation?
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The two are inseparable. You're the one who brought up religion.
No, Donkey wasn’t the one who brought up religion. It was you, in post #8.

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If you- or any of you- would like to learn more please visit Faith Freedom International. [www.faithfreedom.org] Faith Freedom International is a grassroots movement of ex-Muslims.
Ex-Muslims? But haven’t you been arguing that “By Islamic law, if you are BORN a Muslim, you ARE a Muslim. There can be no changing.”

Anyway, I think our little metalted will be in seventh heaven when he sees your posts.

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*scratches his head*

hmmmm....aye.

though i think the lass, Cyberella, thoughts be pretty much a bigoted point 'o view, i still think they be intresting...at least in one respect;

if mr. Obama wins the nomination for the democratic ticket, he's sure to be broadsided by this very line 'o thinkin'. i think many 'o our fellow americans be easily spooked by the thought 'o muslims.

from readin' the posts here on USPOL, i'd also wager me pirate gold that many 'o you have kinda a low opinion on how informed yer fellow americans be, in general....that they be easily led, and are a pretty easy bunch 'o folks to push buttons on.

if you get a bunch 'o telegenic folks stirrin' up the pot, the way the attractive lass cyberella be doin', i can sorta see some folks bein' easily swayed, so this back'n forth with her may be a kinda preview for what may be yet to come, should mr. obama emerge victorious.

in our hearts, many 'o us are still racists. if any of you folk had the choice 'o living in a condo with 40 black folk, or 40 white folk (without any further information, 'course), i can kinda guess where most of you (and me), would prefer to live. *meadhallpirate hangs his head in shame*

the lot 'o us be easy prey.

anyways, thems me thoughts!

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