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Old 02-06-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Barack Obama won a clear majority of the Super Tuesday states...

In the closest thing to a national primary we’ve ever seen, Barack Obama overcame double-digit leads by Senator Clinton in 8 of the largest 10 states to win a majority of states, defeating Senator Clinton 13-8 – with New Mexico still undeclared.

Obama also won Red States by a margin of more than two-to-one and leads Senator Clinton by nearly 50 delegates going into California.

Obama won his home state by 67 delegates (110-43; 153 total). Clinton won her home state by 52 delegates (142-90; 232 total). Among home states,
Obama won a net delegate margin of 15. That’s a good number – but even more impressive when you consider that New York had 79 more delegates up for grabs than Illinois.

Barack Obama performed especially well in those states he visited in recent weeks, including Minnesota, Utah, Idaho, Delaware, and Connecticut. He also won his home state by 67 delegates, 15 more than Senator Clinton won her home state of New York by. This is further proof that the more voters get to know Barack Obama and hear his message, the more they support him. And this bodes well for the contests coming in the next few weeks, where Obama will have more time to campaign aggressively in individual states.

Of the seven caucus states that were decided tonight, Obama won six (New Mexico is still undeclared). Caucuses test the enthusiasm of supporters in a way that primaries do not. And Obama’s near-sweep of these contests shows why he’s the candidate who’s generating the most excitement in this race and bringing new people into politics for the first time.

Barack Obama won the support of Americans of every race and gender in every region of the country. From Hillary Clinton’s backyard in Connecticut to Georgia, where Obama won nearly 40% of the white vote and eliminated the gender gap by winning 64% of the women’s vote, Obama demonstrated that he’s the one candidate who can transform the electoral map. That’s why he is the Democrat who’s most likely to win in November.
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Old 02-06-2008
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Barack Obama won a clear majority of the Super Tuesday states...

In the closest thing to a national primary we’ve ever seen, Barack Obama overcame double-digit leads by Senator Clinton in 8 of the largest 10 states to win a majority of states, defeating Senator Clinton 13-8 – with New Mexico still undeclared.

Obama also won Red States by a margin of more than two-to-one and leads Senator Clinton by nearly 50 delegates going into California.

Obama won his home state by 67 delegates (110-43; 153 total). Clinton won her home state by 52 delegates (142-90; 232 total). Among home states,
Obama won a net delegate margin of 15. That’s a good number – but even more impressive when you consider that New York had 79 more delegates up for grabs than Illinois.

Barack Obama performed especially well in those states he visited in recent weeks, including Minnesota, Utah, Idaho, Delaware, and Connecticut. He also won his home state by 67 delegates, 15 more than Senator Clinton won her home state of New York by. This is further proof that the more voters get to know Barack Obama and hear his message, the more they support him. And this bodes well for the contests coming in the next few weeks, where Obama will have more time to campaign aggressively in individual states.

Of the seven caucus states that were decided tonight, Obama won six (New Mexico is still undeclared). Caucuses test the enthusiasm of supporters in a way that primaries do not. And Obama’s near-sweep of these contests shows why he’s the candidate who’s generating the most excitement in this race and bringing new people into politics for the first time.

Barack Obama won the support of Americans of every race and gender in every region of the country. From Hillary Clinton’s backyard in Connecticut to Georgia, where Obama won nearly 40% of the white vote and eliminated the gender gap by winning 64% of the women’s vote, Obama demonstrated that he’s the one candidate who can transform the electoral map. That’s why he is the Democrat who’s most likely to win in November.
Cut the Obamaganda please. He did well, but let's look ahead to predict if it was well enough. You can win a lot of small states, but if you fail to grab the big ones, you'll loose.
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Do yourself a favor. Go to the following sites and educate yourselves:

Barack Obama

Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? - Examiner.com


‘Trapped between two worlds’ - Examiner.com
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Get to know the REAL Obama

Barack Obama

Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? - Examiner.com


‘Trapped between two worlds’ - Examiner.com
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What are you trying to prove?
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What are you trying to prove?
What are you trying to deny?
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What are you trying to deny?
So I'm trying to deny something? Please elaborate.
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So you suggest that people should embrace or find their prejudice?

Is Cyberella really a Brett Golden surrogate?... or perhaps just another login he uses?
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Cut the Obamaganda please. He did well, but let's look ahead to predict if it was well enough. You can win a lot of small states, but if you fail to grab the big ones, you'll loose.
You know, it is not "big or small states." It is how many delegate you have won. And Obama has won more delegates than Billary has. So I don't have to be this or that to prove a scientific truth.

Election Guide 2008 - Presidential Election - Politics

Here's the link. Do some math. Obama has more delegates, excluding superdelegates. That's a victory.
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Cyberella;1155517]Get to know... Obama.
Great pics... Do you have any more, Cyber-hater? I have downloaded the latter you sent as a wallpaper on my PC. Thanks.

From papers, to help you educate yourself, girl.

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Obama fared better in the 22-state crush than appeared possible a couple weeks ago, when he was coming off two straight losses in Nevada and New Hampshire and facing the prospect of having to compete in a slew of states against a better-known candidate with widespread establishment backing.

The Illinois senator won his home state, as well as Georgia, Alabama, Delaware, Minnesota, Connecticut, Kansas, North Dakota, Colorado, Alaska, Missouri, Utah and Idaho...
Obama has been endorsed by more celebrities.

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Time is on Barack Obama's side as his momentum grows
"Time is on Barack Obama's side as his momentum grows"

Coast to coast, everywhere you looked, the Democratic presidential candidates - and more importantly, the voters - shattered stereotypes and defied conventional wisdom.

Barack Obama, who was criticized by Hillary Clinton's supporters as the "black" candidate with little cross-racial appeal, won caucuses in some of the whitest states imaginable - Utah, Minnesota, Idaho, North Dakota and Kansas - along with largely black Georgia and Alabama.

...Assuming the candidates more or less split the main prize of California, the Democratic race today will be deadlocked. And that is bad news for Clinton.

In one remarkable month, Obama erased Clinton's double-digit lead in national polls, raised more than twice as much money - $32 million to $13.5 million - and destroyed any notion that the Democratic presidential nomination is Clinton's to lose.

Top members of Clinton's team have publicly acknowledged what Tuesday's results made clear: They cannot check Obama's momentum.

That's not just an admission that Clinton's inevitability strategy has failed: It also means Obama will have the time and money to march his formidable field organization - and advertising team - into the next battlegrounds, Louisiana, Nebraska and Washington State.

Most of all, the next week will bring more of the phenomenon that most bedevils Team Clinton: Obama's fast-growing, improbable status as a cool, iconic figure among students and artists.
Connecticut:

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Obama Takes Connecticut, Helped by Lamont Voters - New York Times
It was the young, the rich and voters who called Iraq the top issue who helped provide the margin of victory for Senator Barack Obama in Connecticut, according to surveys of voters leaving the polls, narrowly defeating Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in her own backyard.
Obama, the punch in the face:

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"Landslide" is too strong a term for what happened Tuesday night, when the Illinois senator took at least 12 states to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's eight.

But as campaign manager David Plouffe characterized the race against Clinton in his second -- happier -- briefing for reporters, "This is a day they clearly thought they could put a punctuation mark on this, and they're not going to do it..."
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Cyberella, can you please answer my question from post 451 and 457?

There should be some rule that prevents people from just dumping some propaganda here and then not engaging in discussion.

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Old 02-07-2008
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You know, it is not "big or small states." It is how many delegate you have won. And Obama has won more delegates than Billary has. So I don't have to be this or that to prove a scientific truth.

Election Guide 2008 - Presidential Election - Politics

Here's the link. Do some math. Obama has more delegates, excluding superdelegates. That's a victory.
On Super Tuesday, as far as decided yet, Clinton won 84 delegates more than Obama. That's a lot in a tight race. And why do you exclude superdelegates from your equation? It's a nice spin, but's its the same like claiming your loosing football team 'deserved' to win.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Obama, but I stay realistic.
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Forget television: Billary attacks Obama via snail mail. That's very of herself.

FactCheck.org: You've Got Mailers!
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Obama is more electable, Huffington Post predicts:

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Barack Obama Beating Hillary Clinton In Intrade Prediction Market - Politics on The Huffington Post
In the wake of Super Tuesday voting, the Obama campaign has recieved a bump from the Intrade prediction markets.

For the first time since the day before the New Hampshire primary, Sen. Barack Obama leads Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Intrade Prediction Market, a political futures trading exchange. On February 6, the Illinois Democrat closed the day priced at levels that give him a 53.7% chance of winning the nomination. His counterpart, in contrast, closed out with a 47% chance. Yesterday, Clinton's probability hovered in the low 60s.

Intrade markets, for those unfamiliar, are aggregations of public perceptions. They tell you not whether Obama or Clinton is more electable, but whether or not people think they are electable. And while a reliance on collective wisdom can often prove wrong (Obama, after all, was predicted on Intrade to win the New Hampshire primary), oftentimes it is right. In 2006, Intrade markets foretold every individual Senate race result, though its traders predicted the GOP would keep the Senate.
Below is the Intrade chart showing how the Democratic candidates' perceived electability has fluctuated over the last year. It's interesting to note that Al Gore's electability remains stronger than John Edwards', even though he never declared his candidacy.
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What's really frightening; this stranger comes out of nowhere. He is articulate and charismatic. He promises great things for America..'change'- without specifying what. The American public hang on every word. They follow in droves. They do not question.
Anyone who does dare to question is shouted down with screams of 'racist' and 'bigot'.
We know that so many of his supporters and backers are black hate groups/Muslim activists such as Nation of Islam, The United Trinity Church of Christ, and the New Black Panthers Party and people such as billionare anti-Jewish, pro-Islam Louis Farrakhan, Tony Rezko and George Soros..yet we still do not question and the media has a blackout on all this. Very frightening.
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