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Old 02-25-2008
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WHat has this got to do with the discussion?
It was a point of view concerning your question of my question regarding religiosity in federal elections.
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Old 02-25-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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I FOUND THE PIC ON THE NET LAST NIGHT BEFORE IT BROKE NATIONALLY.
DRUDGE HAS IT THIS MORNING..CHECK IT OUT.
But just precisely what does it prove? My understanding is that some tribal leader gave it to Obama and he graciously put it on.
Are you saying he is now some kind of Muslim fanatic because he wore the thing?

Just what does this photo mean to you?
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Old 02-26-2008
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]My photo of Obama is NOT photo-shopped. It's a photo of Hussein Obama in Muslim garb.
It's breaking on the news today. Hillary is exposing him via the photo.
This will be big...and possibly the beginning of the end for muzzie Obama
As usual, Cyber-hater-and-repeater, you are wrong.

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Re-Emerging, Dodd Joins Team Obama
Senator Expected To Endorse Ex-Rival, Campaign In Ohio

February 26, 2008

After a prolonged silence through most of the primary season, Sen. Christopher J. Dodd is rejoining the presidential race on somebody else's team — Sen. Barack Obama's.

The Connecticut senator, whose own presidential campaign failed to draw enough attention to propel him past the first contest in Iowa, is expected to announce his endorsement of Obama this morning, according to a Democratic official close to Dodd. He'll then campaign with Obama in Ohio.
Stop repeating yourself. Your anti-Obama rhetoric stinks anymore. Don't sell yourself so cheap. You will need yourself in the upcoming days.
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Old 02-26-2008
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This excerpt from a news report re Hillary:

"Clinton also lamented being outspent by Obama in several early voting states, despite burning through nearly "$130 million of her own".

She must be into deep pockets !
Poor old woman.
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Old 02-26-2008
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I FOUND THE PIC ON THE NET LAST NIGHT BEFORE IT BROKE NATIONALLY.
DRUDGE HAS IT THIS MORNING..CHECK IT OUT.
Our cat has finally caught a mouse. Congrats!
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Old 02-26-2008
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But just precisely what does it prove? My understanding is that some tribal leader gave it to Obama and he graciously put it on.
Are you saying he is now some kind of Muslim fanatic because he wore the thing?

Just what does this photo mean to you?
Agreed. If you search, you could easily find Bush wear tons of different clothes in different countries.

Billary wore a headscarf when she was first lady during their visit to a mosque in Turkey.

The picture shows Obama's ability to relate to the culture of the others, a quality which current administration lack.
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Old 02-26-2008
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Agreed. If you search, you could easily find Bush wear tons of different clothes in different countries.

Billary wore a headscarf when she was first lady during their visit to a mosque in Turkey.

The picture shows Obama's ability to relate to the culture of the others, a quality which current administration lack.
That is not the way this will be used.

You can be certain that this photo will be published again and again, over and over. Hillary Clinton started it, and if Obama is the nominee, some members of the right will pick it up and take off down the field.

There will be no qualifying description of a Somali outfit, or any thoughtful discussion. The photo will be used to create the obvious comparison with the clothes of bin Laden.

Is this fair? Obviously not. Is it outrageous? Certainly. But amused chortles of contempt will not change the fact that it will become as well known as Dukakis in the tank or Muskie crying in the snow.
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I think the nomination process is doing its job. Rather than "rubber stamp" a person to be the nominee, the primaries have brought out the essential characteristics of each candidate.

For Clinton, unfortunately, the we have an image of a moody, viscious, two-faced control-freak who will literally "say and do anything to get elected."

In Obama, we have seen a deliberate, inspirational, productive, come-from-behind, positive, uplifting, and hopeful visionary who believes in us, even more than he believes in himself.

The contrast is stark! The "first woman president" will have to wait. Perhaps Obama can provide us with the "first woman VP" (not HRC). The worrisome part is that we may have to deal with Clinton again in 2012! This year, though, I doubt if even Bill could beat Obama.

However, it is still to early to "count our chickens."
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`...In Obama, we have seen a deliberate, inspirational, productive, come-from-behind, positive, uplifting, and hopeful visionary who believes in us, even more than he believes in himself.

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Perhaps.

Inspiration and positive thinking are nice and can be vital at times, but they are no substitute for poor policy - or no policy at all.

There is a great deal of sugar syrup in Obama's campaign and very little meat at this point. In a national election, he will have to sell a lot more than sentimental syrup.
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Here are famous women wearing headscarf. Can you discern them? Are they all Muslim?




Was the Congress invaded by the Muslim?


Hillary "Che" Clinton?


Is Laura Bush a Muslim? What if she is a Muslim? does that hurt you so much?


CYBER-HATER, FIND SOMETHING AMUSING TO SATISFY YOURSELF. THERE'S NOTHING FOR YOU TO FEED ON HERE IN OBAMA THREAD. YOU ARE DONE AND OUTDATED.

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For those who are still interested, the story of that Barack picture:

GEESKA AFRIKA MAGAZINE AND HAN- geeskaafrika.com


THE AMERICAN ARMY WAS THERE, ALSO, SUPPORTING POOR, DISPLACED PEOPLE. THIS IS TRULY AMERICAN. THANK YOU SENATOR OBAMA.

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Djibouti (HAN) September 1, 2006 - Sen. Barack Obama, visited a sprawling tent camp in eastern Ethiopia on Thursday for people displaced by devastating floods earlier this month, saying the U.S. military will continue to help the region.

U.S. Navy personnel began relief operations two weeks ago in the eastern town of Dire Dawa, where the first flash floods ripped through the town on Aug. 6. In eastern, southern and northeastern Ethiopia, flooding caused by the heavy rains has killed more than 600 people and displaced tens of thousands of people, according to U.N. officials.

"The next order of business is to make sure these families are taken care of," said Obama, who is on a five-country tour of Africa. "But this shows what kind of role the U.S. military can play."

U.S. naval engineers, who are part of the anti-terror Combined Joint Task Force Horn of Africa based in neighboring Djibouti, set up 60 enormous canvas tents that are housing 2,700 people. The tents are furnished with straw mats and basic necessities.

Sanitation facilities were built with the help of the Ethiopian Red Cross. Already, 150 people have died of waterborne diseases and 12,000 have been infected, according to relief organizations.

"This is a wonderful thing that the U.S. military has done," said Mohammed Noor, who is living in the tent city. "We lost everything by the waters that washed away our home." Dire Dawa is 310 miles east of Addis Ababa. LES NEUHAUS.
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Old 02-26-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

I think you may need to take a breath..no here thinks it a big deal...you are keeping it alive dude......

BUT...theres always this, from Mr Good Judgement ...


Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama


British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.

The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Mr Obama says he never used Mrs Rezko's still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.

Mrs Rezko, whose husband was widely known to be under investigation at the time, went on to sell a 10-foot strip of her property to Mr Obama seven months later so he could enjoy a bigger garden.

Mr Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a “boneheaded mistake”.

Mrs Rezko’s purchase and sale of the land to Mr Obama raises many unanswered questions.

It is unclear how Mrs Rezko could have afforded the downpayment of $125,000 and a $500,000 mortgage for the original $625,000 purchase of the garden plot at 5050 South Greenwood Ave.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama - Times Online
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Agreed. If you search, you could easily find Bush wear tons of different clothes in different countries.

Billary wore a headscarf when she was first lady during their visit to a mosque in Turkey.

The picture shows Obama's ability to relate to the culture of the others, a quality which current administration lack.

Kinda contradicting yourself in the same post.
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hills on a rant and shes gonna crash........
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Obama's stance on foreign policy showed his good judgement and strong intuition many times in his career. His early life in Hawaii and Indonesia as well as later travels to to his father's homeland in Kenya make me see Senator Obama as someone understands the world and the United State's role in it.
bull!@#$. The US's proper role in the world is to stop trying to police it.

And Obama is not likely to understand that anymore than the past 10 or Presidents the US has had.

True, Obama is not a moron like the current Pres. But his foreign policy won't be all that different. He'll keep US troops in Iraq and maintain the interests of the MIC and the staus quo of US intervention and biased military foreign aid abroad.

Obama, like bush, is more or less a Neocon.

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Just think how differently the world will see the US the moment Obama takes the oath of office. I think the whole country will be bursting with pride when we see the reaction that President Barack Obama will get on his first international travels. Aren't you tired of wincing with embarrassment every time our current President has a foreign trip?
The world will recognize Obama as an educated man, as opposed to bush, but so what? They won't be cheering for the next Neocon.

In fact, the US' military enemies, i. e. Iran, may actually prefer someone more like bush to Obama, because a moron Pres--in spite of his ideology--can be easily manipulated. Iran had no problem duping bush and exploiting his current political situation to its advantage.

With Obama, that won't be as easy
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