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Old 02-26-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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The picture shows Obama's ability to relate to the culture of the others, a quality which current administration lack.
I was asking cyberella to see just what about it made him/her so upset that it required 22-point type.

But I appreciate your answer. Not as entertaining as I was sure cyberella's would have been, but a much better response in any event.
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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He might be thinking of telling Israel to take a hike if they don't shape up and start flying right and remove themselves from Palestine and return the Palestinian lands to their rightful owners.
Wouldn't it be simpler to recognize another state in historic Palestine? A, recognized, sovereign state would actually have more of a legal basis for using the rule of law to establish its boundaries.

Another solution, might be for those two factions to have a convention on possible unification into one state.
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Old 02-26-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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In fact, the US' military enemies, i. e. Iran, may actually prefer someone more like bush to Obama, because a moron Pres--in spite of his ideology--can be easily manipulated. Iran had no problem duping bush and exploiting his current political situation to its advantage. (
Why do you believe Iran is a military enemy of the US?

I don't think we would have had the issues with the Middle East, that we currently have, with more consistent policy in that region. Here is a good example of where it would be better for the UN to take more steps to ensure the domestic tranquility of the region, or at least, create a standing committee on a hypothetical Middle East Union. A union, in that region would make more sense there, because of the amount of rivalry in that region.
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Old 02-26-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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I think you may need to take a breath..no here thinks it a big deal...you are keeping it alive dude......

BUT...theres always this, from Mr Good Judgement ...


Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama


British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.

The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Mr Obama says he never used Mrs Rezko's still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.

Mrs Rezko, whose husband was widely known to be under investigation at the time, went on to sell a 10-foot strip of her property to Mr Obama seven months later so he could enjoy a bigger garden.

Mr Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a “boneheaded mistake”.

Mrs Rezko’s purchase and sale of the land to Mr Obama raises many unanswered questions.

It is unclear how Mrs Rezko could have afforded the downpayment of $125,000 and a $500,000 mortgage for the original $625,000 purchase of the garden plot at 5050 South Greenwood Ave.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama - Times Online
Stop that! Your mudding the waters, let the Obama groupies hold to their dellusions.
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Why do you believe Iran is a military enemy of the US?

I don't think we would have had the issues with the Middle East, that we currently have, with more consistent policy in that region. Here is a good example of where it would be better for the UN to take more steps to ensure the domestic tranquility of the region, or at least, create a standing committee on a hypothetical Middle East Union. A union, in that region would make more sense there, because of the amount of rivalry in that region.
Hahahahahahaha The UN is a joke they have failed at everything they have ever attempted.
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Old 02-26-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Here's the thing about stories, they get old, if the Obama-Rezko connection stories didn't take the first time around, they aren't going to pick up any traction when they get rehashed, unless there's something new.

Obama has the message that people want to hear, why do you think he draws huge crowds, and millions of contributors.

In the Great Depression, FDR's theme song was "Happy Days are here again", it worked.

Hillary Clintons got more facts and figures in her stump speech, but not enough of what people really want, and McCain is telling people what they don't want to hear.

People want change, every candidate claims to be the agent of change, but Obama rings true to more people.
What's going to happen between now and November to change that equation?
Iraq will still be a disaster, the economy will still be reeling and the alternative to Obama will be the Old Geezer, who wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years, and will only look older than the pyramids in the debates.

And with all this desire for change, the big selling point for McCain is that he can use the veto to block the Congress and prevent change.
And McCain will have the endorsement of a President with 19% approval ratings, how do handicap that race?
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Hahahahahahaha The UN is a joke they have failed at everything they have ever attempted.
I don't think it is any worse than any other public sector.
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How people can get away with such lies like "the UN is a joke they have failed at everything they have ever attempted" is hilarious. The amount of ignorance about world affairs that takes boggles the mind.
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

Many posters don't feel the need to use logic or reason when discussing political issues.
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Old 02-26-2008
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How people can get away with such lies like "the UN is a joke they have failed at everything they have ever attempted" is hilarious. The amount of ignorance about world affairs that takes boggles the mind.

The United Nations is a joke. They have done nothing about Darfur, or any other genocide situations, in past or present times. If they do something, it's always extremely late, or they sit back & let a super power, like the U.S handle the situation. The U.N is a waste of time & tax-payer dollars.

Maybe you should list us some accomplishments of the United Nations, because I sure can't think of any.
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The Real Barack Obama

Go here for a well thought out piece on "The Real Barack Obama".

Liberty For All » Blog Archive » The real Barack Obama
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Old 02-27-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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How people can get away with such lies like "the UN is a joke they have failed at everything they have ever attempted" is hilarious. The amount of ignorance about world affairs that takes boggles the mind.
The UN is a joke, I don't see you offering any evidence to the contrary. Name one accomplishment of the UN?

All one has to do is look at the mess in Africa where the UN has been given the lead to try and solve those problems. Just do a little research and you will find corruption, 'Kofi Anan's son ring any bells'? The UN's oil for food program, etc, etc.?

In Africa where AIDs and child molestation are at epidemic preportions you will find where some of this is being done by those Blue Helmeted UN troops.
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Old 02-27-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

More thoughts on Obama:

The suggestion that Obama is some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate has been a constant slur against the US Democratic presidential candidate. Given the Muslim connection is considered by some to be political poison, it’s understandable why he and his supporters have gone to such lengths to clarify that he’s never prayed in a mosque, been a Muslim, etc.

However, let’s consider some of the information that has emerged so far:

1. His father, named Hussein, was a Kenyan Muslim who, according to Obama, lived in a village with a lot of other Muslims but apparently didn’t practice himself. He and his mother (a Hawaiian atheist) chose the name Barack (a derivative of the Arabic word baraka or blessing) for their son.

2. After his mother divorced his Muslim Kenyan father, she married a Muslim Indonesian. Obama attended a Catholic school in Indonesia and, according to official school records, his religion was listed as ‘Muslim’. He might have just as easily been enrolled as a Christian but his parents chose to advise the Catholic school that their son was a Muslim.

3. Childhood friends are reported as saying that they remember the young Obama praying in the mosque and occasionally attending jummah (Friday) congregational prayers.

So, is he a Muslim or is he a Christian? I think that he is whatever he needs to be at the time. So, what separates him from every other politician who will say whatever the people want to hear? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see through this guy, but I guess some people are more gullible than others.
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Old 02-27-2008
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He converted to Christianity in his twenties. Are you calling him and everyone who attends church with him weekly a liar? Are you seriously going to talk about second hand accounts of what he might have done as a child in terms of religion? How is this relevant to his candidacy at all?
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Old 02-27-2008
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What is this Islamophobia? I am asking this not because Barack is a Muslim, but because I cannot comprehend the demonization of one of the world's greatest religions.

What happened to the nice rumors that America is a free, tolerant, multi-cultural country?

Haven't we elected a Protestant president when Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma federal building?

Would you like our country be enclosed behind thick bars as an ultra-white, fundamentalst Christian country?

Are we afraid of our own citizens when he dreams for something bigger than just being a small company owner?

Shame on us if we are such degraded.
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