Honestly, have you ever believed that Bush is an America-lover?

When did Patriotism become letting your young people die in a war based on lies? Is this less unpatriotic than what that church leader says?

And, has America solved all her racial problems? Aren't we still a slightly racist nation?

While I may not agree with the manner in which Rev. Wright expressed his perception of the injustice and wrongdoing of this country, I have to acknowledge some truth in what he said.

Racism hasn't magically disappeared from this country. Barack's experience of life is vastly different from HRC's experience of life because of race. That's a fact.

George W. Bush has the blood of innocent people on his hands as do other leaders of this country, past and present. That's why people who would do us harm have increased in number, not decreased.

This latest attack on Barack and his church, of all places, seems like an opportunity to talk about the "elephant(s) in the room" and to start trying to heal some of these wounds.

After witnessing the inclusive nature of the Obama Campaign and viewing the Indiana Town Hall yesterday, I am even more convinced that Barack is the person who can help us make further progress towards reconciliation and bridge building. Not only in this country but around the world.

Obama is whatever he needs to be at the time. Besides, I don't know too many people who would call this preacher or his church Christian. You are not a Christian because you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian because Christ lives in you and His nature is evident in your life.

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Then Obama is what you believe him is? That's an awfull sign of racism and bigotry.

Some of us "claim" to be Obama supporters. The issue with the pastor has some of us uncomfortable. And I for one, am glad. This needs to be discussed. There is a generational gap at play that people don't understand.

Do you realize that it was just 50 years and for some communities 40 years ago that people of color were able to hope to be somebody, someday? Most of you have no idea as to what our parents and grandparents endured. Wright was apart of that. Having dogs sicked on you, afraid that you or your children might be hung or worse hunting down like an animal, seperate water fountains, seperate bathrooms, walking on opposite sides of the streets, going to different schools all because you were a different color.

We (Americans) are the fruit of that battle. Today more and more people see that as the past but for those that still remember or have wounds (physical and mental), its harder to deal with.

Barack is a part of the new movement. That we are all Americans, one America.

I am sure some of us have people they know who have done or said things that we didn't agree with but you remain friends or family because that's not who you are. They don't define you in any way. That is what makes us individuals, independent thinkers.

We will be witnessing history today. And no matter what is said, some people will not agree. And that's fine. This is America. We can't please everybody all the time. But those of us who truly believe that change is coming, I am extremely grateful that he has put it upon himself to carry the load.

So today, Mr. Obama, I pray that the Lord will continue to wrap you in the arms of his love. May he give you strength, mercy and peace today and forward. This I ask in God's name, Amen.

No. A Christian is someone who believes in the Christian doctrine or who identifies themselves as such. You can't claim that someone is not a Christian because you don't like them. Christian is as Christian does. Just like the 9-11 bombers were no less Muslim because they went against the peaceful parts of the Koran.

first it appears you have not the slightest idea of what you are talking about regards kids going to different schools, what was and is the bussing issue etc…...but thats for another tme. And your exageration regards being hunted down and hanged....I'll let that pass to fr now.


Reading your screed here, has it not occurred to you that huge strides have been made to address the issues the pastor rightfully marched for ( IF he did march; he was in the marines and navy from 61-66 and then studied at Howard for 4 years…...so lets just let the dogs sicked on him thing drop for now)
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Anyway the point is, instead of lauding what they have here to fore overcome and making this an issue of inspiration, he has taken the low road it appears and made this an issue of desperation? Get it?

Anyone can whip up a crowd by feeding them negativity and desperation, who have that predilection already, making himself their savior under the right circumstances and he found them. ....but, imho, its pathetic. Oh and I am well aware not every one of his sermons were all negative in nature, but it appears those that he did give, where real barn burners.


And I won’t even bother with the HIV and drug peddling bullshit , you can explain those yourself if you like…

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Obama has never whipped the crowds by feeding them hatred and pessimism; instead, he has always promoted hope and change. The injustice here is: It is wrong to put the blame on him for the personal believes his pastor holds.

Obama has a historic mission of telling Americans that "Imperator has no clothes!"

Nope, a Christians is whoever calls themself a Christian.

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"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Have you watched Barack's speech on race in America that has just finished? Wow! It was grand and I urge all of you to listen to that speech before saying anything else about him.

Nope, you could call yourself an elephant, but then that wouldn't make you an elephant now would it?

Do some research about how the Christians came to be called Christians. It was long before there was the organized religion of Christianity. Followers of Jesus Christ were first called Christians in the greek city of Antioch, because the followers of Jesus manifested the character and works of Jesus in their daily lives.

Man has made Christianity into a religion, but really Christianity is about a personal relationship with the person of Jesus Christ that ultimately transforms the individual into the image of Christ. It is not a transformation that takes place in a instant, but over time as the individual gives more and more of themselves to Christ.

I could not call Obama a Christian because I do not know enough about him, and neither does anyone else here. His life must demonstrate the character of Jesus before I will call him a Christian. Words are cheap, actions that demonstrate character must be the yardstick by which a real Christian is measured.

I personnally would not have subjected myself and family for one minute to the hate and bigotry that the Rev. Wright demonstrated. This is one of those things that demonstrates character, and Obama failed this little test as far as I am concerned.

Barack Obama's church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas.!!
Rev. Wright gave it a new title, "A Fresh View of the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi Struggle."
There is no doubt that by reprinting this Hamas manifesto on the church bulletin, Wright supports this terror group.
The article
1.defended terrorism as LEGITIMATE resistance,
2.refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist
3.compared the terror group's official charter - which calls for the murder of Jews - to America's Declaration of Independence!!
The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright . Google Obama's church, pastor's page, July 22, 2007)
Marzook, the author of this article, is a known terrorist and created an extensive Hamas network in the United States

Hamas is responsible for multiple acts of terrorist including suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian populations. It is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S.

Esraeli security officials have expressed concern about Robert Malley, AN ADVISER TO OBAMA, who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.


Barack Obama cannot just say "I didn't" know on this. And a "great speech" won't do either.
Obama is compromised on so many different levels that he simply cannot be trusted. His middle name should no longer be ignored. (well, didn't he say "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people"? If you don't believe this, Google the statement. Didn't he say in Audacity of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims?")

Barack Hussein Abdul al-Majid al-Obama for President of The United States! LOL
Un-freakin'-believable!!!


Go to:
http://tucc.org/upload/tuccbulletin_july22.pdf
Scroll down to page 10

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Actually, there were no notable racial issues in this campaign, until we all got to hear Obama's 20 year pastor sound off.

So what you're stating, is that since Barack Obama has been a 20 year member of a racist, separatist church. A church that the majority of Americans would not even think of belonging too, that "we all" should sign up for Barack Obama's educational program on how to "heal" the countries racial issues. WOW, what a novel thought! For racial class 101: How about, not going to a racist church?

What I object to most: Is a 40 minute speech regarding racial issues in this country, of which some believe to be a magnificent speech, coming from a man who has been a 20 year member of a racist, hate filled, separatist church.

Oprah Winfrey left this same church in 1990, because she thought the views of this church were too extreme. Oprah has better judgement than Obama, & she wasn't even running for President of the United States.

A reminder of what Obama has sworn to live and uphold in every aspect of his life. HWR: Obamination by Erik Rush , 02/21/07

Mr Erik Rush, a columnist, viewed the website of Senator Barack Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ,Trinity United Church of Christ
and viewed the Black Value System to which the church subscribes - to which ALL members must affix their signature in allegiance.

After Mr Rush's article appeared (21 Feb 07), Trinity United Church of Christ quickly changed the "About" page of their website (from this Trinity United Church of Christ
on 15 Mar 07 to this Trinity United Church of Christ
on 29 Mar 07) to NOT include the sworn dedication to upholding the Black Value System, hiding that strong and important cornerstone of the church, the pastor, and the members from the public.

Why? Is Trinity United Church of Christ ashamed of what they believe? Do they intend to keep their firm and practiced belief in The Black Value System a secret from the public and future members? Is that why The Black Value System was removed from their website? Because it is a radical, separatist, bigoted, exclusionary, and a wholly racist belief system?

08 Oct 07 | FoxNews: As Obama Talks Religion, Questions Surround His Controversial Pastor FOXNews.com - As Obama Talks Religion, Questions Surround His Controversial Pastor - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Barack Obama has put his religion back into the headlines, trumpeting the power and salvation of faith and asking a church audience in South Carolina to help him become “an instrument of God” and join him in creating “a Kingdom right here on Earth."

30 Apr 07 | NYT: A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us...=1&oref=slogin
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“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.” - Rev Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, Pastor, Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago IL

Interesting to know Barack Obama will continue to receive regular personal and spiritual instruction and counseling from Pastor Wright during his campaign to be President, but, admits he will publicly distance himself from the man he admires, reveres, and is entranced by; in effect, deliberately hiding his relationship with the controversial and radical Pastor Wright from the public. Would "an instrument of God” committed to creating “a Kingdom right here on Earth" deny his brother? Obama will... to further his personal and political agenda. Should he win the Presidential race, how would Obama treat an ally of America? How would Obama treat an enemy of America? If he is willing to treat a cherished personal friend of at least thirty-five years in this abysmal way, publicly disavowing their relationship while maintaining it in secret, it boggles the imagination to wonder about the treatment of which he is capable of those that are not his personal friends (or friends of America).

Why? This is completely contrary to Obama's beliefs. Is Obama ashamed of his on-going relationship with a known racist radical? Evidently.

Barack Hussein Obama

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Never forget:
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