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Old 07-12-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Nope wasn't me.

I still say that anyone that actually thinks becuase Obama has Muslim relatives that means anything is stark raving mad and needs help.

We are all related to one extent or another and even the most remote human is your 28th cousin give or take a few. Ignorance and superstition are not valid argument points.
Obama's father-in-law was Muslim and I believe his real father was Muslim. This makes Obama an apostate......a non-practicing Muslim.

The fact that Obama is a born Muslim this is extremely important to Islamic Fundimentalists. They feel that a symbolic victory is just as important as an actual victory.

If Obama wins the Muslim streets will errupt and they will claim it as a great victory against Bush and America. This is why so many groups like Hamas openly supports Obama as POTUS.
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Old 07-12-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Nope wasn't me.

I still say that anyone that actually thinks becuase Obama has Muslim relatives that means anything is stark raving mad and needs help.

We are all related to one extent or another and even the most remote human is your 28th cousin give or take a few. Ignorance and superstition are not valid argument points.
But they're often all the right has.

I thought it was 32, given the world's population, but you're right, what's a few degrees of consanguinity among friends.

It its strange to think though, that an Ituri bushman or Inuit is my cousin, 32degrees removed. How many people would that involve tracing through?
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Old 07-12-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Obama's father-in-law was Muslim and I believe his real father was Muslim. This makes Obama an apostate......a non-practicing Muslim.

The fact that Obama is a born Muslim this is extremely important to Islamic Fundimentalists. They feel that a symbolic victory is just as important as an actual victory.

If Obama wins the Muslim streets will errupt and they will claim it as a great victory against Bush and America. This is why so many groups like Hamas openly supports Obama as POTUS.
Doesn't that also mean he is under sentence of death to them?

And this is so ridiculous, really, I'm beginning to believe the rumor that some of the conservatives on this board are actually liberal moles, trying make the right look worse than it actually is. (As if that was possible)
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Old 07-13-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Obama's father-in-law was Muslim and I believe his real father was Muslim. This makes Obama an apostate......a non-practicing Muslim.

The fact that Obama is a born Muslim this is extremely important to Islamic Fundimentalists. They feel that a symbolic victory is just as important as an actual victory.

If Obama wins the Muslim streets will errupt and they will claim it as a great victory against Bush and America. This is why so many groups like Hamas openly supports Obama as POTUS.
And how does it hurt that some Muslims see Obama as a good choice.
The KKK see McCain as a good choice but I don't hold that against him.

What we need is change in this nation becuase the last 8 years have sucked and a vote for a McCain is just a vote for 4 more years of the Bush policy that has made the last 8 years suck.
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Old 07-13-2008
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And how does it hurt that some Muslims see Obama as a good choice.
The KKK see McCain as a good choice but I don't hold that against him.

What we need is change in this nation becuase the last 8 years have sucked and a vote for a McCain is just a vote for 4 more years of the Bush policy that has made the last 8 years suck.
The problem is that the libs in this country are too fucking stupid to accept anything but "change". What they should want is "positive change", and Obama offers little in that regard.

Libs, generally speaking, are unable to look past sound-bytes and catch-phrases, though, so "change" is all they're worried about...
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Obama's father-in-law was Muslim and I believe his real father was Muslim. This makes Obama an apostate......a non-practicing Muslim.
I was unaware that Religion was genetic.

I know Jews who used to be Catholics. I know Catholics who used to be Muslims.

And what Obama's father in law has to do with anything is beyond me...
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Old 07-13-2008
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The problem is that the libs in this country are too fucking stupid to accept anything but "change". What they should want is "positive change", and Obama offers little in that regard.

Libs, generally speaking, are unable to look past sound-bytes and catch-phrases, though, so "change" is all they're worried about...
And what the stupid righties want is a land of heartless rich people that treat everyone else like their own person slaves.
They are so afraid of any change they would rather eat their young rather then stop destroying the nation they are leaving them.
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And what the stupid righties want is a land of heartless rich people that treat everyone else like their own person slaves.
They are so afraid of any change they would rather eat their young rather then stop destroying the nation they are leaving them.
Too fucking funny.

Why would they want that? Why would those on the right want to "destroy the nation"? I see this idiocy-laden comment made time and time again, directed at both sides, and not a single person has ever been able to back it up.

So, now that you've said it, too, let's see if you can back up that idiocy-laden statement...
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Old 07-13-2008
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And what the stupid righties want is a land of heartless rich people that treat everyone else like their own person slaves.
They are so afraid of any change they would rather eat their young rather then stop destroying the nation they are leaving them.
The righties have stood by, and even cheered, as their hero in the White House has tried to bankrupt this nation while waging a war he should never have tried to get us into.
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The righties have stood by, and even cheered, as their hero in the White House has tried to bankrupt this nation while waging a war he should never have tried to get us into.
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Too fucking funny.

Why would they want that? Why would those on the right want to "destroy the nation"? I see this idiocy-laden comment made time and time again, directed at both sides, and not a single person has ever been able to back it up.

So, now that you've said it, too, let's see if you can back up that idiocy-laden statement...
Its easy to back up my assertion.
All you have to look at is the 9 trillion dollar debt. Who cares that all the
right wing baby boomers will be long dead before the debt they have accrued can be paid back.
The right have sold the children of this nation up the proverbial creek so they could spend like no other group of Americans in history.
You say the liberals are the problem but its the right wing that has spent us into a multigenerational debt.

The right isnt conservative its insane they think by spending us into slavery they are accomplishing something.

The only thing stupid around here is anyone that thinks that the Iraq war did anything positive for this nation.
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Its easy to back up my assertion.
All you have to look at is the 9 trillion dollar debt. Who cares that all the
right wing baby boomers will be long dead before the debt they have accrued can be paid back.
The right have sold the children of this nation up the proverbial creek so they could spend like no other group of Americans in history.
You say the liberals are the problem but its the right wing that has spent us into a multigenerational debt.

The right isnt conservative its insane they think by spending us into slavery they are accomplishing something.

The only thing stupid around here is anyone that thinks that the Iraq war did anything positive for this nation.
You say so much, and yet so little.

I didn't ask you for examples of how you think they're doing it, I asked you why you think they want to.

You've notably failed to respond.

Kudos.

And I didn't say that liberals were to blame. I just said they're stupid...
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Old 07-13-2008
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Why they want to is easy.

Control, power and wealth, the people in charge of the right want a nation
that is controlled and owned by them and anyone that is not one of them becomes
nothing more then a slave to their interests. It is an ambition that is as old as mental illness
and the right has it in spades.

Now why don't you say something rather then just spewing vitriol and ignorance.
So far All I have read from you is sophistry and insults.
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Old 07-13-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

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Why they want to is easy.

Control, power and wealth, the people in charge of the right want a nation
that is controlled and owned by them and anyone that is not one of them becomes
nothing more then a slave to their interests. It is an ambition that is as old as mental illness
and the right has it in spades.

Now why don't you say something rather then just spewing vitriol and ignorance.
So far All I have read from you is sophistry and insults.
Interesting. I'm on the right and that does not reflect my wants in the least. In the future, don't presume to speak for me. Thanks.
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Old 07-13-2008
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Re: Thoughts on Obama

I don't care what you say you want I care what your vote does to this nation.

Just becuase you are blind to the evils of your own party doesn't mean they don't exist.
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