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Old 11-21-2007
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Bush takes money from war profiteers and starts wars for them to be able to loot untold BILLIONS from taxpayers--I think thats a little more scandalous then some RW groups sending Ron Paul a few pennies in comparison
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Bush takes money from war profiteers and starts wars for them to be able to loot untold BILLIONS from taxpayers--I think thats a little more scandalous then some RW groups sending Ron Paul a few pennies in comparison
That's an entirely different topic.

We're talking about Ron Paul, not George Bush.

Why is it that all of you Ron Paul supporters are incapable of discussing something that could be perceived as negative about him without bringing up Bush?

I'll be the first to admit that, between Bush and Paul, I think Paul would win. But Bush isn't running, so it's a non-issue...
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Old 11-22-2007
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Ron Paul's campaign put out this statement:"If individuals with views anathema to Dr.Paul's have donated money to his campaign, then they have wasted their money".

This guy brought attention to himself and should not reflect on Paul in the least. With record online donations and support and with his fortunes in the polls swinging upwards, this is a non-issue.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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No, because no matter what Paul's supporters think, it has no effect on Ron Paul. If Osama bin Laden started sending him money, that would not necessarily alter Paul's ideology. Sending money to someone does not attach your own brainwaves and ideas to the money, transferring them to the receiver. To suggest that something that absurd happens is totally irrational.
Like I said Slon - Ron Paul is supported by Nazi like influences, if that doesn't bother you - then go ahead and vote for him.
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Old 11-22-2007
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

In this case, the "White Supremists" group and Ron Paul are both idiots politically.

First, the White Supremists Group. For a $500 donotion to the candidate, you have given every one of his opponents political ammo to use against him. This is beyond stupid, especially given the "Politically Correct" climate that has taken hold socially in this country (religious issues, immigration issues, etc). You have basically screwed Ron Paul over $500. The only way this is smart is if you gave Ron Paul $500 and were actually supporting one of the other candidates.

Now for Ron Paul, how consistent is it that you advocate equal freedoms for all while accepting campaign donations from groups who advocate racial segregation. And all this for $500. Give the $500 back. The donating organizations should understand why you need to do this politically.

Personally I am not a supporter or donator or the donatee. I do recognize the right, however, the donate to the person you choose and to accept donations within the confines of the law. There are just some things that are just politically stupid and this is one of them.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Like I said Slon - Ron Paul is supported by Nazi like influences, if that doesn't bother you - then go ahead and vote for him.
thats a guilt by association attitude
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Like I said Slon - Ron Paul is supported by Nazi like influences, if that doesn't bother you - then go ahead and vote for him.
Hey, guess what? Slon knows what you said. That is why (s)he refuted your silly little argument. Now, instead of simply repeating yourself, and making it look as thought it is a new argument, why don't you try doing something new?

Are you really telling me that NO OTHER candidate has ever recieved money from an unseemly fellow?
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

every single campaign has donations from controversial fellows and it means nothing--its just cheap mudslinging to point it out
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

I agree, since Ron Paul is very principled and has the only record that no one can attack, people have to drum up this stuff.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

The hypocrisy is thick. All these people who voted for Bush gleefully overlook the fact that plenty of bad people gave him money. What? Do you think just because he claims a hold on moral values that that's the only kind of supporter he ever got? Gimme a break.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Like I said Slon - Ron Paul is supported by Nazi like influences, if that doesn't bother you - then go ahead and vote for him.
No, it doesn't bother me. Does it bother you? If so, why?
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Ron Paul's campaign simply stated that if individuals have views anathema to Ron Paul's that they are wasting their money. Nuff said.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

If Ron Paul accepts money from white supremists, it will go a long way in convincing me that he accepted it because he agrees with their views...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Hey, guess what? Slon knows what you said. That is why (s)he refuted your silly little argument. Now, instead of simply repeating yourself, and making it look as thought it is a new argument, why don't you try doing something new?

Are you really telling me that NO OTHER candidate has ever recieved money from an unseemly fellow?
actually, I totally agree with the Geek:
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In this case, the "White Supremists" group and Ron Paul are both idiots politically.

First, the White Supremists Group. For a $500 donotion to the candidate, you have given every one of his opponents political ammo to use against him. This is beyond stupid, especially given the "Politically Correct" climate that has taken hold socially in this country (religious issues, immigration issues, etc). You have basically screwed Ron Paul over $500. The only way this is smart is if you gave Ron Paul $500 and were actually supporting one of the other candidates.

Now for Ron Paul, how consistent is it that you advocate equal freedoms for all while accepting campaign donations from groups who advocate racial segregation. And all this for $500. Give the $500 back. The donating organizations should understand why you need to do this politically.

Personally I am not a supporter or donator or the donatee. I do recognize the right, however, the donate to the person you choose and to accept donations within the confines of the law. There are just some things that are just politically stupid and this is one of them.
but if you insist on being stupid, vote for Ron Paul.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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The hypocrisy is thick. All these people who voted for Bush gleefully overlook the fact that plenty of bad people gave him money. What? Do you think just because he claims a hold on moral values that that's the only kind of supporter he ever got? Gimme a break.
If a Nazi group gave money to Bush or any republican - it would above the fold news in all the papers and headline news on CBS, NBC, CNN etc. - unless you can prove that nazi like groups have donated to republican candidates - your argument is baseless.
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